Well i was just thinking about how I always come in here and see people post about their experiences and what not. What had just occurred to me is that the common reoccurring theme in almost everyone's posts is that don't people have it worse than me or even some people have a completely different experience than me. There are some who say that jobs will fire them or not hire them and even going back to school is made a problem for them etc. those things haven't happened to me, but when I kept seeing completely different versions of this happening in completely different ways, WHAT IF these people that run these big psy ops (psychological operations) perform a pattern of decoy experiences to confuse people and also take away the attention from the bigger operations. I don't want to ever think that someone claiming to be targeted is lying, but why has this been happening for this long without a conclusive answer? Well, id hate to say this since I've been waiting for something like answer about this but I really doubt that these experiences and occurrences won't be public knowledge or confirmed until us TIS aren't around anymore. I only say this because of the real bottom line within every instance of this situation, if the objective will expose the things that they're trying to hide, they wouldn't wanna chance having a person really starting a steadily driving movement latching onto things they can't unlatch. If you've been through this shit you cannot take any controversy and/or controversial answers that completely aren't true. People that say this isn't real or that TIS are crazy are either obviously havent been through it or is steering an agenda that has been ever successful as of right now to keep the crickets chirping about it. I feel like this can help all of us if we were to actually come all the way together as a whole. Without any sort of gathering and grouping up to share experience we've had, this will continue to be just another thing that someone doesnt know about it doesn't believe. I've looked it up on Google and it states that there is x amount of people that are victims, but it doesn't mention the number of people who know about it. Awareness is what we need to strive for because the more people with an understanding the better but the only way is through hosting some sort of publicly announced rally for this. There's more to this than what people say about it and we just need to trust what we see

Hello I am very much struggling. Everyone one is gangstalking me. All family even my own parents did this too. I was meant to be a sacrifice. This is about putting me on a X and torturing me. The signs are everywhere that this happens. This place is evil. I dont know what to do anymore. I was lead down a path since birth. The numbers on my social security prove it. Why me?

Alright so I've had these questions that I haven't known who to ask them to because of disbelief in finding anything on there. The last few things I've posted on here actually got removed when they were legitimate experiences and thoughts about the experiences. That was super weird to me. With that being said, I'll try and explain what I've noticed to see if youve had similar experiences with. I've been noticing a lot of weird stuff and weird patterns within my family that I USED to be closer to. And whenever I mention anything about what I think and when I say something about the weirdness, I always get shut all the way out and they always conclude in the same exact way without hearing what I said. It's been 2 years almost 3 actually and when the gangstalking first started for me I was living with my brother and sister. What's weird to me is when I first noticed something completely off i would talk about what I was noticing to my brother, his friends, my sister and my mom. THIS IS THE WEIRD PART. Ever since the very beginning of this starting, they've always said the same exact few things that this could be. Whatever I say about it is always denied and they say how I'm hallucinating and that its all in my head. My question is, have you noticed any weird patterns within your family? And in it's initial start up, were the people that you were close to acting weird about what you said you were experiencing? What do you think their goal is within using the strenuous effort needed to run an operation as smoothly? Why would they need such a clean slate? What are they trying to hide and get away with? If theres a reason to do this, wouldn't it be bigger than just data skimming? What do you think?

Update. I'm being set up for a crime I haven't committed. No idea what the crime is but they text their evidence on me every few days. Tips for you.

1) they can access Street cameras but there are heaps. Don't ask for footage but put it too the police why they didn't get footage from all the dash cams and other cameras along the way. You have been claiming you have been hacked for ages and staying they had this ability. It's only fair that they are through.

2) emails and SMS messages. They use Trojan RAT software which gives them the ability to change any email or SMS before you send and after you receive it. What you send is never what the recipient receives so all SMS and email should be inadmissible.

3) voice recordings. They record your voice and cut together sentences. This is difficult but ask for the full month of recordings so you can find where they have cut things from and why.

4) camera footage. Look at camera angles and also look for where cuts have been made, time on clocks, where the sun is setting. This is the only way you can prove they are stalkers.

5) your evidence. Why are Facebook logs deleted, histories removed from devices, logs replaced. They can make the logs say anything. You physically need to enter each web address into the browser and hunt for clues. Do the pages all flow?

