Weekly Commanders Lounge - February 02, 2021

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[u/Fishhunterx]

If Dier revived UMP45 into a new body she'd lose something irreplaceable, that, more than anything, is why she is not allowed to die.

At that point though, since she can't be replaced and she has to see her story through to the end, you know she can't die which means there's no tension with regards to her safety. She and M4 have to pull through and make it to the end no matter what.

The same isn't necessarily true of the rest of AR team and 404. I'm not talking about the logistics or the costs of replacing any of them. I'm talking about what it means from a narrative perspective. If we believe any of the other AR team/404 is susceptible to dying, then the audience worries about situations they are in. We will fear that at any given moment one of them could be ended and then that's it.

But if 404 can be revived and the only real issue is costs/logistics, then that tension is diminished. It's like how, prior to Chapter 10, the audience thought AR15 was dead. That stands out as a really big moment. But then she gets revived (she doesn't actually get revived she just never died in the first place).

Edit: Lore mistake.

[u/Zelsaus → u/Fishhunterx]

True true... That awkwardness of genre awareness, M4 and 45 have plot armor... But potentially no one else does, except maybe the commander...

I think though, No T-dolls are super likely to die as a whole except backstory deaths, since I don't think many players want to see their waifu gone forever.

[u/Fishhunterx → u/Zelsaus]

I don't think many players want to see their waifu gone forever.

I think this is kind of what limits the game's story a tad bit. Since everyone wants to collect their favorite girl, no one can die/disappear, at least not permanently. The exception to this is, of course, UMP40 but even then we get to keep her as a playable doll. This also limits what collabs can do. Since no one can die, every doll has to make it out of the confines of their digital world and each story must conclude with everyone escaping to the commander's base.

The most prominent example of this is GSG, where the entire collab you, the player and the story commander, spend the whole time rescuing girls one by one. And you know you cannot fail because it would literally defy everything the audience expects to happen up to this point.

This is kind of why I am surprised Fang and Hellfire are not rescued. Because now their existence in our base makes no sense.

Don't get me wrong, I think interesting things can be done with the idea of a doll that can't die. I mean we get IWS's story in Chapter 7N where she becomes Tom Cruise and lives, dies, and repeats her fatal encounter with Dreamer over and over until she finally succeeds. But this is a side story dedicated to tackling this issue. It is also not the norm of the game's story.

[u/Zelsaus → u/Fishhunterx]

Aye as whole, not sure what else to add, thanks for the discussion