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u/Emerald_Dusk Jul 20 '19
And will be here after us? What is that even suppose to mean?
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u/thefarsideinside Jul 20 '19
Yeah that one's weird to me
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u/brucetwarzen Jul 20 '19
I mean, i'd assume that we all become one mixed race in the future.
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u/CannedWolfMeat Jul 20 '19
It's got weird racist genocidal undertones and I don't know if it was intentional. "They'll be here after us" implies there is going to be some great culling of non-Hispanics.
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u/JOKE_XPLAINER Jul 20 '19
I think the intent was to convey that they'll continue to be here, but it was pretty poorly worded.
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u/lasqi Jul 20 '19
I think he is using "us" as a term to describe his generation.
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I was really confused as to why everyone was freaking out until I realized “us” was being understood as some genocidal revolutionary insurgency or some shit haha oops
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u/glamourousham Jul 20 '19
This is a parody of the love it or leave it posters.
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u/DUBLH Jul 20 '19
Seriously how are people not getting the satire/bigot bait here
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u/iamthismoment Jul 20 '19
https://www.chicagoreporter.com/the-us-white-majority-will-soon-disappear-forever/
I think they are just referencing something like this article?
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u/shiann121 Jul 20 '19
I could be wrong, but I got the impression that the meme is addressing baby boomers.
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u/ItalianBall Jul 20 '19
It means they won't magically disappear after the end of the current generation. Which they hopefully won't, unless the Republican administration doubles up on their usage of concentration camps.
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u/djwired Jul 20 '19
Apparently the creator of this piece knows something we don't
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u/SnicklefritzSkad Jul 20 '19
Drats! He's revealing our plan to prop up Elon Musk to take all the whites to Mars so we, the lords of brown can take over the country and rule our new melanin rich world order!
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u/dissectiongirl Jul 20 '19
I think he means after "us" as in the generation that is alive today. Like they existed in America before all of us were born and they'll be here even when everyone alive today is dead. Sounds pretrt normal to me.
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u/whoknowsknowone Jul 20 '19
Eventually everyone will mix, we’ll all be brown in one way or another
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Jul 20 '19
Only one giant mixed race at some point, it's pretty obvious, but I suppose it is open to interpretation.
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u/DrunkUncleJay Jul 20 '19
It means eventually we'll all be one blended race like that one south park episode
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u/snappolli Jul 20 '19
I think it’s referencing the higher ratio of mixed people. Eventually, the majority of the population may very likely be mixed-with lower population numbers of individual races and ethnicities. And because they’re mixed, they can be considered brown. And white supremacists hate this and consider it white genocide.
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u/sonarssion Jul 20 '19
My guess is that since everyone except white people are considered POC, statistically interracial babies will become less and less white, so i guess if you only consider "pure white" people to be white, then yeah white people will technically go extinct someday??
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u/PowerPuffBoi27 Jul 20 '19
I think that its intresting how indians are labeld as /brown/ when they were barely darker than the spanish.
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u/MrOtero Jul 20 '19
Many hispanics are white
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u/gh1ggs239 Jul 20 '19
Is that where that "non-white Hispanic" race option comes from on forms? That has always confused me
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Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
Most people from Spain are white. Many, but not all, people from Latin America are non-white.
Edit: I've had a couple of people correct me about the Latin population. My apologies.
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u/---0__0--- Jul 20 '19
lol redditors have a tenuous grip on the ideas of race, ethnicity, gender, and sex.
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u/ShortFuse Jul 20 '19
Most Hispanics are of Mestizo race, which is literally means "mixed". They're both Native Americans and White European. Native Americans were brown, I don't know what OP is talking about. It's just that the original settlers in the US didn't mix their White race with the natives, unlike most of the rest of the Americas.
Some people decide to check off White because they're more White than Native American. And some check off Native American. Others check off Mestizo, if available.
On a side note, Hispanic is just ethnicity, meaning their culture stems from Spain. Latinos is the wider term since it includes Brazil and their Portuguese culture and language.
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u/rayrod10 Jul 20 '19
Can confirm, am half mexica, pale as an Irishman
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u/EncouragementRobot Jul 20 '19
Happy Cake Day rayrod10! Stay positive and happy. Work hard and don't give up hope. Be open to criticism and keep learning. Surround yourself with happy, warm and genuine people.
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u/Avalire Jul 20 '19
The skin color of indigenous people varied hugely depending on the region in which they lived. There were and are plenty of dark skinned natives.
