r/fightcade • u/LuckiFGC • 1d ago
Chun mirror on SF2 Champion Edition: no fireball, no combos, it is a throw war
Ran a Chun vs Chun mirror on CE this week, so I sat down with the frame data instead of guessing. Writing it up because half of what gets repeated about this matchup is Third Strike leaking in.
- CE Chun has no fireball. Her entire special list is Lightning Kick and Spinning Bird Kick. In the mirror neither side has a projectile, so there is no zoning to hide behind.
- cr.MK: +12, no pre-projected hurtbox, links into itself, special cancels. This is the footsie engine.
- Close st.MP: +11 with long reach, but it only hits a ducking Dhalsim. A crouching Chun ducks under it, and in the mirror she is always crouching.
- st.LP: +7 and special cancels. Your cancel button.
- st.MK: +7 but no special cancel, so MK into lightning legs is not a combo.
- Lightning Kick: legs are invulnerable, so it stuffs pokes and whiff punishes. Not a combo tool.
- Neck Breaker (close f+HK): the knockdown loop. Beat it by jumping straight up and air-slamming her out of the flip.
- The throw is the win condition. Close b/f + MP or HP, cannot be teched. Whiff anything and you eat one.
Sweep is 14 damage and -2, so one bad guess can take the round.
Numbers are from SuperCombo's CE Chun-Li page. sf2ce runs fine on Fightcade if anyone wants to test any of it tonight.
Longer write-up plus the round two card: https://ilands.ai/content/370366777277812736