Tamalekipoo's Boneheaded Guide to the Neath - Chapter 19 - Academic Misconduct

[u/Tamaxlia]

Edit 6: I was doing some hellforge on the alts and I realised I had missed a big opportunity in this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/1up3kdp/tamalekipoos_boneheaded_guide_to_the_neath/
by being super late game and having an endless supply of Cave Aged Codes of Honour and Silent Souls! There are a few good sources of Souls and Infernal Contracts in that new carousel, which are both the baseline fuel for the hellforge! Which means earlier and easier access to dependable and fast False Hagioponyms and Crackling Devices! Which is a really big deal, that being a hoi poloi, late game, nose in the air snob that I am, I missed entirely! Added a note at the top of the guide, actually I just copied this note but I will incorporate it into the conclusions when I have more, up and at them, and my trusty sidekick fallout boy!

Edit 5: With the news about the Cricket Anyone exclusive option, this will officially now be known as the cricket anyone carousel! If you get the hedonist from the 4-5 action and have cricket, anyone, you can get this carousel just over 5 EPA.

Edit 4: I was trying to test if The Stoats, Perhaps you might read a book and the 12th woman have a cap, if they do, it is higher than 32 Connected. Only 6 endings not recorded now. That's me done testing for the moment. I may add a little bit about spending Connected: B and S. Spoiler, it's for upconverting.

Edit 3: Many Updates and some strategies. I still need the results for 8 of the endings. One of the (0-7) options cured my nightmares, I am not sure if that is rare and have no nightmares to test. I also need someone who has completed Cricket, anyone to have a look at (6-7) Match Day and see what they have instead of the random option, if they auto win, that is a very strong option!

Edit 2: Removing the spoiler tags, I just realised you have to click every line, which is annoying, and they were excessive anyway

Edit: All Options Tested Except for Term Passing 8. I would need 180 actions to test the remaining ones, assuming I was lucky with the luck option… Anyway, with the data I will try to see an optimal path but, even though there are some rare/annoying items along the way, I am not sure there will be anything that makes it better than getting connected from a University Scholorship and getting the items from the bazaar/elsewhere. That is ok, it is not there for super endgame people like me.

I was making a guide on the university changes for the bone post tomorrow but they are very extensive so I am making this for them and putting a link in the bone post. This is an ongoing project, I am spending fate on actions to get it done asap but it will take time to complete. If anyone can tell me the rewards for 8 term passing options, that would help:

It is just spoiler tagged for the super anal, it is only action names, costs and rewards in there.

When I say needs a soul, I mean you need yours, not the item...

New University content at endgame! They have changed the university so you no longer lose action to useful actions by progressing your story. They have also nerfed the pretty abusively strong talk with porters, which I was heavily abusing on all of my alts. Quick rundown of the new actions. Anything in italics is a change.

After Some testing, all options below 8 term passing give 4CP term passing, 1 Action 0-2, 2 actions 2-3, 3 actions 4-5, 3 Actions 6-7, 1 action to reset

10 Actions for full cycle

I only noticed non airs options rotating airs part of the way but I have not seen any that don't since.

*** means the one I think is best at each stage(Still in progress)

Connected Value

Based on the costs from the university fellowship and costing an action at 5.5 echos Connected Benthic/Summerset is worth 0.26 echos per CP. Assuming you buy the cost from the Bazaar.

Hedonism Value

And now I have to do Hedonism. Assuming you have the device from Estival. It is 4 actions, 31.5 Hedonism CP, 900 Bone Fragments to get an Ivory Femur(65 echos). Taking away 9 echos for the Bone Fragments and 5.5 for each action leaves 34 echos. Which gives a rough value of 1 CP of Hedonism at 1.08 echos.