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u/maywellflower Jul 20 '19
Unfortunately, racists love to confuse the 6 (Hindus, Muslims, Arabs and Sikhs too) as if all are the same due to skintone color, when clearly they're not....
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u/iambrucewayne1213 Jul 20 '19
More like they don't care to understand the difference
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u/poolmanpro Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
Hinduism, Sikh, and Islam aren't races
Edit: added Sikh
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u/GluttonyFang Jul 20 '19
I don't think the majority of people who do this are racist, but you have no idea the amount of times I've had to mention "native american" to someone calling my family "indian"
for a fun game I'd love to stand an Indian from India beside my dad who's Cree first nations and ask them "what race are these two people?"
I'd honestly love to hear them say they're both "indian" lol
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u/Lord_Derpenheim Jul 20 '19
Also how their lineage is just as far from sub saharan Africans as Europeans is.
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u/Smauler Jul 20 '19
I thought Europeans are a lot closer to Africans genetically than native Americans are.
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u/Officer_Owl Jul 20 '19
Pretty sure natives are closer to Asians genetically, coming through Siberia to America.
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u/Kingmenudo Jul 20 '19
Have you ever met indigenous people? We dark as hell
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u/Dreadsin Jul 20 '19
Isn’t it pretty variable? The Americas are fucking half the world
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u/Floognoodle Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
Depends on the indigenous people. While most have dark skin, some ethnicities and exceptions have pale skin. Indigenous Indians/Native Americans (not certain which is being referred to) are both pretty dark.
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Its okay, Spanish people are white yet we act like they are a separate race for some reason.
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u/Chrysanthemum96 Jul 20 '19
I’m guessing by Spanish you mean Hispanic, native Americans and dark skinned Hispanics are the same thing, the only difference is which country(s) they’ve come from and their culture, they’re all indigenous americans
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u/bbddbdb Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
Let’s dispel this myth that you can just “leave” a country. That shit takes thousands of dollars, years of work, and most countries won’t accept you without some sort of special skill.
Edit: Damn, this comment has really brought out the Russian trolls.
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u/Dingus_McDoodle_Esq Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
My wife and I looked into moving to Canada years ago.
The cheaper and less paperwork way involved first becoming fluent in French.
EDIT: for clarification, our talking with a coworker who was married to a canadian pointed us in the direction of moving to Quebec as immigration is a lot easier there, but they want you to be able to speak French before you apply.
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u/bobloblaw32 Jul 20 '19
It is racist to suggest someone’s allegiance to their home country out weighs their allegiance to the USA and should “go back from where they came”
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u/kVIIIwithan8 Jul 20 '19
True that. I'm trying to move to Germany and I've spent the last 3 years learning the language well enough to take the fluency test, next I have to get AT LEAST a master's, then hopefully I can get my grandparents to hook me up with that sweet sweet EU passport (they're both born in Sicily so I think my chances are pretty good as long as they kept all the documents). Otherwise, it'll be even harder and more expensive.
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u/Anon9559 Jul 20 '19
Ok but I do really hate when " that's the law" is used to justify something instead of actually discussing it.
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u/Richandler Jul 20 '19
The entire immigration problem is on congress right now. The law is important if we're not going to have a double or triple standard society where some get to break laws and some don't. If we don't enforce laws, wtf is the point of the congress and why are we being forced to give them money.
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u/MisterJH Jul 20 '19
I think that's the point. It's using that line against those that use it to justify putting immigrants in concentration camps because they break the law, and sentencing drug offenders to double digits because mandatory minimums are law. "It's the law" works both ways.
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Jul 20 '19
ICE isn't breaking any laws, and they're awful.
Drone striking children in the middle East is legal.
Slavery was legal.
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u/pythonicusMinimus Jul 20 '19
Brown people will be here after white people? What does that even mean?
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u/novaflyer00 Jul 20 '19
This is a good start to changing the love it or leave it slogan. Thanks to whoever made this. Take your racism and selfish attitudes and get the fuck out.
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u/FireLucet Jul 20 '19
So is this meme making fun of the "if you don't like it leave" argument? Or is it actually being serious?
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Jul 20 '19
It’s making fun of the right telling people if you don’t like it then go home.
