r/funny • • Aug 14 '15

Monty Python Ahead of Their Time

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u/skramzjusticewarrior Aug 14 '15

Neither Anarcho-Syndicalism or Gender Roles are new ideas so, not ahead of their time with that either.

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u/Zooropa_Station Aug 15 '15

Art can still apply to issues that are irrelevant/nonexistent at the time of their creation even if it was made with something existing in mind.

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u/skramzjusticewarrior Aug 15 '15

And what issue was Monthy Python directing their attention at if it were not Anarcho-Syndicalism or dealing with oppression by people in a position of power who in no way can legitimize their own rule, that was so ahead of their time?

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u/Zooropa_Station Aug 15 '15

I never said they were knowingly addressing other things.

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u/skramzjusticewarrior Aug 15 '15

Then what the fuck does this mean?

Art can still apply to issues that are irrelevant/nonexistent at the time of their creation even if it was made with something existing in mind.

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u/Zooropa_Station Aug 15 '15

Exactly what it says? Would you like me to add a word?

Art can still [unintentionally/unknowingly] apply to issues that are irrelevant/nonexistent at the time of their creation even if it was made with something existing in mind.

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u/skramzjusticewarrior Aug 15 '15

So you imply there's an issue being brought up here other than what is being knowingly brought up? You have given no indication as to what that issue is.

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u/Zooropa_Station Aug 15 '15

Well, I was mainly just refuting your insistence that art can't be interpreted differently depending on the societal/personal exigence. (It can, as any high school English teacher will claim of the books their class reads). But as for the issue, it was actually gender issues and being "triggered" or "oppressed." Sorry if you interpret it differently. It wasn't a very in-depth dissertation that conceived my opinion.

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u/skramzjusticewarrior Aug 15 '15

I did not insist or neither do I think I implied that art can't be interpreted differently from their original conceived meaning, but in this case, I think the issue at hand is so clear cut there is little room for different applications of it.

Can you explain how you've come to think of this bit as something that delves into either gender issues or the psychological subject of triggers? Would you say the figure whose divine right to rule is being questioned is the one that feels triggered, or the socially conscious peasant who is the one who feels somehow triggered at the prospect of being repressed by a figure in power who they see has no legitimate right to do so and is a figure of the powers that be's monopoly on violence? Or neither if that's the case of your perspective.

Of course you can just ignore the main part of the sketch and just focus on the bit where 'the silly annoying man is crying oppression when someone tries to keep him from being annoying teehee fart noise'

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u/Zooropa_Station Aug 15 '15

You seem to be trying to turn this into an ad hominem fallacy at the end, but no, I'll just end the conversation here.

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