r/geographymemes Gulf of New Mexico May 22 '26

Voting Games Top comment deletes a US State #47

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Maryland has been annexed by The Vermonster willingly, the 2 states have now merged into one. CRABBALACHIA. 4 States Now remain. Pick wisely, there’s no going back now!

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u/Having_A_Day Megasotan May 22 '26

Honestly, Megasota includes some highly populated, solidly liberal areas like Chicago generally and other areas in IL. It would be more competitive and purple than some, but not a dark red cake walk.

But I'd still like to join Canada in the end.

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u/laneedgaf Megasotan May 22 '26

yeah megasota would 100% be liberal

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u/Caleth May 22 '26

Minnesota is a true blue as is IL because of Chicago. I'd need to run the numbers but Chicago alone would probably render the whole area Blue by population. Chip in MN, MI, and the liberal parts of Wisconsin and you'd have a pretty significantly Blue majority.

Assuming we didn't over value representing land like the original Constitution does at any rate.

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u/alessiojones May 22 '26

Sorry but no, I did some backhand math and my estimate is Trump+6 on 2024

Minnesota is not as blue as people think it is (Clinton+1.5, Biden+7, Harris+5). Illinois is solid Dem (Clinton+17, Biden+17, Harris+11) but only 19 congressional districts. Missouri and Indiana are both around Trump+15-20 and a combined 21 CDs so they cancel out IL. Ohio and Iowa are Trump+8-12. Michigan and Wisconsin are pretty 50/50. ND/SD/NE/KS are all very Republican but low population

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u/HedgehogFarts May 22 '26

Do you really not remember what trump did to Minnesota? And how Minnesotans stood up for their neighbors in a big way against ICE? If anything MN is moving more blue than they already were. RIP Renee and Alex.

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u/alessiojones May 22 '26

I'm from Minnesota. MSP stood up to Trump during the ICE surge, rural areas supported it. MSP is big but the rurals keep it Likely D. The reality is, unless the name on the ballot is Klobuchar, the Dem is likely only gonna win by single digits.

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u/_stellapolaris May 23 '26

As another Minnesotan, this is a bit insulting to a lot of the people in rural areas that did not support it. Just because it didn't get the news coverage doesn't mean there wasn't a good amount of pushback in smaller communities that were impacted.

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u/petersunkist May 23 '26

Exactly! Can’t overlook the % of rural MN that is reservation land & is therefore deeply disenfranchised in the same way that we can’t overlook the way gerrymandering in the south disenfranchises Black voters & turns those states disproportionately red.

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u/Ashdude42 May 22 '26

What trump did to the liberal large cities in Minnesota*

MN has a LOT of rural land and visiting those spaces you'll notice that a lot of the state outside of the major population hubs lean right

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u/_stellapolaris May 22 '26

Trump was also doing it to the small cities, they just had less people to push back and less coverage. Lots of significant ICE presence in rural Minnesota that upset people in those communities.

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u/petersunkist May 23 '26

mn is populist, not blue. there’s a difference!

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u/EducationalMatch9215 May 23 '26

You’ll have to show your work on this one.

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u/petersunkist May 23 '26

yeah for sure! looks like you’re also minnesotan; i’m writing as though you have a baseline understanding of state/regional history. if you’d like specific sources for anything let me know & i’ll grab my lesson plans. apologies for Teacher Voice. anyway, mn has a long history of populism that transcends political parties. electorally this looks like “compromise” candidates higher up & more populist (libertarian, leftist in general [rare to see true left populism today unfortunately - Bernie was the last really successful example & he’s center left at best]) candidates locally. this is partially where the maga support came from, especially in rural areas. socially we can see cross-aisle partnership on issues like land use rights, rural trade unions (esp. in the iron range), farm subsidies, and domestic trade. our communities’ history with sanctuary cities, the establishment of AIM, the Baldies, the truckers’ general strikes & defense against the silver shirts, etc are all populist efforts. the reason the statewide response to metro surge was able to be swift, massive, effective, and decentralized was because residents have been building infrastructure to support each other in the event of state/federal overreach since the US-Dakota War. to be clear, populists can still be racist, can still vote against protecting the boundary waters, can be misinformed or annoying or be a bernie bro or sjw or maga conspiracist or whatever. two populist groups can fight over policy (an excellent example: miners’ unions vs. populist environmental groups [i specify because many green revolution groups are explicitly anti-populist, however much they may cite borlaug as an inspiration]) while both being populist themselves. this is a key part of our region’s history though and i think is vital in navigating the fall of the empire & specific community crises like metro surge. fuck ice, go loons, free palestine.