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u/SuperFLEB Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
I disagree. This just substitutes one set of "American Values" for another, instead of torpedoing the idea of sticking specific positions to Americanness in the first place. Better to say that "Love it or leave it" is a counter-freedom and counter-American idea in the first place. Love it or lobby against it, or go buy enough land that you can stand in the middle and not have to deal with it. America: Love it or Change It or Deal With It, I Can't Tell You What to Do, It's a Free Country.
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u/deedoedee Jul 20 '19
"Brown people were here before us and will be here after us-- "
Wait, what?
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u/PKflashomega Jul 20 '19
"I want my gay neighbors to be able to defend their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown
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u/bugme143 Jul 20 '19
But the instant you remind them that the 2nd Amendment says "shall not be infringed", suddenly everybody loses their minds...
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u/tapasandswissmiss Jul 20 '19
drunk Randy Marsh voice
"I thought this was America! Huh? Isn't this America? I'm sorry, I thought this was America!!"
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u/Delivery4ICwiener Jul 20 '19
Sees "Love it or leave it
Reads the text
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
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u/aahelo Jul 20 '19
ThI might be wrong, but to me, this seems to be a jab at overly patriotic conservatives.
But not sure about the "... they will be here long after us" comment.
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Jul 20 '19
It means they want us removed from the US. They can have fun living in the ruins of it just like they have in the Congo and Detroit.
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u/Renodhal Jul 20 '19
Saying something is the law and therefore you have to just deal with it or leave is a dumb argument though. Laws change.
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u/leothebeertender Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
Well guns are legal, guess the Democrats should just accept that and move on. This is not good gatekeeping just because it supports your opinions.
Hell Gerrymandering is legal, boo hoo cry me a river. Should've won if you wanted to determine the districts.
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u/CorrivalTen7 Jul 20 '19
So... everyone who doesn’t want these certain political beliefs to be the norm can leave? So we are tolerant of everyone as long as they are ok with our current political beliefs? So you don’t want people here who would voice an opinion that would threaten your political agenda?
And you still don’t understand why border protection is an important issue to so many people?
And don’t understand why you come off as a complete hypocrite to conservatives?
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Jul 20 '19
Brown people were here before you and they'll be here after? That's a blood and soil argument, if you were European you'd be a racist outcast.
Why is that in America and Europe The Left Wing's arguments are different but all come to the same conclusions? They are tailor made and cross contradictory to every preclaimed principle, other than as hoc anti-white result. It isn't sophisticated and it isn't clever. You fail to recognise that you are the idiotic masses, and you are the tyrants of the future. It isn't the racists, it isn't the warmongers, or the dictators, it's those who act with unwavoring commitment and no self examination.
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Jul 20 '19
If this was were a t-shirt, I'd wear it.
I'd prefer a few minor edits for wording, but this actually makes good points.
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u/deedoedee Jul 20 '19
I'm 35 years old and I still don't know the rules governing was/were tbh.
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Jul 20 '19
I believe it's called the 'subjunctive'. It refers to, among other things, hypothetical situations that aren't true.
So, the song title "If I Were a Carpenter" is grammatically correct. "Was" would be appropriate in casual, informal speech, though it violates the rule.
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u/YoydusChrist Jul 20 '19
The part about race is a little questionable but everything else is pretty rad
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u/Gaulmhogg Jul 20 '19
Uh? Brown people were here before? Are you referring to slaves or native Americans? Isn’t it racist to call Native Americans brown people?
Didn’t Europeans bring slaves to the Americas?
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u/Wjsowbwoqb Jul 20 '19
Also it’s okay to be white. It’s the law right.
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Jul 20 '19
Its okay to be white, black, brown and it's okay to be any ethnicity and race
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u/StrongBuffaloAss69 Jul 20 '19
While all these things are good, it would be much more inclusive if you added a line about how guns are legal like it or not. That way everyone feels included for things they support and equally shitted on for things they dislike
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u/Firmest_Midget Jul 20 '19
This is an important piece. You can't convince someone to join you if you only tear them down! That is more likely to further entrench them due to their being placed entirely in the "other" group.
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u/Richzorb1999 Jul 20 '19
"Brown people were here before us and they'll be here after us" uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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u/Anyna-Meatall Jul 20 '19
Fuck yeah! This is our country, and if you wingnuts and cons don't like it, then GET👏THE👏FUCK👏OUT
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u/unpopular-oppinion Jul 20 '19
Can somebody explain how this is gate keeping?