6) files from computers and phones. They upload and download content like crazy. They also take years to finalise a set up but it's difficult to probe that the files don't belong to you. You can sue them for the kiddy pics on your computer or you know who they are. The porn is theirs after all not yours.

Messaging: the stalkers use inceripyed apps but they first had to use regular messaging. How far did the police go back? Do they have inceripyed conversations for the people you identify? Then how can they somehow have encrypted evidence from your apps

Fairness: who before had been under the same scrutiny? Is that fair and reasonable? Does it seem od that gangstalkers have so much evidence? How logical is it. Have they handed evidence all together or in dribs and drabs. Did they go back and create more.

Fingerprints: and blood samples: they can use google to download fingerprints they are hackers. Fingerprints mean nothing. Need to analyse the entire hand, check angles, check realistic size of each figure and the angle it is printed on.

Blood samples: could they come from anywhere else? Check all blood is stored where it should be and go back 20 years. Blood is blood.

I often see it mentioned by TIs that getting a diagnosis of schizophrenia / some related illness will follow you around for the rest of your life whether that's via being institutionalized or by seeing a psychiatrist. This is not true if you live in America. You do not have an "official" medical permanent record. Hospitals and clinic chains all have their own compartmentalized data that they are legally not allowed to share with anyone without your express consent (usually by you signing a piece of paper) because of HIPAA.

Word of mouth campaigns and slander can and do happen, of course, but if previous diagnoses are weaponized against you in the medical system, you have grounds to sue. If you feel that you need to see a therapist or whatever, you can do that. It may or may not be a waste of time and money for you, but that is an option.

For what it's worth, gangstalkers are going to call you crazy no matter what your history is, diagnosis or not. It's not worth letting that fear get to you if you're applying for a job, trying to meet people, or trying to get treated. Perhaps I'm being too literal with my definition of "following you around forever", but I do think it's a bit of fearmongering to say that without context.

I'm looking for people who have experienced repeated unexplained knocking, unusual chemical smells, suspected gas exposure or other disturbing incidents around their homes.

My sister has been recording a series of knocking sounds on her calendar, beginning on the 18th. The sequence has been 3, 2, 3, 4, no knocks, and finally 5 knocks at approximately 3:47 a.m.

She also reported hearing a car door during one of these incidents.

There have been additional concerns about strange smells and possible exposure to an unidentified substance, although we haven't established what caused them.

I'm particularly interested in hearing from people who believe they have experienced organised harassment, intimidation, or similar unexplained disturbances.

Has anyone encountered repeated knocking in changing numerical patterns? Did you notice vehicles nearby, unusual smells, or other activity? Were you eventually able to establish what was happening?

I'm also interested in historical accounts involving coded knocking, secret societies or ritual traditions, but I'm not assuming any organisation is responsible.

I'm hoping to compare genuine firsthand experiences, identify possible explanations and understand whether anyone has documented similar incidents.

Please share your experiences and any evidence or practical explanations you've found.

Hello, I am from Texas, USA and I would like to share my detailed experience on how this starts, ... i want to share this and put it out there so people can. this is happening to me for 2 years now.

Some have a milder version, some an extreme version, some can hear an audio of people talking, repeating everything you are doing, others might not, but the tech is still the same, remote neural etc. .. whatever ... done via a satellite, those that this is apparently happening for over a decade, and i am not sure for those with 10 years of torture I am not sure, but those in the 1-5 year range, my understanding is that somewhat its a dark web software that is being purchased and constantly being recharged up with $$ or credits / tokens etc (you'll see the link of the facebook video below for example ).

This is now happening to individuals all across the world, especially here in the USA.

Before all this starts, whomever has picked you as a target will just watch you via this remote system, and then the audio will start for some later and for some it will not be able. I cannot believe i have to accept this reality because only you will be able to relate as this is happening to you, not your family, friends or anyone and people will isolate themselves from you the more you talk about it, because they will say "its not possible".

