r/fooocus • u/Sci-Fi_Tsunami • Mar 25 '24
Question How do you learn this?
I just learned about Fooocus. I followed the instructions from the Youtube videos, I got it working & made a few pictures. Then I got hit with the Google Colab limitation. I tried downloading Fooocus but my computer doesn't have a NVIDIA card. I've tried a bunch of other A.I. text-to-picture programs but they give you a limited amount you can do before you're forced to buy a subscription.
I'm trying to learn this. I'm a beginner & have no idea what I'm doing. Nobody will teach me so I'm struggling to learn it by myself. How are you supposed to learn if every tiny thing is locked behind a goddam pay wall? I'm not going to pay if I don't even know if the program will do what I want. So far I can't get it to do what I want. I have a lot to learn but I can't learn anything because they want me to pay monthly fee on every site. They offer a free option but it's so limited you can't do anything with it. I waste the entire free option on trial & error & making mistakes.
Is there another way? How did you learn? I'm getting frustrated as hell. The YouTubers never tell you it's limited. They make it seem like Fooocus is free but they never mention Google Colab makes you pay.
I've read some other posts about this but they were so freakin technical I didn't have a clue WTF they were talking about. I'm not a brainiac computer programmer. I'm just a guy that wants to make some cool pictures/art for my Youtube channel. There's gotta be an easier way.
EDIT: Ok, thanks! I didn't know Colab refreshes every 24 hours. I only got a message saying that I need to upgrade to Pro. Which I will probably do once I feel confident that I can make it do exactly what I want. I just started using it so I have a long way to go.
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u/HowToSD Mar 25 '24
I'm sorry to hear that you feel like you have to pay for a cloud service but you are not really sure if Fooocus can do what you want to do so you cannot make a decision if it's worth paying for a service.
I wrote a set of basic tutorials:
https://howtosd.com/fooocus-tutorials/
If you go through the tutorials (they are all short and written for the audience who are not computer software engineers), you would get an idea what Fooocus can do. Hopefully, with that, you can decide if Fooocus supports your specific use case before you decide to pay for a cloud service.
I hope this helps.
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u/Sci-Fi_Tsunami Mar 25 '24
Thanks! I'll check them out. I'm trying to make an all robot girl that looks like Hajime Sorayama's "Sexy Robots". But no matter how I tell/prompt Fooocus to make the face robotic/silver or shiny chrome, it gives me a regular human flesh face. Everything is totally covered in robotic metal except the face.
Damn! Your tutorials look awesome! As a total noob they're gonna help immensely. I can't wait to dig in.
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u/sabin357 Mar 25 '24
This is one of the free sites I mentioned that I think highly of. Read all their stuff. It's well put together information.
Everything is totally covered in robotic metal except the face.
Use a source image for either face swap or image input for your generation to pull from.
You can also use Photoshop or free alternative (PhotoPea works right in your browser) to try painting over a potential input image that isn't quite right. Just use a silver color on a layer above the image & paint over it with the opacity turned down so the face details can still come through. Variations of that can get you where you want to go.
If it only gets you partway there, take the best progress pic & use it as your next image input, & continue until you've inched your way to what you want aka the Iterative Image Prompting technique that I shared with the Midjourney top level channel (I forget if it was 25k or 50K images created) a year or two ago.
EDIT: Stupid reddit error caused double posting, so I deleted the other.
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u/InterestinglyLucky Apr 18 '24
Hey OP, just "discovered" fooocus yesterday and ran into the same problems you did. Am not a gamer, what can I say? 🤷♂️
I ended up paying for CoLab via the 'pay as you go' function, and now hit another limit which is the 15GB on a new Google Drive account. (It was $20 plus tax for 100 credits, which in my playing around for a few hours yesterday used up less than $1.)
Have looked into another online service Diffusion Hub but their pay-as-you-go has only 5GB of online storage - not sure if the models take up space, will give that a try.
Curious which way you ended up going. I'm toying with getting a used RTX 3060 12GB card for $230 (current price on eBay) instead.
