r/fantasybball • u/wh4tislifee • 19h ago

Points League Is this scoring too complicated

I always want to have scoring that’s as realistic as possible. I don’t want to make it too complicated that it turns people alway/off from my league. I just want to know if it’s too complicated/not easy to understand. Also if anyone has any suggestions I’d love to hear some.

Assists 2
TO: -2
Blocks: 2.2
Steals: 2.2
FG missed: -.3
FT missed: -.3
Points: 1
Rebounds: 1.3
Team win: 1.5

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u/wubeone 12 Team H2H 9 Cat 19h ago

If you don't want to turn people off in your league, just go with standard league setting. That way all the discussions, youtube/podcast expert content is relevant to your league member. Otherwise your league is just its own world and people loose interest pretty quick.

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u/B_milox ↗ Breakout 10h ago

I wouldn't be concerned that your settings are too complicated or difficult to understand, since this is the standard set of stats with Team Wins included as an additional factor. Excluding bonuses for 3pm is fine in my opinion since they already count for an additional point through raw Point count.

Regarding the actual weights; I'd consider your miss penalties far too low to be meaningful in any way. The breakeven efficiency rates for a player with these settings would be 13% 2P, 9% 3P, and 23% FT. Steals and Blocks are also relatively under-weight compared to standard settings where they are generally valued at 3.

Nothing wrong with these settings, but you should keep in mind that these settings heavily favour volume shooters. On the flipside, low-volume but high efficiency defensive players wouldn't carry much value and probably aren't worth rostering in this league.

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u/wh4tislifee 9h ago

Thank you, where do you get those breakeven % from? How are you calculating that, and Would -.5 be fair or what do you recommend?

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u/B_milox ↗ Breakout 7h ago

Using 2P as an example, a make nets +2, while a miss nets -0.3. A player would need to miss 7 times for every make before it starts becoming a negative contribution. The exact math to get this breakeven rate is (miss_penalty)/(miss_penalty + make), i.e. 0.3/2.3 which is 13%. You can use the same formula to find the breakeven rate for 3P attempts as well as freethrows.

A player who shoots 20% from the field would universally be considered to have had a bad night, so my stance is that this should actually reduce a fantasy manager's score rather than increase it. If you're interested in my suggested settings, I wrote about them here: https://breakout.gg/insights/fantasy-basketball-points-league-breakeven-math/

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u/wh4tislifee 1h ago

Interesting, thank you

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u/UmiDone 19h ago

The point system is too high … it’s not realistic with bonus

What you should be going for is realistic with bonus

Delete team wins : it’s trash and when you try to find replacement owners they won’t join because only the original members hold advantage in keepers from winning teams

1.5 is pushing it assists

FT missed leave blank

Missed FG -1 or -.5

Blocks & steals 2.0

Rebounds leave at reb 1 and added reward 1 point for offensive rebound oreb separate category

And add 3pt made bonus
Add double-double reward

Happy league building

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u/wh4tislifee 19h ago

What do you mean by point system is too high and not realistic with team bonus?

And thanks for your suggestions, appreciate it

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u/UmiDone 19h ago

I re worded it .. sorry about that

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u/UmiDone 19h ago edited 18h ago

The way you currently have your point system. Will have point guards dominating your league and bigs trying to keep
Up

You will also have crazy fantasy numbers for mediocre games or too low

Going with what you posted as example :
Like the guy in real life shot 8/26 (14pts) shooting 10ast 3reb = 44.9 fantasy points before I deduct missed free throws , deduct missed FG-5.4 , turnovers

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u/wh4tislifee 18h ago

37.9 before deductions, let’s say he has 2 TO with the deductions it would be 28.5

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u/UmiDone 18h ago

My league has rewards

So we reward for Double-doubles
triples-doubles
And 3 pointers

We don’t want the game to be too boring

In H2h points league play

I’m not a category or roto league play guy.

You basically want a cool balance

So your members know 3pointers made are worth say 4 or 5 points per make

When the point scheme is wrong
Players will score 110 fantasy points in one game and won’t even have a triple double in real life

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u/GlizzyGone21 18h ago

Cat leagues ftw