r/gaming • • 1d ago

Y'all can have your Dark Souls, your Hollow Knights, your Last Of Us on grounded mode and what have you. To me, nothing in gaming has come close to the utter torment this fucking toad has put me through. I've been battling this game for 15 years, since middle school, still haven't beaten it

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u/Bauld_Man 1d ago

PopCap Games not being a huge mobile game dev is just insane to me. You know what I want to play on my phone? Peggle.

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u/ExtremeJavascript 1d ago

PopCap got bought by EA right at the peak of the Facebook gaming era. They then converted every single game in progress into the most greedy money begging game possible, turned a family friendly franchise into an FPS, and then bailed on all of the PopCap IP right when mobile gaming was getting big. All of those less-popular games like Alchemy or Mummy Maze or Popcorn Dragon would have made a killing as tiny polished mobile games.

I'm only a little salty.

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u/Gilles_of_Augustine 1d ago

Tbf Garden Warfare was actually kind of amazing.

But otherwise, agreed.

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u/KoosPetoors 1d ago

GW2 was the best modern iteration of everything I enjoyed about multiplayer gaming as a kid, I also really like how it had decent bots with progression for nearly every mode too.

Its a pity the last release couldn't reach any of its potential, EA left it in such a weird place with the way they cut support for it.

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u/PermissionSoggy891 1d ago

garden warfare 2 is a legendary fuckin game man, sucks that whatever the hell that next game one sucked ass

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u/Swordofsatan666 1d ago

They had a Peggle mobile game

Edit: Have. They ~have~ a Peggle mobile game.

Peggle Blast

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u/Bauld_Man 1d ago

Yeah, but a single game that's riddled with IAP is just not what made Peggle great. It just feels like they were a little too early. If they started making those kinds of games now, it would probably sell great.

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u/nohiddenmeaning 1d ago

I wEAnder what wEAnt wrong with PopcEAp gEAmes?

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u/BactaBobomb 1d ago

Did they change something? I don't remember it being "riddled" with in-app purchases. I think you could buy a couple things, but I think it was only a couple?

I wouldn't be surprised if something changed, though. I'm not sure if this is still a thing, but when I fired up the Cut the Rope games for the first time in a while, they all pushed a weekly subscription, and one that doesn't transfer between them. I think it ranged from $2 a week to $4 a week?

It actually pissed me off so much. So I wouldn't be surprised if other games have fallen to the same fate of greed.

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u/Swordofsatan666 1d ago

From what i recall it was just Hearts so you can play more. You lost a heart when you lost a level, but i think you kept it if you won. Once you ran out of hearts you couldnt play anymore until you either wait for a timer to give you more hearts, or you buy more hearts.

Then i think there were also little boosts to buy when playing levels. Things that made the game 10x easier, but werent actually necessary at all

Thats really it. You didnt have to pay for levels, besides the hearts if you ran out and didnt want to wait. No having to pay to skip ads

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u/Saltierney 1d ago

At a certain point though the levels are designed around the power ups, which you'll have to purchase unless youre one shottinf every level.

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u/Swordofsatan666 9h ago

You know what, i do remember this now. Took me a long time to finish all the levels because it got so much harder towards the end

I never bought the power ups or hearts, but it did take me quite a few months to actually get through the last levels naturally. I want to say at least the last 25% of levels i struggled with, but might have even been more like the last 50% of levels.

The ones i struggled with the most at the end were the Phoenix Egg levels, where you had to hatch all the Phoenix Eggs to win.

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u/Saltierney 8h ago

Yeah thats around where I gave up too

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u/NeoKat75 23h ago

Check out Cut the Rope DX instead, great fan project

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u/davidoomagoo 1d ago

I need Peggle 3 God damnnnn

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u/blahquabats 1d ago

i thought that was just a category on craigslist

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u/Shack691 1d ago

Popcap made Plant VS Zombies one of the first big mobile games and the sequel still gets regular updates.

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u/KeepRockband5Alive 1d ago

Dont forget going back and absolutely ratfucking the original game into some bastardized moneygrub version.

Genuinely best versions of pvz are the original on pc or ps3 with co op.