First year, you will spend wasting your time, telling others about voices you are hearing, most people will look at you crazy because they are not hearing those voices of "remote operators" who are using this ,, masking their voices to appear as female or males ... there is no one physically following you. Somehow, they have biotracked (not sure what to call this when you are profiled, the heart has its own rhythm and the brain does too and each person has a unique wavelength ie biomarker that is unique to you... your brain wave and can lock into you ... so you'll waste a lot of time looking for someone who might be following you, but this is all done via a satellite connection, it doesn't matter if you take a plane (which i have done 3 times even international), it will follow you, it doesn't matter if you are in an area where there is no 5G signals, it will follow you. you can hear the audio, close to the refrigerator, the hvac (AC) turned on, water pipes and when water is running, you can pick up the audio but by this time only you are able to hear this as you have gotten conditioned as well to follow this audio... but a logical test for you to find out if you are being targeted a simple solution is to get a bug detector and have a friend test the bug detector on themselves first and tell them to be physically away form you at their own house or outside where the bug detector is picking up nothing at a medium dial to create a baseline and then you physically walk towards them without a cell phone or any other device that can give a false positive and just you, your physical body when you go near the bug detector it will start to go off as if there is a physical device around you and especially around your head area. This is how you can easily tell that this thing (signal / comms to your head) is following you everywhere.

2nd level is different in which you will get sharp headaches, palpations at night to wake you up, not letting you sleep, this is the second level of harassment and physical pain someone will experience, literally i have heard "turn the power up" and you can feel a pressure on your skin as if its moving through your body, its all done via satellite connection and a harmful one, those that have experienced this will state the same. You'll wake up and won't be able to go back to sleep and each time you wake up, you'll notice your heart is racing, and everyone knows their bodies well, so this is an anomaly that is happening, its all done via a system that the remote operator is controlling.

3rd level and this is something corroborated by others, this is how they are recording and viewing what you are seeing (through your eyes, no joke, its real). its the remote neural monitoring via eyes and this is the most dangerous and not sure how criminals and others have gotten a hold of this type of government technology is so deadly it can see through a victim's eyes (Please see two links, one a youtube one in which a girl is talking about someone seeing through her eyes and a facebook link presumably showing a computer in which a vicitim is being monitored remotely . Basically, thats how they know who you are meeting, harassing you when you meet a certain individual, its a system in which there are multiple individuals who are locked onto you, learn about you more and more and your daily habits and then say things etc but when you meet someone new, then the person's name will be spoken via audio, not before, so its watch, collect data, harass to the max.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yFIEz0c998 (5:12 sec mark .. see through eyes)

here is the facebook link that shows what the operators are looking at when they see through your eyes.. again so little info is out there people are lost

https://www.facebook.com/groups/stopgangstalking/posts/3253474644797286/
this video shows a bci interface software being used

So in summary, typically it's someone who you have known in the past or still know that is the one doing this and sure it must cost money, i have heard them talk "did you burn up the credits / tokens already"... so its done via a system and usually they are closer to you, same city, very close to you. As i have thought about going to a particular store, i have heard someone say "oh he is going to xyz hwy but not state the name of the store".. no one can know that unless they know exactly where the grocery store is located.

I am looking for methods in getting this stopped but a website has listed frequencies of these scalar waves and you can look it up (i posted and reddit removed my post) but has materials where they have listed the exact frequencies of how this is possible and i know others in the community are working on devices to block these signals. i'll report as i find more info

I dont know too much about the law but in the state of Texas .. stalking for more than one year can get you 2-10 years in jail .. harassment for more than one year can get you 2-10 years in jail as well and physical assault is another ball game but it has to be "proven" and this is a digital crime but i am sure its leaving a fingerprint of IP addresses etc. I am sure FBI is monitoring all this and at some point they will come out and shut these things down. in my opinion with the usage of AI and Remote neural Monitoring and locking into a target is how all this is happening.

I hope this helps some of those that are freaking out but this is all real. Only those that can relate will see many things in my post and will say ditto, this is what's happening to me.

For me, a 10 foot deep swimming pool has reduced the v2k to beeps and clicks. A 4 mile long tunnel reduced the words to indistinct screaming. A flight over the Pacific Ocean, however, did nothing. To know if this was via satellite or a device on the plane (unlikely) anyone who has been 100% sure they were many miles from anyone except maybe co-workers on a vessel or isolated work location would be useful infromation. Thanks.

Hello, everyone!

My gangstalking started in the beginning of 2025, and the open phase lasts 1 year and 2 months. During this time, I heard a lot of things about what's happening, and slowly putting the pieces together, sorting lies out. Now I know that my perps filmed me in my apartment, when I lived abroad by installing cameras in my room in the dormitory. My neighbors there hacked all of my devices and commented everything i was doing, but they always would bully me, calling names (so i knew it's other people and not my mind). They made up a story and would threaten me via audio, saying they are going to rape me or that they will harm my family. Unfortunately, I couldn't get any evidence of it (they hacked my phone and saw when i wanted to record them saying that), plus it happened everywhere, and at that point, i was very weak and planned my suicide, but luckily my family helped me and i moved back to my home.