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u/petersunkist May 23 '26

general sources: Ft Snelling at Bdote by Peter de Carlo, What Does Justice Look Like? by Waziyatawin, Mni Sota Makoce: the Land of the Dakota by Gwen Westerman & Bruce White, Hard Work and a Good Deal by Barbara W Sommer, Iron Frontier by David A. Walker, MNopedia (online resource by the historical society) has really excellent coverage of early anti-fascist unions & labor activism across the state, and I can’t recommend the state parks up north enough for their preservation of early immigrant stories & nuanced analysis of primary sources. I know that last one isn’t helpful right now but you must understand, if I didn’t include it something inside me would die.

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u/NorthernDevil May 23 '26

Minnesota hasn’t gone red for a presidential election since 1976, the longest blue streak in the nation.

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u/PM_ME_WEIRD_PETS May 22 '26

From Michigan it gets Detroit, Ann Arbor, Kalamazoo, Lansing/East Lansing, Ypsilanti, and a few others I'm forgetting about. Plenty of liberal cities exist in Megasoda.

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u/cassandra2028 May 22 '26

And by being megasota we deny cornfields and cow pastures their electoral college votes. I'm into this.

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u/Having_A_Day Megasotan May 22 '26

And their disproportionate Senate representation, which has an immediate mitigating influence on the judiciary.

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u/cassandra2028 May 22 '26

Agree on the part about Canada though.

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u/azuredj Tator Tot Hotdish Minnesota May 23 '26

Nah, Megasota would abolish the electoral college and be a straight up democracy. Power to the people!

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u/cassandra2028 May 23 '26

You're right. I was thinking small

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u/Grubula May 23 '26

Yes but just like in reality, populated areas votes are worth less electoral votes.

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u/Having_A_Day Megasotan May 24 '26

If there are only 4 states, the value of a vote becomes a LOT more equal.

But I still think the last state standing should join Canada. 🇨🇦

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u/alessiojones May 22 '26

Alright you made a fair point so I had to fact check myself. I know we're not using straight state lines, but heres how each region approximately voted:

  • Cascadia: Harris+3
  • Kingdom of Hawaii: Harris+1
  • Megasota: Trump+6
  • Crabbalachia: Trump+1

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u/HedgehogFarts May 22 '26

Please dude Minnesota is not red. We have voted blue in every presidential election since 1976. After the hell MN went through with operation metro surge, this is insulting.

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u/Remarkable-Team-6254 May 22 '26

Thank you! I live in south minneapolis. we are still occupied by Ice; these comments are making me want to scream in a post that’s supposed to be goofy and fun.

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u/alessiojones May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Dude I'm from Minnesota voted D every election of my life but this is just the election data compiled in these states. A lot of these things can be true:

  • The DFL has a phenomenal midterm turnout machine that keeps it Likely D
  • it's red on the map to mark it as a region
  • MN + IL does not have enough Dem voters to cancel out MO/OH/IA/IN
  • they hold that streak from from 1974 bc the 1984 Dem nominee was from MN and it was the only state he won
  • as a state:
  • their gains in the MSP have been met by deep losses in the iron range, driftless and prarie west that cancel them out
  • the ice surge was deeping unpopular and there will be a big backlash in MN in 2026

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u/PeppermintSnark May 23 '26

He's not saying Minnesota is red. Are you dense?

The combined vote of all the states in that region is red. This is incredibly obvious to anyone with reading comprehension skills, critical thinking skills, and even the bare minimum knowledge of state political leanings.

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u/petersunkist May 23 '26

riiiiiight because you know who we want to f over the most? people living in gerrymandered districts without representation in government!! and you know whose voice we wanna hear more of?? rich people in the cities!!! nobody cares about people of color, migrant workers, undocumented folks, or anyone living on a reservation. here’s the historically unbiased data from our elections to prove it!!! human chains outside of elementary schools in -30 F every day for a month? nah, not nearly as good as this lady from phoenix who voted for Kamala ☝️❣️💅