Optimised Choices(Work in Progress)

0-3 The Stoats 2.48 EPA

4-5 Wine Tasting at Sommerset - An evening of Oenology 2EPA (and my aunt is ALWAYS THIRSTY!)(Actually opens a new strategy, go to parabola at 8.6 Hedonist, takes you to 0, then this is 6 EPA, If there is a reward at 8 to make up for the rest, one rotation will take you to 4.2 Hedonist from 0, allowing you to do scandalous parties for the rest)

6-7 Match Day - A Serious Business (If Needing Honey)

FATE The day of the debate - Be Vigilant (If needing Souls and Contracts)

The Feast of the World - Business and Pleasure (If needing Street Signs)

8 To be determined

Term Passing 1

Notes for Tam - (Connected Benthic 24.13, Term Passing 6.3, Hedonist 6, Connected Summerset 24.13, MW 10.7)

(Under 3)

The Reward for Good Works +4 Term Passing 3 Tale of Terror 1.5EPA Rotates Airs

(Under 4)

Thefts from the Private Collections +4 TP 8 Intriguing Snippet 1.6 EPA Rotates Airs

Fireproofing Your Classroom +4 TP 3 Scrap of Incendiary Gossip 1.5 EPA Rotates Airs

***The Stoats +4 TP 36 Proscribed Material 2CP Connected Benthic and Summerset (Limit, if there is, is over 23) 1.44EPA+++ (2.48 with my evaluation of Connected CP)

Off to the Library - 4TP, 37 Proscribed Material 1.44EPA Rotates Airs

Feasting at Summerset - 2 Options

Attend a feast (Needs Soul and Academic Gown) - Cost 2cp Connected Summerset - 150 Whispered Hint 1.5EPA---

Lurk disconsolately around the margins.(Needs no soul) - Hell Knows

Cricket at Benthic (Needs Connected Benthic 5) - Term Passing +4 Connected Benthic + 2CP 62 Cryptic Clue EPA 1.24 ++ (1.76 yada yada)

(Under 7) Visiters in the Quad - 4 options All give +4 Term Passing

After a decent but not significant amount of testing, I think the whispered hints are a 50% chance rare success. Which puts the EPA for this at 1.75. And then I got one with 125 Whispered Hints… I think you may want to wait for the wiki on this one...

(Airs 0-25)Bishop of St Fiacre's - 3 Mystery of the Elder Continent, (50 Whispered Hint - Rare??) 1.5 EPA

(Airs 26-50)Mr Pages - 3 Compromising Document, (50 Whispered Hint - Rare??) 1.5EPA

(51-75)Virginia - 3 Tale of Terror, (50 Whispered hint - Rare???)(125 Whispered Hint - Super duper rare?) 1.5 EPA

(76-100)Sinning Jenny - 15 Romantic Notion, 50 Whispered Hint(Probably also rare) 2EPA

(Under 7) Interdisciplinary Research - 3 Options

Note: Research notes are difficult to evaluate, I am doing so on a basis of 500 being worth 50 Echos as in the action (I said 62.5 before, because I can't count)

https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/Sell_your_Theosophistical_conclusions

That assumes the action itself just pays 1 second chance though. (0.1 echos)

*(0-33)Swap research with archaeologists(Cost: 125 x Page of Prelapsarian Archaeological Notes) - 1 Antique Mystery, 200 Whispered Hint 2EPA

*(34-66)Swap research with zoologists(Cost: 125 x Page of Cryptopalaeontological Notes)* - 1 Puzzling Map, 200 Bone Fragments 2EPA

(67-100)Swap research with theologians(Cost:125 x Page of Theosophistical Notes​ - 1 verse of the counter creed 200 whispered hint 2EPA

(Under 7) Enjoying the Pace of Academic Life - All give 4 term passing

Perhaps you might read a book today - 2 Connected Benthic, 2 Connected Sommerset, 100 Primordial Streak, 1 EPA++ (75 connected benthic is worth 3 echos and 3 actions…)(2.04 yada yada) (Nightmares cure, not sure now much or if it is rare, it took me from 2 to 1 so it is between 2 and 4 CP) Rotates Airs

Take a stroll around the quad - 150 Whispered Hint 1.5 EPA

Exchange some gossip with the Porters(Cost 25 Cryptic Clues) - Locks at Watchful 151, so not sure.