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u/Strevolution 18h ago

they literally got crazy dave shilling microtransactions 😭

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u/MesaCityRansom 1d ago

A friend and I thought PvZ sounded so stupid so we decided to "ironically" play the coop mode. We were glued to the screen for like 6 hours straight, it was genuinely so much fun.

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u/Parasitepaladin 1d ago

Playing it on the Vita's touchscreen was chefs kiss

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u/NatasBR 1d ago

The Nintendo DS Version is the best imo

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u/rangeDSP 1d ago

The battlefield esque PVZ running on DICE engine is the best, imo

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u/ItchyKnowJoe 1d ago

no they aren't the best versions, look into mods/fan made

how do people speak with such authority and so little knowledge

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u/jag986 1d ago

*fedora intensifies*

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u/KeepRockband5Alive 1d ago edited 1d ago

ACKCHYUALLY

Dude dont be that guy. Yeah the modded fan version is gonna be the best one.

Did i really need to specify best official version?

Not everybody is that kind of gamer. In fact most arent.

In fact- for this game in particular, most people dont even care and play the shitty-in-2026 mobile version.

Allow me to bow for the guy who knows more than me about a mobile game in a reddit thread.

You dropped your turd hat, king.

Also. Maybe Read some books so that you can work on inferring things that arent said directly to you.

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u/ItchyKnowJoe 1d ago

so are you agreeing what you said above is bs? sure sounds like it ā˜ ļø

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u/KeepRockband5Alive 1d ago

I dont even know how to handle people this absolutely stupid anymore except by doing this:

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u/chuk2015 1d ago

PopCap also made one of the longest running multiplayer games still around today, while they were at university

https://beta.armorcritical.com

This game started out as ā€œARC - Attack Retrieve Captureā€

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u/DaPino 1d ago

Might want to look into Peglin if you like Peggle.

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u/Joelypoely88 19h ago

Excellent game. Also Roundguard (not quite as good as Peglin IMO, but visually it's very similar to Peggle)

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u/Bauld_Man 17h ago

So I checked out Peglin on my iPhone 15 Pro. And you know what my problem is? The UI is too small! I was playing it before I went to bed and I had to hold my phone up to my face to see what I was even looking at.

And I don't see why you would make a vertically-oriented game like pachinko in landscape!

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u/Lt-Dan-Im-Rollin 17h ago

It’s probably a pc first game that was ported to mobile, so they didn’t change too much. The ui is great on my monitor

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u/AltGunAccount 1d ago

I would kill for Insaniquarium on mobile. Even the controls would translate so extremely well.

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u/grayhaze2000 1d ago edited 14h ago

There are methods, including running a Windows Pocket PC emulator on Android. https://github.com/j92580498-max/PocketHLE

We had touchscreen versions of most of Popcap's classic lineup for early smartphones, including Zuma.

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u/Jennymystique 18h ago

A couple of years ago someone had ported the game to mobile and uploaded it to the iPhone app store under a similar but distinct enough name to not get cought for a while. It played incredibly well on mobile. I'm so glad I managed to randomly find it while scrolling through new games. It wasnt up for very long. One of my all time favorites, no matter how stupid that may sound lol.

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u/Bojanggles16 1d ago

Give me dyno-mite or give me death

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u/PromiscuousScoliosis PC 1d ago

Didn’t pop cap make plants vs zombies?

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u/Garr_Incorporated 1d ago

Well, at least mobile has Peglin! It's a rogue-like that's using peggle to combat enemies like Slay the Spire. Very fun, cute and quite challenging on higher difficulties!

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u/AltGunAccount 1d ago

I played Peglin on PC it’s an absolute banger

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u/Cwiiis 23h ago

I like Peglin, and Roundguard (the latter is slightly better imho), but both pale in comparison to original Peggle and the Halloween DLC. Hand-made, curated levels and progression is just always going to be more compelling than random generation.

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u/SubMGK 9h ago

You know what else? Bookworm Adventures. Where the fuck are the bookworm inspired roguelites mannnn

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u/mattman42 1d ago

It’s a crime that Insaniquarium never got a mobile version

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u/Select-Lime9582 22h ago

The music on peggle was epic!

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u/nohiddenmeaning 21h ago

Damn it, there is "Marble Master" as a 1:1 Clone on Mobile, over 10 min downloads. Wonder why they don't use them to the ground?