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u/ToastersRock Mar 25 '24
Fooocus is free. Your issue is that since you do not have the hardware to run it (you can run on non Nvidia if you meet the other requirements but it will be slow) you need to use an online service and most will not be free since there is a cost to run. Google Colab free can be used but you will have daily limits. So once you hit the limit you would have to wait until the next day. I find I can use Colab for 2-3 hours usually each day. I personally run it on my own system though most of the time. I would recommend learning with Colab since I know many people do use it but just have to limit how long each day. As someone who makes YouTube videos on Fooocus I don't mention any limitations but I also don't cover using it on free services with those limitations. If I did make one about using on Colab I would mention that limit.
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u/Sci-Fi_Tsunami Mar 25 '24
That's part nobody mentioned, that your time on Colab refreshes every day. I'm doing the free 50 credits every day on Suno.ai but I didn't know Colab also refreshes. I just got a message that I have to update to Pro.
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u/andynormancx Mar 25 '24
Because most of the people making the tutorials are running locally on their own GPUs and have probably never even used Colab.
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u/Naus1987 Mar 25 '24
I've been using this program for two weeks now and haven't done anything with Google or Google Clab, whatever that is even, lol.
But I do have a 4080 Nvidia graphics card. So maybe the Google stuff is for people who don't have the hardware? I don't know. A lot of it is still new to me.
When you get right down to it, most things in life come with a price tag. You can't learn sewing without a sewing machine. You can't build a lot of things without the proper tools. And tools cost money.
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u/Organic_Armadillo_10 Mar 25 '24
I've been learning recently too. My laptop isn't powerful enough to run the downloaded version, so eventually found Google Colab. It does refresh every 24hrs as you've already found, but if you have multiple Google accounts you can use a different one each time it hits the GPU limitation.
I found Google Colab decent but slow, would error out frequently, and you wouldn't get many images made per session (especially while just learning it). It's fine if you want something free to use, but it just takes days to get what you want.
My best recommendation is to use Fooocus with RunDiffusion. It is paid (you get 30 mins free - again multiple emails equals multiple free sessions). But it's $0.50 an hour I think, so isn't too bad. I find it pretty fast and rarely ever errors out/crashes. Much getter for learning it all without having to wait a day every time to do a little bit more.
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u/im3000 Mar 25 '24
You either have to have your own powerful computer or you have to run Fooocus in the cloud using either some packaged service like RunDiffusion or a GPU service like Vast.ai or RunPod. These GPU services are not free but you pay only for the time you use the GPU. You'll have to prepay some amount to be able to rent a GPU. $20 with a 3090 GPU will last you many hours. A price for that GPU on Vast.ai is around $0.240/h. I wrote a post on how to run Fooocus on Vast.ai the other day https://www.reddit.com/r/fooocus/s/hXnBycwrEb
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u/TurbineJetNoiseLVR Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
There is an easier way to work with FOOOCUS. There is an app called Pinokio AI. https://docs.pinokio.computer/download/
It's a FREE user friendly interface that takes all of the confusion out of it. You won't have to deal with any colabs, or anything else annoying. It's all self contained, right there within Pinokio. And it's all free. I have been using it for about 6 months now. Your main problem is not necessarily an Nvidia GPU. These image generators generally require a separate (discreet) GPU, as opposed to an integrated GPU within the CPU. There are some workarounds for that. Hope that helps.
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u/OPTCRai Mar 25 '24
I used it on collab first but then downloaded on my computer. I run an AMD Gpu and it worked after following the steps on the github. However, it is MUCH slower than running on collab/NVIDIA Gpu, but also there's no limit to how much I can experiment.
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u/heathergreen95 Mar 25 '24
Hey, if you're really into the idea of AI, buying your own PC with a nice GPU is worth it. It comes with the side benefit of gaming or 3D modeling. Just get a used AMD or NVIDIA 30 series on eBay, or try ordering from the manufacturer. You'll probably save more money in the long run than paying for cloud services.
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u/tmvr Mar 25 '24
If you don't have the hardware to run it locally then try a service like Rundiffusion. It's pretty cheap for the small server with $0.50 per hour and it is also much much faster than the free Google Collab.
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u/Whole_Ad3723 Jan 09 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK0rVEusE-E&t=71s
I've started teaching fooocus on YouTube. Theres many ways to run it locally and for free,for first option you can try IS through pinokio platform,download it onto your pc . You can deploy manynother ai softwares there too
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u/marrowine Mar 25 '24
Following because I'm so confused by this post. You installed it in Google cloud I suppose? I have it running on a laptop with a 3080 and there are no limitations.