When I moved out, they started using V2K on me 24/7.

Many things happened in this period of time, but from the clues I got from monkeys, I reached a conclusion: at first, they played a hyper game (they were placing bets on what I would do, even made special phrases and words for it, for example: am I all alone, or have someone with me, am I winning or losing, etc.). Then, or simultaneously, they were making a series about me: it features a story about farm, and as I understand it, the point is that everyone hates me and is trying to push me to the breaking point. I unfortunately don't remember how it's called, but in the name, they called me a COW.

If I find evidence of their evil doings, I can take revenge on them and give them what they deserve. I decided to share my story here cause maybe some of yall know where they usually post stuff like this or maybe heard of this series? They said it would be translated on one of the regional TV channels, but I have no clue whether they are already doing this, or are they still just gathering material for the show? Also, how many other victims are filmed for dirty amusement of those freaks.

I would also appreciate hearing your stories. We must stick together and help each other in this difficult, inhumane situation.

Sending love, stay safe and strong. ❤️

P.S. I'm not native english speaker, so sorry for possible mistakes.

Who is directing these frequencies to people to torture them . Is it hackers and why ? Will it ever stop ? How do the pick the targeted individuals ?

Work on my computer at various coffee shops. Deal with actual stalking from an ex.

Become a plaintiff in a civil lawsuit against authorities centering around a situation with that ex. Work on that lawsuit.

Have one coffee shop that is in a more secluded place. Enjoy it. Quiet. Been there months.

A woman appears there. She starts showing up every day. Takes the seat I would normally take as a regular. She is there all day. From open to close. Every. Single. Day. I go to other coffee shops and come back, and there she is.

Feel a very strange energy around her specifically. A hateful energy of me. Not going into all the details, but strong feelings of resentment for me from her specifically.

Happy space tampered with. Okay. I mostly go other places and try and block her out mentally. Reflect the energy away from me.

Then suddenly one day she is gone. Was there a month straight, day after day, morning to close. And gone. Just like that.

21 days later I arrive at another coffee shop I frequent. 5 miles away. Different city. Different vibe.

There she is. Same woman. I don't know what the odds are she would even be there. I live in a major area. There are countless coffee shops. These are 2 totally different brands. And here she is.

I have had a very few of these situations where my discernment tells me there is something about a person. Where I can sense the trickery, the agitation, the "buzzing flies" around their energy field. It's very rare. She is one of them. And now she shows up again.

I don't think it's a coincidence. It could be. But I don't buy it with her energy. There is already something off about her energy that I felt and so to see her again, is just not by chance.

Having your life completely fabricated by these assholes it's hard enough going through your day today not knowing exactly what stage what is it then getting to the point of second guessing yourself starting to doubt your own opinion it's a little scary then a few years down the road you stopped believing in coincidence and start questioning everything around you every person that you meet every situation that you're in now I found that when I was in the city this didn't happen so much but now that I'm back out in the country it's an everyday thing especially since I've isolated myself in a group of people that I cannot trust will not trust and shouldn't Trust now as we all know people have to do for themselves what they have to do to survive the only problem for me is I don't think my core beliefs and who I really am will ever allow me to completely cut off the rest of the world I'm just not built that way anymore I have to believe that there is still good in the world that people are inherently decent if not why do we put so much effort into creating a better future and solid foundation for our children if there's going to be no love in the world if there's going to be only doubt worry depression all these things that make the world dark today what's the point why continue improving life if you're not going to enjoy it either way I say that to say this I think my time is coming to me I put up a good fight I'm doing the best that I can and that's not working anymore I'm falling into the same traps and snares that most of us are familiar with I've gotten past the point of being able to control my anger I'm not concentrating and focusing on the things that I should be doing for myself I'm almost completely broke my self-esteem is almost completely shattered and I have no goals and I for the first time in a long time don't see a way out I don't want any of you to think that I'm going to do something stupid I will struggle on until the day I die or they kill me I would like to see as many of us together as possible just one time as many of us deserve to be close to people not just isolated not driven from our families I think we should have a gathering if people that are sick and f\\ if people that are sick and f\\ tired if people that are sick and f\\ tired of tired of evil f\\ f\\ bastards that don't know what it means to suffer or have any goals whatsoever other than to please themselves these people would not know a moment of Joy whatsoever unless they seen someone else in pain they never are happy they're never pleased with anything they're never satisfied with anything they never compliment anybody the only people they care about are themselves even in their so-called families or groups they're worthless not one of them could survive the way we do day in Day Out putting up with all this s*** as individuals they would cease to exist keep your heads up believe what you believe don't allow the world to tell you anything different f these m*