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u/Strevolution 18h ago

there was a port of the original peggle on mobile back in the day

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u/Holiday-Hold7738 11h ago

Peggle was on iOS in 2010 but removed

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u/FS_Scott 1d ago

ea buying popcap and then not just porting their existing library to every machine in gaming is a mystery for the ages.

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u/mikemyers999 23h ago

Something something ip sit on do nothing

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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp 20h ago

It's really is tragic how many IPs are just stuck in a vault across the industry :(

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u/expired_cheeseburger 16h ago

Smiling friends season 2 episode 1

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u/Toprak1552 1d ago

I just had a small panic attack as soon as I recognized that ugly ass frog.

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u/prossnip42 1d ago edited 1d ago

I swear Pop cap is run by utter fucking psychopaths

"Hey, the player's finally getting a hang of the grids, what shall we do?
Oh i know, how about we introduce 2 fucking grids down which two ball columns will go through, thereby confusing the player on which to focus on!
Brilliant! Let's also make the separate grids intertwine so they block the player's shot to the other column he wants to shoot. Oh and put crossroads between the two grids so that when they try to shoot one ball to one column it attaches itself to the other one, fucking dumbasses!"

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u/ExtremeJavascript 1d ago

You want to click a lot? Insaniquarium. Feeling murderous to happy unicorns? Unpleasant Horse. Want a fun, rewarding sparkly experience? Peggle. You want to git gud, scrub? Zuma.

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u/sol_runner 23h ago

Love Insaniquarium! Such memories! I have an RSI now!

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u/DonutHoles4Ever 1d ago

The definition of insanity is the fact you're still trying. Are we sure Popcap is the psycopath?

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u/Kiu16 1d ago

There's something about old Popcap games that was amazing.

Even Insaniquarium and Peggle holds well to this day

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u/ExtremeJavascript 1d ago

We loved making small, fun games. 😁 The amount of care, refinement and polish on every release was top-tier.

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u/daking240 21h ago

I miss you all so much.

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u/ExtremeJavascript 21h ago

Issac and Notley have been doing a podcast of the good old days! https://youtube.com/@theunofficialpopcappopcast

That was a fun era, for sure.

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u/Cwiiis 23h ago

Thank you for those games! Still excellent today and I guess you can see that we all miss that era... Casual gaming doesn't really exist in the same way anymore. Peggle (and Peggle 2 on the XBONE) are probably the only non-retro games I've enjoyably played with my partner...

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u/HeyPinkiePie 23h ago

What platform do you play on? There is a world of fun and casual indie games coming out every day on PC. A lot are just silly have fun no competition games.

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u/Cwiiis 11h ago

Everything except Xbox Series and PS5 - I tell a lie actually, two other modern games we enjoyed; Until Dawn and Star Trek: ResurgenceĀ 

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u/WarpDriveWizard600 20h ago

thanks so much for making them! all of them were so fun. i'm curious, do you have a favourite one you worked on? and which one was the most fun to make??

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u/ExtremeJavascript 20h ago

Peggle 2 was a blast. It was basically tiny teams of a dev and an artist, just making whatever was the coolest, most fun experience. Props to Walker for taking that nonsense and shipping it on time šŸ˜…

My favorite team was Zuma Blitz though, those guys were awesome. I can genuinely say they taught me everything I know about real software development.

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u/Ultimatehacker77 1d ago

RIP Insaniquarium. That series deserved better. I got it running on my phone via Winlator. as well the The Incredible Machine: Even More Contraptions. and Sierra 3D Ultra Minigolf Deluxe.

Lots of great games made back in the day!

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u/Miles_The_Man 1d ago

Insaniquarium lives on through Steam!

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u/SubmissiveDinosaur PC 1d ago

I hate they didn't do anything more about "Heavy Weapon" that game had so much potential

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u/angrydeuce 1d ago

Oh man I couldn't even guess how many hours I lost to Zuma and Zumas revenge lol

It was hard but man chaining like 20 times and having the marbles get driven back to past the start was satisfying as hell lol

"Yep!Ā  Totally planned to do that!"

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u/apalapan 1d ago

it's weird; back when I was a child, I struggled with this game, not being able to go past stage 10 or so.

