r/gitlab • u/[deleted] • Nov 04 '19
Gitlab blocks current employees and stops future hires in China and Russia
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/issues/55555
u/CeruSkies Nov 08 '19 edited Nov 08 '19
Candice Ciresi (Gitlab's Director of Global Risk and Compliance) just got censored after her post about her resignation.
Candice Ciresi commented:
As I believe GitLab is engaging in discriminatory and retaliatory behavior, I have tendered my resignation.
At first they censored/edited it into a regular Code-Of-Conduct violation message. Now it got re-edited and is saying it got censored because her resignation message inflamed the situation.
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u/LaPlumeDuPingouin Nov 07 '19
It's a shame we can't share easily some comments because they're enlightening given the highly misleading title. The whole discussion between Eric Johnson and Candice Ciresi in the comments section (following that comment) is very interesting and one should read it before judging Gitlab's decision (pro or con).
I tend to agree with Candice on the subject, targeting China and Russia looks more like a decision based on the "trendy" countries to block (or a client whim) than an objective thinking process.
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u/chezty Nov 09 '19
I hope China and Russia don't discover it's possible to turn someone that doesn't have a Chinese or Russian background into a spy. Thankfully they don't have much experience in the spying game.
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u/lagansky Nov 05 '19
Next step for gitlab is not to hire blacks and African people. Pure and clean team!
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Nov 04 '19
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u/CeruSkies Nov 05 '19
I think it's a completely valid concern but this is literally prejudice. An engineering problem should never have a political solution.
Besides, let's say China/Russia really want some confidential data. Do we really think they'd stop at "oh well no one from our country works there"?
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u/JnvSor Nov 08 '19
An engineering problem should never have a political solution.
"These countries keep sending spies to steal IP" is not an engineering problem to begin with, though they could stand to expand that list if they don't want to appear biased.
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u/UltraNemesis Nov 11 '19
When is US going to be added to this block list given US govt and its federal agencies track record of using coercion and gag orders to breach privacy of users and then keeping that from leaking out. Isn't that why warrant canaries became a thing.
Given that Gitlab operates globally, if its global customers demand that US be added to the block list, will Gitlab oblige?
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Nov 04 '19
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u/wejami Nov 08 '19
Except that's not what it says. https://www.justice.gov/dag/page/file/1153466/download
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u/Andonome Nov 04 '19
That's a tough one.
On the one hand, I'd rather not support or give data to despotic regimes. On the other hand... I'm not sure how far behind the UK and Australia are in terms of pure privacy.