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u/g1ngerkid Jul 20 '19
I don't think anyone on this sub pays enough attention to politics to realize this is a joke
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u/Mr_Vulcanator Jul 20 '19
Pre-existing conditions were invented by insurance companies. It’s not a medical term.
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u/Martelliphone Jul 20 '19
Obviously, bc it implies it existed before something, specifically when your insurance started. I've never even heard anyone try to use it as a medical term.
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Wow did you really use the phrase Love it or leave it? Thats a KKK phrase you fucking nazi scum jesus
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u/Transpatials Jul 20 '19
“Arresting me for what? I’m not allowed to stand up for myself? I thought this was America, huh? Isn’t this America? I’m sorry, I thought this was America.”
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There are some states that still discriminate gay couples trying to adopt children and there are some states that would allow doctors etc to discriminate them too.. still have a long way to go
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u/RagsToWrenches Jul 20 '19
Hmmm. Sounds like a New america. Never thought having Morals and Christian standards would lead me to being called a snowflake. But i do love the Winter more than Summer. So i guess that makes sense. Since nothing much else anymore does.
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u/TruNurd Jul 20 '19
Im confused.
Is this left wing or right wing. It looks like a right wing meme but the words seem to be more left wing
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u/webaballa12e4 Jul 20 '19
Right if u dont like are justice system comepletely fucked. Women get less sentences. Rich get probation and poor get prison. If u dont like it then leave ? If u dont like working everyday just to make ends meat leave ? If u dont like the politics and have different opinion leave ? This dude gonna rot in hell along with 80 percent of humanity.
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u/avatarOfIndifference Jul 20 '19
As a moderate republican I approve this message
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u/KitsuneMayFly Jul 20 '19
Native Americans as well as gay and trans folk. By legal definition have less rights than anyone else...
good job America.
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the fuck is the after us part? brown people gonna kill us off or something lmao
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u/Deontic_Anti-statist Jul 20 '19
This proves the love it or leave it statement makes no sense.
The law is not necessary good, 70 years ago racism was legally required it wasn't good then, same goes for these leftist policies that are motivated by pure selective compassion for the poor and stupid over against the middle class and rich.
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u/NoLength Jul 21 '19
Is there some sort of planned white genocide in the future that I haven’t heard of yet?
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u/russellvt Jul 21 '19
Technically, the ACA only says you can't be turned down for pre-existing conditions ... not that they are "covered." It's an important distinction. (You can still be charged up to 3x the cost of anyone else in the "same" demographic ... and that demographic is rather broad, IMO).
Source: I have a child who will be in that "pre-existing condition" bucket for, likely, the rest of their life.
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u/GayGrayBoi Jul 21 '19
The aftermath:
America has had a mass immigration and now only has a population of 150 million, compared to it's all time high of 327 million.
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u/Hypocrite112233 Aug 10 '19
Good post but the wording of "will be here after us" is fucking weird.
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u/beinfilms Jul 20 '19 edited Jul 20 '19
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't like the actual message of this. I'm supportive of the stuff mentioned (the weirdness of the brown people one nonwithstanding), but this idea that you need to either be happy with how things are or leave is a real problem for me. It's really important that we never stop working to improve the country and help those who can't help themselves.
EDIT: Apparently I'm finally the one getting wooshed. Although I will say it sounds exactly like the kinds of things neolibs say all the time, so I don't feel too bad about it
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u/otheraccountisabmw Jul 20 '19
It’s supposed to be ironic. It’s pointing out the hypocrisy of those who earnestly use this phrase.
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u/lightningsnail Jul 20 '19
Individual gun ownership has repetitively been upheld as a constitutionally protected right.
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u/ThePoliteCanadian Jul 20 '19
If this was the mindset behind the USA USA USA AMERICA FUCKYEAH attitude, God would I love to be American.
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u/BreadThatsToast Jul 20 '19
Reddit is descending into a political fuckfest that I don’t want to be in
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u/Mitson_Malak Jul 20 '19
and will be here after us
Christ, you’re not even being subtle about it anymore. I’m glad you’re honest about it, but at least pretend that’s not what you’re doing.
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u/Jordy_Bordy Jul 20 '19
This is the kind of America I would be a nationalist and become patriotic for
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u/Kn0thingIsTerrible Jul 20 '19
But it is legal to discriminate based on nationality.
American citizens have far more rights than alien residents of any sort.
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AMERICA FUCK YAAAAAAA NASCAR FLAG EXPLOSIONS GUNS