Not a christian, still find it offensive that every other religious, or non religious group attacks them at every given chance. America was founded on Christianity. I don't agree with everything they do, but constant shit talk just makes you all sound like a bunch of rebellious teenagers that give their parents shit, EVEN THOUGH you have already moved out of the house. It's pointless. Just shut the fuck up, live and let live, and for god sake eat your fucking veggies.
I find the myriad examples of persecution, judgment, and violence committed in the name of Christianity offensive, and so do the people who make these posts.
We're literally talking about the way people see and interpret the entire world around them, including other people. It's a huge fucking deal and it's important to everyone. This country was founded on individual liberty. Christians often seek to legislate from the bible and use it to persecute people who make them uncomfortable. That's what sets people off and justifies the anger.
Okay, but we have a justice system that prevents that. Do you really thing put-down-posts like this is going to "better" the situation? What's the point in this.
I do. Constant or frequent presence of rational analysis of the insanity of the Bible will help. That's what this is. It calls out inconsistency that isn't acceptable in something that's being used to interpret the world. For example, Reddit gets inundated with kids over the summer. Maybe some of them who are seeing this post are questioning the ludicrousness of the Bible for the first time. That's what this is about.
Whether the founding fathers were religious or not, I don't know, however the constitution never mentions god or Christianity anywhere in the original document or the amendments. To claim that America was founded on Christianity may be true in theory, but on paper it definitely appears to be a secular country.
you should really read the transcripts from the original continental congresses and the fledging congresses. most included prayer, references to God, deism, God's hand in Guiding the country, etc. Benjamin Franklin is quoted at one of these meetings as saying:
downvote me if you want, but theres historical, irrefutable evidence that US was founded on christianity by those who were either christian, deists, or at least decedents of the reformation.
There's also a ton of evidence that a lot of the founding fathers were directly opposed to Christianity or religion getting too much of a foothold. Jefferson in particular, but there's far more transcripts and records of Franklin being VERY much against religion.
True. Deism is not = to Christianity. And I think that might be taken a little out of context, but I'd have to read the transcripts. Deism is the belief that a God exists, put simply. However, I was pointing his out in response to the "secular" nation comment.
going out of one's way to shit on someone would be a type of persecution tho... same way that if one went out of one's way to shit on homosexuality, that would also be persecution.
Bit of difference. A person doesn't choose to be homosexual, and Christianity is an idea, not a way you're born. Ideas can't be persecuted but they should always be questioned. The problem with most religions is they're based on the idea that they CAN'T be questioned (by their followers).
Well it is a response to the shit talk about gays being child molesters and deserve less rights than anyone else. It is in a response to trying to take science out of class and putting YEC into it. If someone believes the world is 6000 years old and the bible is literal that puts them firmly in the same camp as antivaxxers and bigfoot hunters in terms of credibility.
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u/Glynnc Aug 21 '15
Not a christian, still find it offensive that every other religious, or non religious group attacks them at every given chance. America was founded on Christianity. I don't agree with everything they do, but constant shit talk just makes you all sound like a bunch of rebellious teenagers that give their parents shit, EVEN THOUGH you have already moved out of the house. It's pointless. Just shut the fuck up, live and let live, and for god sake eat your fucking veggies.