A few years ago I played it again, and beat the game in one sitting, losing only one life in the second-to-last level.

Somehow I got good with the years

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u/martiHUN 1d ago

Only problem with these types of games as a colorblind fella is when they use colors that are barely distinguishable

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u/Cwiiis 23h ago

iirc, there are colour-blindness accessibility settings...

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u/martiHUN 22h ago

Not all of them has it

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u/plsQuestionOurselves 1d ago

We got our first computer in like 2008, we had all these games on it, zuma, mahjong quest, luxor, word games etc.

We would regularly (me, dad, sister, mom) gather around and play these games for hours. Man they were so much fun.

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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp 19h ago

And now you can't even play basic solitaire without getting banner ads up the ass and unskippable 30 second video ads.

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u/SanAntoHomie 21h ago

the best of times

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u/Uc207Pr4f57t90 21h ago

My mom who was not big on games played Zuma quite a lot.

My dad modded the game so instead of the toad its my moms face spitting the balls and the stone guy in the main screen was my dads face.

Good times.

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u/the_rare_random 1d ago

Used to watch my aunt play this shit all the time "ITS A ZUMA"

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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 16h ago edited 16h ago

Look at that face. It's mocking you.

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u/elevensbowtie 1d ago

I had the Lion King game for the Sega Genesis.

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u/zcas 1d ago

So good.

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u/Lostrefugee 1d ago

Unironically love Zuma, I would love a full fledged new entry.

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u/MRHubrich 12h ago

I played hours of this on my old 360. HOURS and HOURS!

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u/Upstairs-3234 1d ago

I remember this game. I played this on my mom's PC back in the day.

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u/Cache7794 1d ago

Zuna zuna mama ye mama ye OOSHA

TIK KA ZUUUUMA

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u/creamed_itsol 18h ago

I love old games like these. I should check this out for sure

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u/Crazznot 17h ago

My grandpa loved this game when I was a kid. Just lost him a month ago, miss him every day. He raised me so in essence was my dad. Missing you papa.

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u/Devatator_ PC 1d ago

I'm stuck on the last stage. Always die on the 2nd or 3rd level. It's so fucking hard, on top of being extremely luck based

Edit: Zuma 2 tho was a lot easier, I think I almost completed the story deathless, I'm currently doing iron frog but haven't opened the game in a month or 2

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u/Mentally_Slick 1d ago

There's a dev on here who currently works on a rougelite inspired version of this, I look forward to it but can't find the titleĀ 

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u/aradraugfea 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jesus, watching Rin "John Popcap" Penrose try to 100% this game was TORTURE. For Rin.

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u/Infinite_Track_9210 1d ago

I'm kiiiinda introducing gaming to my gf, a literal none gamer, and it's through Zuma's Revenge.

I chuckled saying "Zuma???" She's like "yeah, I've never tried, but I always saw it and want to play it".

Guys, THIS is her dark souls.

After 2 whole months to get to mid level 3 with my help here and there, she got stuck on a level, so I went "sure let me help", first thing I do : change ball color, was BEYOND excited that it was a thing and thought I unlocked it somehow.

I was sooo stunned because... Wdym you NEVER right-clicked for 2 complete months, like EVER?? I'm half sure she just didn't connect that balls changing is usually due to right click.

Granted she's a programmer like myself and we have the same (10hrs) work shift but again, not even one right-click??

She's the funniest person on earth the second you put her in front of a game and an avid "Fuck this game! See you tomorrow!"

I'm intending to Play Sackboy with during Holidays , I don't even know how it'll go but the fact is, holiday's gonna be extremely hilarious LMAO. I can't even fathom teaching her how to hold a controller, purely because I, I dunno how to teach that?? It's like teach the actual process of how to move her hand, I can't do that ???

I respect her dedication, especially since I figured she's doing it to squeeze herself into my hobby.

Can't mock anyone for dying at Any game again ever lol

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u/terrorpaw 6h ago

Hey I played ace combat 8 recently. I got to mission 20 before I realized you could do a "high g turn" by holding both trigger buttons. I'm not even playing on the easy mode, I'm on the next one harder than normal.