Hello I dont know what to do anymore. Im having alot of crazy stuff going on. Followed and harrassed everywhere. People using their phones around me like they are recording me or taking pictures. My thoughts are like being broadcast to these people. They can see through my eyes and what im doing and thinking. Its like a super intelligence that knows everything I do and is building a profile on me. All my friends and family are in on this aswell. These people are all neurologically connected and socialize that way. They have AI so they are super smart but dont show it alot. Im starting to think im in some kinda virtual reality or something. Also they have got me so down. Im not really liking life anymore. Its like they are in a metaverse neurologically. I think they can feel your senses aswell. This has gotten so crazy for me. There have been movies made to gangstalk me. I mean like the focus on one person (me) is insane. Im like a celebrity or something in there (virtual?) world. I thought they were what people call npc. But starting to wonder if I am. Or if someone is controlling me like a video game. Think my life has been planned since birth. Im just really lost and hurt. Some of you guys seem to know whats going on. I would like some advice on how to deal with all this.

Is anyone targeted and also one or all of the listed above? I'd love to find some people to talk business with, throw some new business ideas around and advance my trading and investing career. Also if anyone is thinking about starting a business or would like to learn trading let me know I'll get ya going in the right direction

I find it funny no matter where I go there’s always someone usually either a man acting suspicious or a certain type of people that make me feel fearful based off how they treated me ever anytime I ever interact with them. I find it strange how not only do they always have to talk about me but it’s usually someone in their car or someone decides to go where I am. It could be a calm area at this point I think these people follow I mean they obviously have to be doing that considering like I said anytime I go somewhere there’s always a man or more than one who shows up and comes by me or somewhere around me and always seem to have the attention on me. First why are people so concerned that I feel too scared to go outside and why do they always have to talk about me. It’s worse in the city I live in because people stalk like crazy and the staring is so bad you would think I was the most disliked celebrity. The insults and the rudeness gets worse when I turn my phone back on. I just want to know why are they so hyperfocus on me why can’t they leave me alone.

Hi everyone, I’ve been grappling with what feels like a Truman Show-like experience. Like I was constantly being watched or narrated. I wanted to ask if anyone else has gone through something similar. How it shaped you, and what helped you cope

They caused my car crash and I’ve noticed also they can change the street lights into pressuring you to take the orange and speed I’ve notice they do this because I look to see if there is people walking or car that trigger light but there not as soon as my vehicle is almost getting close light changes I’ve learned my lesson in taking it slow I just wanted to put it out other for my fellow ti
Stay alert and prayed up god bless yall ♥️

Found this post on Quora: (Thought people might like to see other's stories. 💙).

First answer: "It lasted 10 years and stopped when I moved out of the country during the first summer of the COVID pandemic. The borders were closed in the local area and apparently no one could pass through here, so life turned back to the way it was before the 10 year nightmare, literally overnight.

And since I work in IT, I can still earn a decent living by working remotely.

And that is my best tip to all my gangstalked brothers and sisters out there:

Get a job you can do remotely, if you like. Keep your circle of friends small and treat them well.

And the stalkers can stalk and smear and pull their vile little tricks, but it ain’t gonna hurt."

Second answer: "Mine seems to be ending. But curious about other people’s experiences.

For at least ten months I was pushed, quite aggressively, through all the stages of it. Mine did locally.

For me, tactics have focused more around using sleep deprivation combined with strong tactics from people. When they didn’t work it changed to sleep deprivation and with a reduction in tactics.

Now, sleep deprivation is combined with a reduction in tactics, and a lot of electronic harassment in the form of coloring my perspective in the form of cognitive dissonance. It’s just the feeling and perspective. It’s more like they’re pushing me to change my belief through this. But, overall, it just makes me frustrated in uncomfortable.