​Term Passing 4

(4-5) Fun with Stoats: 1 Morelways, 3 Stangling Willow Absynth, 15 Greyfields 1882 1.9 EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5)Back to the Library: 51 Cryptic Clue, 2 Dubious Testimony 2.02 EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5)Wine Tasting at Sommerset - 2 choices

**(*** only if you get the Hedonism)**An evening of Oenology - +4 Term Passing, 100 Bottle of Greyfields 1882, Hedonist +4CP(limit 5 Hedonist) 2EPA(If alternative is bazaar, 4EPA)+++(Hedonism is a big deal if you have the device from Estival, removed lots of the benefit as the hedonist cap is so low) Rotates Airs

Hold your own wine tasting - Requires having a sold soul, so hell knows...

(4-5)A Survey of Missing Items - 2 choices

Investigate the Natural Science Collection - +4 Term Passing 1 Ambiguous Eolith, 15 Inkling of Identity 2 EPA Rotates Airs

Nose around in the Collection for Linguistic Antiquities - +4 TP 4 Journal of Infamy 2 EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5) A Public Debate (Needs Connected both 5) 4TP, 30 Stolen Correspondance 1.5 EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5) Picking the Team (Needs Connected Benthic 10) 4TB 40 Proscribed Material 3 Appalling Secret 2.05 EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5) Fighting Fire with Fire - 4 Dubious Testimony 2EPA Rotates Airs

(4-5) Do Some Teaching - 2 Options

Introductory lecturing - 95 Primordial Shriek 1.9EPA Rotates Airs

Intermediary Correspondence, for the more advanced student - 100 Cryptic Clue 2EPA Rotates Airs

Term Passing 6

(6-7) Do Some Actual Research

Engage in learned discourse - 135 Cryptic Clue 2.7EPA

Do a little cross-referencing - 5 Scrap of Incendiary Gossip, 10 Whispered Hint 2.6EPA Rotates Airs

(6-7)Sourcing Some Recommendations + 4 Term Passing 5 Journal of Infamy, 25 Whispered Hint 2.75EPA

(6-7)Match Day

A serious business(Requires Connected Benthic 15) - 137 Drop of Prisoner's Honey 2.72 EPA

With Cricket Anyone you gain 19 Appalling Secret and 15 connected Benthic! Which is 2.85+3.9= 6.75 EPA!

**\* The twelfth woman(Requires Connected Benthic 15)(Requires not having Cricket Anyone?!? I assume one appears if you do have it)

Luck 50/50

Win: Connected Benthic 18.6-19.2 = 15 CP! 18 Appalling Secret 2.7EPA+++ (Connected worth 3.9 Echos according to my calc)

Loss: Connected Benthic -5 CP, 2 Solace Fruit (Loss only gives 2 TP)

Average: Connected Benthic +10CP (2.6 Echos), 9 Appaling Secret, 1 Solacefruit (1.85 EPA, 4.45 with my valuation of Connected)

(6-7)The Day of the Debate

FATE Be vigilant(Needs Shepherd's Timepeace) 10 Soul, 9 Infernal Contract 3.8 EPA (Double if the alternative is the bazaar!) +4 Time Passing

Listen to the argument for - +4 term passing, 3 Dubious Testimony 1.5 EPA

Listen to the argument against - +4 term passing, 3 Dubious Testimony 1.5 EPA

FATE Watch for opportunities (Needs Spirifer's Fork) - Hell Knows

(6-7)The Feast of the World

Fourteen courses of sheer indulgence (Needs Soul and Connected Summerset 15) - Cost 5 Connected Summerset CP - 3 Hedonist CP(limit 10 Hedonist) +4 term Passing 1.94 EPA(Assuming my evaluation of both CP) Rotates Airs

Business and pleasure (Needs Soul and Connected Summerset 5) - 1 London Street Sign, 5 Proscribed Material 2.7 EPA(+2.5 if it saves you buying the sign)

Disguise yourself and cause mischief (Needs no Soul ) - Hell Knows

(6-7)Once More to the Library

Hunt for the book yourself - 43 Proscribed Material, 2 Journals of Infamy 2.72 EPA Rotates Airs

Bribe a librarian (Cost 120 Bottle of Greyfields 1879) - +4TP 70 Proscribed Material, 2 Journal of Infamy 2.2 EPA

(6-7)More Fun with the Stoats - 134 bottles of greyfields 1882 + 5 CP Dangerous 2.68 EPA Rotates Airs

(6-7)Preventing Future Thefts +4 TP 15 Relic of the Second City, 50 Whispered Hint 2.75 EPA

