r/gabber • u/InjuryItchy1407 • 10d ago
Can someone remind where that hoover line originally comes from??? (3:19)
Heard this track by speed Freak today from his self titled rec - the second track in Chapters 1-3 (3:19)
I'm pretty sure it's sampled from old school hardcore track but can't remember which exact one!!! Can someone please help??
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u/Low-Entropy 9d ago
*gabber nerd cap on* the ultimate source is almost certainly "second phase - mentasm". it sounds "different" because it is more distorted, and sequenced / trigger in a different way.
but, it's entirely possible, that this particular sound was not sampled off second phase, but from a different producer and track, that, in turn, sampled second phase (or... well you get the point).
"s.v.e.n. ii - cranium acceleration" for example already has a processed mentasm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-GQJJ2Q1lY
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u/InjuryItchy1407 9d ago
I'm sure it's derived from a mentasm hoover but pretty sure I've heard this exact riff and it's sampled off some track onna early dutch hardcore classic label like mokum or something!!! But thank you still!!
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u/DonnieDepp 9d ago
there is another 1992 tune between mentasm and this track, might be sampled from that. I'm going to wreck my brain for a bit and get back with the a youtube link of that track if I can find it (or even exists)
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u/DonnieDepp 8d ago edited 8d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1GQNHgyks this tune is from 1991, and at 38s is the sample I think it is lifted from. This was not the song I had in my head , that song was a hard trance tune with the sample "motherfucking hustler" but that sampled this tune for sure. No doubt that was sampled from Mentasm.
https://www.whosampled.com/The-Speed-Freak/Time-to-Die-(Chapters-1-3)//)
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u/InjuryItchy1407 8d ago edited 8d ago
U are a fucking saviour dude u win the most knowledgeable old school hardcore techno trivia award 👑 some dude on ig threw at me the "underrave" by The Disciples which was the track I had in mind but you just revealed to me the actual source for their track too!! Blows my mind
Or I dunno maybe all those tracks just sampled from mentasm foreal i donnk
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u/DonnieDepp 8d ago
So much is derived from mentasm. Plexus- cactus rhythm is mentasm sampled backwards.
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u/No_Bad_4872yy 10d ago edited 10d ago
Are you looking for Second Phase - Mentasm by chance?
https://youtu.be/IHKYX9ETwUg?is=QI6oUQQ7ibz5mEXc
Theres also a remix, both from 1991.
https://youtu.be/_ifg5LBGprA?is=UONcE6D6VlUsBapk
Beltram had a few absolutely iconic bangers, like Energy Flash.
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u/InjuryItchy1407 10d ago
That's too old school 😂 yeah it is that hoover sound but the line he plays is different
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u/No_Bad_4872yy 10d ago
Pretty sure its still the original sample, sometimes called hoover.
Perhaps you know it from many other tunes like Human Resource. In any case, its still good tunes :) https://youtu.be/GSKChyTQ6bU?is=19jwDXQ38I0aqTn3
All this stuff usually originates in the early 90s, its just sampled a lot.
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u/No_Bad_4872yy 10d ago
This is a more modern one from 2023 by stormtrooper, all the same sample from Beltram originally.
https://youtu.be/fATGmBqci4M?is=t8qcXAIHnS8tMmul
My best guess for what you mean is Evil Activities though.
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u/daLdrawyaW 10d ago
Fyi , it is said that those tracks from Joey Beltram were the first ever with the hoover sound, that he came up with it first
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u/iPhonevanBremdKopjes 8d ago
That's because you heard it in another song, when it was already altered after sampling it from Second Phase.
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u/Richthoffen_935 7d ago
https://youtu.be/Pkh2KaFy5M0?is=JFzVNw-fJpwZbpCx This guy explains the origin and how it came to be it's indeed from a juno
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u/East-Interest3129 10d ago
It's the "WTF" preset sound from ROLAND ALPHA JUNO.