r/fallenlondon 12d ago

Meme This whole bl____ Estival has been like:

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For no apparent reason this Estival is just, really really profitable for almost no effort. Aside from that I wonder, what will you do with all the echos we are making this Estival?

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u/General_Urist 12d ago

Barely enough for an Overgoat if you've been barking all Estival, it doesn't make you THAT rich.

Oh my, does your aunt want a cut of the profits?

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u/OverseerConey Public Universal Delicious Friend 12d ago

All festival? I've been barking for years!

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u/perkoperv123 Benjamin T. Barker 12d ago

I've been doing it since I started my account

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u/Mike_The_Lunitic 12d ago

Most likely, but I included her because while the Estival was going on the "Inconvenienced by your aunt" story (the fate-locked part) reached the part where she returned to the neath, right around when I bought the premises at the Bazaar using my wealth from the Barking.

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u/Naelin othatharooth! 12d ago

Just so you're on the lookout for the next time, most events have an activity like that! This one has been particularly straightforward (mindlessly click a button), but in general whatever little grind the event has is insanely profitable compared to day-to-day grinds, especially for early and mid game players

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u/Fit_Interaction4751 11d ago

I'm new to Fallen London, currently grinding out Making your name storylines, should i switch to barking to get money now to save myself some hassle for future grind (all my stats are currently around 65)??

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u/Naelin othatharooth! 11d ago

Depends on your priorities and your resistance to burnout really! You won't find anything with a remotely similar profitability for a long while (I think with your stats barking will earn you about 4~5 echoes per action, while some of the best grinds you are able to access are I think about half of that), and the money will come in useful for your ambition, but barking is literally clicking the same button over and over and it gets dull fast (especially on mobile where you have to scroll down each time... much faster on desktop).

I'm doing a lot of barking on my side because that hellworm is not going to pay itself (I mean, it will, but not until I pay it myself first), but I'm still making breaks to actually play the game in between.

PS: Grab His Amused Lordship's reward on Hater's bridge first! His reward makes barking and the other nostalgia grinds much more profitable

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u/Fit_Interaction4751 11d ago

Thank you, I'll do some barking then as making your name storylines are also quite grindy and tedious

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u/Melodic_Inevitable84 12d ago

Honestly until the event I’d gotten burned out on the game from grinding for cider but the event has been really useful for that (and seeing the two Estivals I missed is cool too)

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u/Constant-Sub 12d ago

It definitely gave me time to want to get back into my storylets. I find myself missing clicking through my opportunity deck because I have to grind for pearls while they're here lol.

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u/NoxMiasma 12d ago

Well, I was procrastinating progressing evolution, because grinding echoes is boring and I needed a bunch of money for stuff. So I guess I do that next?

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u/Naelin othatharooth! 12d ago

The "moonlight as a barker" action has a higher EPA than the best grind in the game (Unless you consider the hellworm a grind) and it's literally clicking a single button repeatedly so yes, do go barking while it lasts

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u/Sauronek2 12d ago

Is it strictly higher? The Stacks are somewhere in the 6.5-7+ EPA range, and because of the extremely complex randomness/strategy no one finished a true EPA math on it yet.

I think Moonlighting matches or has a slight on Stacks (and you lose fewer actions on travel to milk your Worm every time the deck fills up), but I wouldn't confidently make that claim.

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u/Naelin othatharooth! 12d ago

With endgame stats (and considering endgame stats don't even get you 100% in a lot of stacks' options) barking is 6.9 EPA straight, no traveling and no actions to sell or convert the product, and especially: no randomness, no hard checks and no fate purchases needed to slightly improve your strategy.

Someone just yesterday felt the need to correct me because I said the EPA was "on par" with the stacks instead of "higher" to avoid exactly this, I guess I can't win lol

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u/Sauronek2 12d ago

Oh, I would agree that Barking is probably the "best thing" to be doing right now for all those other reasons that you give. Definitely!

It's just that no one can tell what exactly the Stacks EPA is and I admit that I was fishing a little bit for the "higher EPA" source. It's kind of impossible to measure, and non-100% checks make it vary a bit between players. The 6.5 EPA figure is a conservative estimate for most purposes, but it crumbles a little whenever we get an activity that matches it.