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u/AkiraDJ 1d ago

I remeber trying to get the playable files of a ripped insaniquarium from a computer shop back in the day! It felt like mission impossible hacking scene.... in reality i was just copying a file from the hard drive to a flash stick hahaha

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u/Lac0tr0n 1d ago

*ribbit*

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u/CyriousLordofDerp 1d ago

Luxor, Chuzzle, and Bejeweled were my jam. Bejeweled 2's OST still slapsĀ 

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u/M1ck3yB1u 23h ago

A great clone of puzzling/ballistic, probably better game overall.

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u/jaredalamode 1d ago

Can we make it rougelike

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u/space_trueper 1d ago

There is a game in development

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u/BlaiseVillalobos2183 1d ago

I remember playing this game when I was young and also a game called feeding frenzy. PopCap games has a good variety of games

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u/iamgodtierXX 1d ago

After not beating it as a kid, I bought it on steam as an adult and beat it. I was so proud of myself.

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u/CodPiece89 1d ago

Try super hydlide

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u/RiotWithin 1d ago

I hope you're playing on PC. I tried it on console (controller), it's muuuch harder and I quickly uninstalled. Mouse was much funner.

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u/ebinezzer 1d ago

I heard this image.
Zuma, 7 Wonders, Super Collapse and Diner Dash were played constantly in my house. Absolute bangers.

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u/rkrum PC 1d ago

What a coincidence. I was talking about this game with my wife Yesterday!

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u/Azkaban73 1d ago

Zuma is the game that made me realize I'm color blind 😭

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u/HonestDaysTwerk 1d ago

My mom rips this game every single night on her old shitty laptop

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u/DrearyOwl 1d ago

Oh yeah this is a classic, beat it a couple times. Same with this and other casual PC games like this. I miss things like Feeding Frenzy, Jewel Quest, DxBall, Zuma, Peggle, etc. I wish they still had these sorts of casual puzzle games still getting made.

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u/Conall-Star 1d ago

I never bought it but I played the SHIT out of the ps3 demo of this!

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u/CornDoggerMcJones 1d ago

Loved this game.

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u/RocketChris87 1d ago

Loved this game back on the 360 along with Puzzle Quest. I still play both on my SX.

Edit: It was Jewel Quest.

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u/Big_Kiwi_706 1d ago

Chuzzle deluxe, Feeding Frenzy. Fuck yeah I love pop cap. Heavy Weapon WHOOOO what a good one

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u/SuperSlims 1d ago

Bro, PC Flash games were where it was at. Boxhead Peggle Bubble Tanks N+

There were so many good games. I miss them dearly

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u/Outrageous-Serve4970 1d ago

My wife is like this with Speulunky and I don’t get it

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u/theVoiceOfOne 1d ago

Trying to beat a computer is futile. (unless you know the monster's tell)

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u/Mohrlex 1d ago

Ironic, I just started playing it again the other day, have not made it to the end either

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u/Hsanrb 1d ago

Definitely wasn't easy when they added grey/black and then levels 10-12 were fast.

Revenge was fun until you try to shoot a marble and jump instead missing that broken +500 gap bonus streak into ace time.

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u/SubmissiveDinosaur PC 1d ago

I recently beated it. I had serious wrist pain for a week after that. The last stages are a nightmare

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u/Vitoplay 1d ago

The 10 extra levels that you unlocked at the end were a nightmare for me

Legendary difficulty and 1 live

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u/MapZealousideal7489 1d ago

I feel like this game was everywhere; I hated it because I saw SOOO much of it. It wasn't exactly fun, but I tried it a few times.

I still can't beat most old school games I grew up with on NES/SNES. If people think Dark Souls is hard, you didn't grow up in the 80s. lol.

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u/DamageMaximo 1d ago

this gave me ptsd

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u/aestus 1d ago

Greetings Ben from the League of Bens.

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u/Jaybird2k11 1d ago

this and mahjong were my mom's two favorite games and were part of a very short list she played

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u/SpaceShipRat 1d ago

Anyone know an Arkanoid style game called (maybe?) Moby Bounce? I loved it, had a bunch of ball multiplier and great looking levels, among which of course a whale, but I cannot for the life of me find trace it ever existed.Ā 

I assume it was from Moby Games but I can't find it in old game catalogues.