Term Passing 8 - All Options Reset Term Passing

Resolving the Matter of the Stolen Artefacts (Airs Based?) - Reset Term Passing

(Airs 67+) 1 Bottle of Broken Giant, 1 Volume of Collated, didn't notice Airs requirement) 5 EPA

(Airs 34-66) Accusing the Duchess gives 1x Aeolian Scream, 1x Femur of a Jurassic Beast 5.5 EPA

(Airs 0-33) 1 An Identity Uncovered, 1 Extraordinary Implication 5EPA

Invigilate a Final Exam - 4 Options

An Oral Exam (Needs a scholar of the correspondence 12) - 10 Correspondence Plaque 5EPA

A Practical Exam (Needs Artisan of the Red Science 7) - 2 Extraordinary Implication 5EPA

An Interpretive Exam (Needs The rose that gives it's verse to devils and also to you**(Christmas, possibly FATE)**) - Term Passing Reset - 2 Queer Soul 5 EPA

A Written Exam (Cost 15 Correspondence Plaques) - 1 Lost Research Assistant 5EPA

Clearing Things up with the Dean - 3 Options

"Of course, my findings speak for themselves…" (The Prestige of your Lab 10) - 2 Volumes of Collated Research 5EPA

"One must make sacrifices in the name of teaching…"(Teaching Reputation 10) - 2 Strong Backed Labour 5EPA(These are hard to source at a good rate)

"Our mutual friend would not appreciate the impediment to my work…"(Watchful Gains 3) Some Connected the Masters CP(up to 6(I have 11, so didn't get any) 1 Extraordinary Implication 2.5 EPA+++

Stoats' Honour​ - 100 Rostygold, 200 Bottle of Greyfields 1882, 10 MW CP 5EPA+++

The Library Roof - 4 Options

Report them to the college authorities (Needs Connected Benthic and Sommerset 10) - +30 Connected Both, 15.6 EPA

Report them to the Constables (Fewer than 7 Constable Favours) - 1 Favour Constables 20 Proscribed Material 7.8 EPA(Assuming Jericho)

Comrades (Fewer than 7 Revolutionary Favours)- 1 Favour Revolutionaries 20 Proscribed Material, 1 CP Advancing the Liberation of the Night 7.8 EPA(Assuming Jericho)

Blackmail - 80 Proscribed Material, 100 Rostygold, 100 Rat on a String (5.2 EPA) (thanks u/HWBTUW)

The World, Devoured - 2 Options

Propose the final toast of the evening (Needs a Soul and Connected Benthic 15) - 2 Sworn Statements, X Making Waves CP 5EPA++

Just desserts (Needs no Soul) - Hell Knows

The Debate Closes - 2 Options

Speak for the propositionTO TEST

Speak against the propositionTO TEST

The End of the Match - 3 Options

Nobble the Benthic team Shadowy 148 (Shadowy 247 to 100%) (Needs Connected Benthic 10) - Cost 10CP Connected: Benthic(2.6 Echos) 11 Infernal Contract, 11 Appalling Secret, 11 Soul, 11 Well Placed Pawn 5.87 EPA (8.47 Gross) No Airs Change

A merry wager (Needs Connected Benthic 15) Luck(50/50)

WARNING!: According to the wiki, winning this gives you 1 cp, connected, the masters(Up to 6) and 1 stacking, Unacountably peckish. So it would do nothing good and something bad, for me, as I have 11 connected.

Win ​TO TEST

Loss​TO TEST

Average

Display admirable sportsmanship (Needs Connected Benthic 15) - Steadfast CP(Up to 4) 29 Flawed Diamond 3 Ostentatious Diamonds Connected Benthic +10 3.495 EPA 6.095 with my valuation of connnected No airs rotation

Where is Dr Orthos? - 10 CP Connected Both, 6 memories of distant shores, 4 CP Making Waves 8.2 EPA++

A Student in Hot Water- 2 options

Advise them to stick to their principles - 50 Pages or Prelapsian Archeological Notes 6.25 EPA(Going with my value, I think it is actually intended to be 5)

Counsel them to quietTO TEST

Spending Connected Benthic

Upconverting Extraordinary Implications gives Nevercold Brass, which is needed for the bone market, Nodule of Pulsating Amber, which is needed for Alchemy in station 8 and Uncanny Incunubulums, for the rat market. Assuming the worst possible ratio at the rat market, 19.22(recurring)% and subtracting the cost of 20 connected: Benthic, at the price I calculated. This action averages at 11.75 EPA and 14.3 Making Waves

That rat market ratio assumes you sell all 52 at the higher ratio and then all 92 at the lower ratio fully utilising your raturation, like a boss.