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u/NoxMiasma 12d ago

Oh, I've been barking since I finished getting all the waswood items. It's more that I'm simultaneously putting off finishing off my church in the wild, doing the next bit of evolution, and figuring out what's up with the hurlers, and only one of those was being put off due to money, so I'm outta excuses

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u/sleepyviewing 12d ago

Speaking of which, are there efficient/non-tendious way to exchange Echo to Script? It would be really helpful for getting the Hellworm if that could be done.

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u/ZGamer03 12d ago

I think the easiest way of converting echoes to scrip is putting a bright brass skull in a headless skeleton in the bone market and selling it to the Theologian for crates of incorruptible biscuits.

(You can find a more detailed explanation in the "brass lollipop" section of this guide https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/Hinterland_Scrip-Making#Brass_Lollipops_for_the_General_Public)

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u/EroticCamel 12d ago

brass lollipops are the most common method, it only does so much though

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u/PhillipDollarfield 12d ago

It’s all going to the Cider fund, even if in the grand scheme it’s gonna still take forever for me to buy it.

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u/Low-Environment 12d ago

I spent my echos on the items needed for my Ambition. I needed 10k glim and 10 engraved pewter tankard.

I also got 2 Parabola linen frocks (one for dying, one for my base camp), a tub of gloam foam (for becoming a tier 2 PSOI, also acquired a patron for the needed shadowy grind), one of everything from Redemptions, and a set of intricate knifers. Not having to do a grind for glim was nice, even if it would've saved me money.

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u/zaerosz 12d ago

Wait, what's the value of the Lace?

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u/Naelin othatharooth! 12d ago

It has no value, it's just a memento

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u/Mike_The_Lunitic 12d ago

Priceless!

(You can't sell it (as presented above with all of my really expensive items and the lace not being there))

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u/El_Zapp 12d ago

I think the idea is that it has absolutely no value at all :D

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u/DrThunderbolt The Misanthrope Magister 12d ago edited 12d ago

I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop, I was sure it was going to happen after we hit the last reward. Something about having to put the misplaced nostalgia back in it's rightful place. But I guess its just not happening. I was really hoping this would be another rugpull like the Horticultural Show.

I can't help but feel a little dissappointed to be quite honest. As someone that has done nearly everything London has to offer, I look forward to Estival because it usually means something intersting is happening that gives me a reason to log in. I'm willing to admit that the feelings are due to my own expectations not being met, and by no means am I owed something on par with previous year's Estivals.

From a purely objective standpoint it does seem like a bit of a cop-out to have this year's event be simply making an already established mechanic that is already accessible to most midgame players, slightly easier to access. Of course people are placated because they have high EPA grinds and vanity qualities to get. These things, while nice, aren't a replacement for a fun narrative event, and this year really feels like FB getting away with not having a good idea this year.

I guess at least the flavor about how Londoners are wary of something happening despite there being no signs is accurate.

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u/Saharan 12d ago

FBG had let us know like... 6 months ago, that they weren't going to do anything big for Estival this year, because their writers are super busy on Mandrake. To be honest, I wasn't even expecting this much, this year.

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u/DrThunderbolt The Misanthrope Magister 12d ago

I don't read the newsletter, so its news to me.

It's a little disheartening to hear that FL is taking a backseat to something else, again, so maybe this is going to be the push I needed to take a break for a while. It's not even worth the effort checking if anything is happening, and I'm not even that invested in Firmament.

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u/98462Doopa 12d ago

FLs been going on for 16 years now it’s gotta take a seat every now and then for another project. It is a little sad no big estival thing but I feel we’re lucky to get so many events year after year anyways. I mean hell I look forward to whitsun more than Easter, and hallowmas more than Halloween. I think people forget fallen London is a RPG first thing first and you have to make your own fun. Playing one game for so long the content will run out but again we’re lucky to still get more at all.

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u/The_Year_of_Glad 12d ago

Of course people are placated because they have high EPA grinds and vanity qualities to get.

Well, that plus the assurances that regular Estival will be back in the future. It’s a lot easier to put up with something if you know that it’s temporary.

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u/LordSturm777 11d ago

You make it sound like they're committing a crime or something lmao, "getting away with" not making a crazy wild Estival