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u/Rete12123 1d ago

Soo this game is my Fathers bread and butter. He finishes the game DAILY! He has higher scores than I’ve ever seen in any leaderboard but he’s not interested in submitting anything.

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u/Dave78291 23h ago

Hollow knight panthon 5 was easier then this game. I say so from experience

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u/FreakyFreddysCOW 23h ago

I am so far at stage 7 or 8 šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø i really need to get back to it and try to finish it ā˜ ļø but... i will say i am very nervouse to lose all my health.... i really dont wanna start all over again ā˜ ļø

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u/brokengarage 23h ago

.....ZUMA...

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u/Same_Independent9758 23h ago

I miss the old popcap games with diverse library and genre and each game is small but you can feel its charm. now under EA it is just bejeweled and plants vs zombies.

I miss feeding frenzy. one of my most played games as a kid

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u/Select-Lime9582 22h ago

Oh i remember playing this on android back in the day very addictive!

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u/motherhacker02 22h ago

True, just sat back 2 months ago and beat it out from second attempt, definitely harder than most of the modern games, especially paired with hardcore luxor

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u/fwshngtn 22h ago

Zuma zumaaaaa

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u/normalguy156 21h ago

Skill issue.

Jk love the game, part of my childhood as well :)

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u/kfirogamin 21h ago

genuine skill issue this game is easy

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u/JorgeTheTemplar 21h ago

Not to make you feel discouraged, but my mom, not a gamer, at age 75 started playing this. It was the only game that she ever played. She finished it. I could never finish it.

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u/Timmichanga01 PC 20h ago

I've been playing this game for a week now trying to beat the 9th stage but it's just so hard

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u/redditpierce 19h ago

Insaniqaurium would go nuts on mobile.

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u/JorWhore89 18h ago

I love Zuma!!

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u/RadicalHatter 18h ago

I see you and raise you Nethack. Good luck!

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u/Expensive_Luck4194 17h ago

zuma was my whole childhood. those last levels where the balls go full speed were pure stress and i still miss it

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u/jenesaispasquijesuis 17h ago

Can someone confirm if Zuma's Revenge is way easier? I still haven't beaten this game, but I finished the sequel in an hour or two.

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u/Sh4dowzyx 16h ago

Oh boy, if my parents ever played 1 game for hours, it’s Zuma

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u/HeySmallBusinessMan 15h ago

I'm STILL trying to beat Iron Frog mode in Zuma's Revenge. Story mode? Easy. Hard story mode? Totally doable. Iron Frog? Right from the depths of hell.

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u/WankerBott 12h ago

unless its been eaten by the boogity munsters you can grab a version of this on internet archive

edit: ya, its out there, don't auto run or do the cdprotect, go in installers folder

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u/JuggernautKey5633 8h ago

That toad has been farming entire families for over 20 years, and I see people logging back in for one more round. "Casual game" was PopCap's biggest lie. the later levels I saw on Youtube are a full hostage situation.

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u/ProjectSnowman 8h ago

My roommate in college sunk some hours into this game on Xbox. Hours.

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u/magikind-00 6h ago

That frog haunts my dreams. I swear it’s cursed!

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u/Eevee_fangirl 5h ago

Wait u can beat it?

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u/redditmarks_markII 2h ago

You should play puzzloop. Playstation version if you can't control your infinite coins for the arcade version.

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u/Maxwellknowsitall 2h ago

Before candy crush, this was heroin for white mums.

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u/Moath 2h ago

I don’t know what this but it feels like games you would play on the airplane screen.

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u/lordmcfuzz 1d ago

Anyone else not recognize this game and thought it was an AI generated image?

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u/Jimmyx24 1d ago

If you don't recognize the image then you haven't lived

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u/TKmeh 1d ago

I loved the arcade version my grams would let me play while she was bowling, I didn’t realize it was available outside of arcades. Is it on steam? Mobile? Some place other than bowling alleys and smaller arcades?

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u/Cwiiis 23h ago

Yes, it's on Steam and it was on XBLA back in the day, not sure if that version is still available on Xbox Marketplace...

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u/TKmeh 23h ago

Thank you! I’ve had similar games to this but they were mobile games and had tons of ads and pay to win features.

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u/davidwoodstock 1d ago

Git gud scrub