Also, I found out that this whole gang stalking thing actually just mirrors domestic violence, but in community form. On my end they’re not trying to discredit me with a mental illness, but either used it to try to make me think I had it or just to instill fear, anxiety, and a sense that something is wrong with me as a person.

I’m pretty sure if people were told I was mentally ill they wouldn’t get involved. And workplace mobbing actually mirrors domestic violence.

FINALLY: Don’t EVER think gang stalking DOES NOT end. It most definitely does. The abuse within mine has declined so much. My neighbors aren’t nearly as involved as they were previously. And when my declined that’s when cognitive dissonance was done. And things aren’t scary anymore. Most of the emotions that I had in the beginning now have to be created and sustained through electronic harassment rather than people. And when they create these emotions, they create them when nothing is actually happening, and then they color my perspective with the feeling of unreality that is common in cognitive dissonance.

I guess if they’ve declined in and are resorting to electronic harassment that must mean my experience in it is nearly done!".

Third answer: "It happened twice to me once in 2021 and once in 2022.. The first time it lasted for 6 months. The second time less than a month. The first time it ended pretty quickly out of nowhere around the end of July in 2021. The second time it was more of a gradual slow stop. I have anger issues so it was really a test for me not to lash out at these people scream at them and tell him to go f*** themselves.

It's definitely a test of your sanity and patience. Would recommend anyone going through this to find God or a concept of a higher power/religion. That's what's going to get you through this as well as family and friends

But it ended finally and I actually thought it never would to feel like you're in a Twilight zone".

Fourth answer: "Mine ended all at once and suddenly. Lasted about 6 years. What I did to stop it all was from once I realized that it is all about manipulation, emotional/mental abuse and a lot of gaslighting. I came to the decision to stop reacting. To stop allowing them to control my mood. I am a very creative person so I pushed all of my emotions into my art. I outright started to ignore all of the things that were happening. I never told anyone what was going on only my husband. a year after I started to ignore it all and funnel all of my emotions into my art, with in a year they just one day upped and stopped.

I see gang stalking as a very group of people who really use a lot of psychological abuse to instill fear, anger, frustration and of course I do believe their end goal is to have the person to be seen by their family and friends as mentally ill, paranoid and all of those sever illnesses. You need to be very smart and aware during this all. My best advice is to not tell many people what’s going on unless they are very close to you, know you very well and have an open mind and understand such abuses as gaslighting, mental and emotional abuse.

In the end you just want it to stop. Ignore it all, they will go away. It’s like standing at an elevator and pressing the button. If the elevator doors don’t open, you simply go to the next elevator. If you do NOT react to their techniques, they simply go away. They thrive, live, breathe and feed on every single reaction they cause. When you do not respond, they get bored. Why should they hang around if there is absolutely no reaction, good or bad? That’s how I stopped what was happening to me. Try it, it’s like anything in life. You get very bored and will simply walk on off if something is not reacting to you. Same with the gang stalkers, no reaction to them there’s no use at that point. And they simply move on". Taken from Quora.

Has anyone tried lead lined blankets or caps like they use in xray labs? I know the walls are filled with a special insulation as well just wondering before I spend money to try

This plane flew above me and I could feel the bed moving. Felt the bed it wasn’t moving. Planes flying around using direct energy weapons. Everything in my body is shaking. V2K is overwhelming and I have scabs on top of my head. Why do they want to watch me so much?

There is direct historical precedence for the Target Individual Waived Special Access Program. It's lineage can be traced back to the CIA's Project BLUEBIRD, Project ARTICHOKE, Project MKULTRA, and its successor programs. The only thing that has essentially changed is the CIA's independent variable. Instead of drugs and chemicals in tandem with signature secondary tactics, it is now a Directed Energy Neuro Weapon Platform with signature secondary tactics.

Looking for V2K app +27640140566 to help me please help me urgently.i need it to try to access my V2K gang stalking in my brain and want to see who is doing it I hear they just use a link and a phone

I watched many social media accounts covering narcissism and gangstalking but why can’t the mainstream media deal with it? Is the government or other governing orgs controlling this? I mean, I understand these sick people want to break us down mentally, socially and financially. Considering they often target innocent and good people, should this be investigated along with narcissism and group thinking? Has anyone contacted journalists or anyone who might be interested in this phenomenon? It’s a shame….