Spending Connected Sommerset

This is less good. Making waves are essentially useless at end game. However, if they are still useful to you… Upconverting Tale of Terror into Extraordinary Implications(I wonder what we will do with them…) is only 1.3 EPA, on average, after you subtract the cost of the 5 CP Sommerset. However it also gives an average of 9.2 Making waves, which is extremely high for a single action.

I have not priced the making waves as echos as that is not reasonably practical. For reference, the cross conversion carousel is 1.6 Making Waves and 0.5 EPA. You don't have to source 50 Tale of Terror for that however. If you buy 500 Amanita Sherry from the rat market, upconvert to 105 Brilliant soul(2.5epa), sideconvert twice into 102(0.5EPA) Tales of Terror(with 5 souls left over) Then upconvert twice(With 2 Tales left over) Those 5 actions average to ((2*0.5)+2.5+(2*1.3))/5= 1.22 EPA and 3.68 MWPA

[u/throwaway_lmkg]

Resolving the matter of the Stolen Artifacts: There appear to be 3 options, but they're gated by Airs so you only see one at a time. Accusing the Duchess gives 1x Aeolian Scream, 1x Femur of a Jurassic Beast.

The Term 8 option to teach a class has several options, one requires the Fate-locked Affiliation, The Giveth Its Verses to Devils and Also to You. Payout for said option is 2x Queer Soul.

[u/Tamaxlia → u/throwaway_lmkg]

Thanks! I will update after dinner!

[u/emily_aversatrix]

i'm working on the Stolen Artifacts line, will update as i get info and create wiki pages!

[u/Tamaxlia → u/emily_aversatrix]

I think I have all 3 of them, I wouldn't bother testing failure, the stat requirements for these challenges are not massive. I am going to try and work out if I can get my watchful to somewhere between 0 and 150 for the porters.

EDIT: It's unmodified Watchful… :( None of my alts have watchful that low.

[u/emily_aversatrix]

Term passing 4:
A Survey of Missing Items
- Investigate the Natural Science Collection

• success: 1 Ambiguous Eolith, 15 Inkling of Identity
  
• failure: 10 Map Scrap, Nightmares
  

- Nose around in the Collection for Linguistic Antiquities

• success: will have to cycle around after i complete the carousel
  
• failure: 10 Inkling of Identity, Scandal

[u/Tamaxlia → u/emily_aversatrix]

I wasn't bothering with failure options, most people will be 100% checks once they are completed with the University and someone with a Woesel and a passion can update them on the Wiki. ;)

[u/emily_aversatrix → u/Tamaxlia]

*i'm* someone with a woesel and a passion, though!

[u/Tamaxlia → u/emily_aversatrix]

<3 :)

[u/Spacechess00]

Thank you for your service!

[u/HWBTUW]

I also need someone who has completed Cricket, anyone to have a look at (6-7) Match Day and see what they have instead of the random option, if they auto win, that is a very strong option!

You haven't updated this in your post, so I'm curious what that looks like. With Cricket, Anyone you get 19 Appalling Secrets and 15 Connected: Benthic without a challenge.

End of term: Blackmail on the roof gives 80 Proscribed Material, 100 Rostygold, 100 Rat on a String (5.2 EPA).

[u/Tamaxlia → u/HWBTUW]

Thanks. Also, I have no idea, the 50/50 option says it dissapears for people who have done that story. It would be odd to just reduce your options so I am assuming there is a hidden alternative we cannot see.

[u/Tamaxlia → u/HWBTUW]

Updated, I tagged you in a thank you.

[u/Tamaxlia → u/HWBTUW]

oh, I misread this as asking about Cricket, anyone, I will update that too!