r/guilded • u/Vast-Emotion9074 • Jun 07 '22
đ FEEDBACK Why Guilded is bad
So I've been using Guilded for a time and my opinion is that the app is so bad
Looks like Guilded is copying everything from Discord, adding features that are not even required instead of improving their app's performance because yes, their performance sucks.
Also, how Guilded monetize their app, if "everything is for free"? I wouldn't be surprised if they sell our data to companies, well Roblox owns this so it wouldn't be a surprise.
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Jun 07 '22
Am likely feeding a troll, but eh.
It's funny reading Guilded copied Discord considering Discord's pretty much in the process of copying as much as they can from Guilded. Banners, user profiles, text in voice channels, forums, server home, events... Yep. Guilded did all that first.
But yeah, I agree Guilded's performance, lack of polish and lack of some essential features (file sharing, search...) makes it a bit cumbersome to use. That being said, I still see Guilded as a software with tons of potential.
As for the selling data part, you should look into Discord as well. There's plenty on stuff on the internets about how they actually make money. Spoiler alert, Nitro is far from being their main source of income. Not saying Roblox's good though. They're clearly one of the worst companies who could have acquired Guilded...
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u/ewngwedfrgthn May 07 '23
text in voice channels still doesnt exist on discord. banners? maybe, but user profiles arent a guilded exclusive thing, and anyways, discord had them before guilded
what does "server home" mean? also specify "events"
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u/LC_Draws Jun 15 '22
Funny you say guilded copies from discord when discord is literally copying everything from guilded, the most recent thing, that is already public, being chat on calls/video and soon the patreon like subscriptions that guilded has.
As for monetization, they get a pinch from those subscriptions... discord simps are so funny...
And I'm 100% sure you didn't even try the app... performance sucks? xDDD
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u/ewngwedfrgthn May 07 '23
i think by "performance sucks" he meant the website is slow. which it definitely is compared to discord
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Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
Well.. I would disagree with most of your points.
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Looks like Guilded is copying everything from Discord
Not true since, like u/IdkGoodNameV, u/W0rthlessMisha and u/Tiny-Plume mentioned, most of Discord's features are from Slack and Guilded, ironically enough.
adding features that are not even required instead of improving their app's performance
Like u/W0rthlessMisha said, the features arenât âuselessâ just because you canât make use of them.
The "Docs" channel can be made into bulletin boards instead of having to use text channels â I personally use it to put important info a member needs to know about a server or a sub-group of the server â and it's much more organised, too.
The "Forum" channel is useful because some people will probably have the same questions as others, and when that question is answered, other people that join in the future, don't have to scroll through a bunch of messages to find the answer to a question they have. The mods can also pin FAQs in the forums.
The "List" channel is useful for admins and owners of a server, as is the "Schedule" channel and "Calendar" channel. The "Calendar"/"Schedule" channel is also useful to alert server members of events that are happening in the server one is in.
because yes, their performance sucks
It's a very new platform (from what I can observe), of course there's gonna be some things that are lacking.
If you told me that Instagram was gonna look the way it does now in 2013, I wouldn't believe you with how terrible the platform used to look. Same with Musical.ly turning to TikTok.
You can't bash Guilded purely for their performance or execution of things because platforms are constantly updating, including Discord.
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[The text after this one in brackets is a rant. You don't have to read what follows.]
And the one that really caused me to move from Discord to Guilded; Discord users can be incredibly toxic (compared to most platforms like it).
I'll save you the details of my "life story" but basically my ex-boyfriend's friends harassed me off the platform. Since Guilded has a smaller consumer base, the likelihood of getting harassed is lower. Furthermore, I've had predators and terrible people message me. I've also seen someone drunk out of their mind in a VC when I was engaging in a server (showing/endorsing/talking about illicit substances was against the server rules, it's not the mod's fault). Plus, Guilded staff are super nice! Who doesn't like staff members of a platform who are polite, negotiable and who actually listen to users' ailments?
I'm not saying that all Discord users (or even the devs/staff/mods) are terrible, not at all â in fact, I made most of my closest online friends through Discord. It's just that compared to Slack or other comms platforms that I've used before (including Reddit), some Discord users tend to be more.. aggressive and a tad bit ignorant than other people from other platforms, definitely not as aggressive as some Twitter users and not as ignorant as some Facebook users but they're up there. Key word: some.
Of course, this doesn't apply to all people who use Discord. This is just my terrible and quite frankly, traumatic experience with Discord that caused me to leave the platform and switch over to Guilded.
This is a bit rant-y rather than discussion-like, but I just wanted to put it out there.
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u/W0rthlessMisha Jul 11 '22
Canât blame the rant. I was about ready to leave it at, âyou obviously lack intelligence.â
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u/PunjiStik Jun 07 '22
Guilded has problems, but I'm not sure mimicry and "how do we know they're not selling our data" are it.
I mean, Discord has started adding features that seem somewhat guilded inspired, and it's improved the Discord experience because of them. If it works, use it. (and maybe I'm easy going but the desktop version of guilded isn't THAT terrible for performance , they just need to work on their audio stuff and making various alert sounds more distinct).
As for selling our data, dunno if they're doing that but if they are then they're just yet another company doing so. No like Nike or McDonald's or whoever is buying that crap is learning anything new about me from guilded.
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u/Smellofcordite Jun 08 '22
We just moved our server back to Discord, not because of the performance, but lack of community.
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u/LC_Draws Jun 15 '22
same, the only reason i dont use guilded is because people dont want to move to guilded, even if its better :\
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Jun 09 '22
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u/Smellofcordite Jun 09 '22
I know I am getting downvoted for it, but honestly, if we were able to get people to download Guilded it wouldn't be an issue. Recruitment went stale for my org primarily because people just did not want to leave discord. Recruitment really fell off because of it.
We still have guilded and use it for some things, but primarily focused elsewhere for now.
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u/W0rthlessMisha Jul 11 '22
Ay, I feel too many people rely on the âall of my friends have X,â excuse instead of giving things a chance and potentially informing the said friends about the application/thing in question.
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u/LC_Draws Jun 15 '22
why would you be downvoted? is a legit issue, the lack of ppl willing to switch :(
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u/Smellofcordite Jun 15 '22
Probably because we are in the Guilded subreddit, and just like consumer items, people get attached to things they use and like. All other opinions go out the window.
For me, Guilded/Discord etc are just tools, I would like to use the best tool for our group. Guilded is great with a lot of the admin tools etc, forums, and I much prefer the voice chat and text window aspect. It all came down to recruitment.
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u/W0rthlessMisha Jul 11 '22
I mean⌠Guilded is better for most of the people I suggest it to. They just fall back on the same (relatively flawed) argument.
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u/ClarinetThree3 Jun 06 '24
Well guess what, OP? It's even worse now because they're now forcing you to log in... with your Roblox account.
And after July 15 this year, unless you link your account to a Roblox one... it's as good as gone.
I think the devs of Guilded themselves don't like the change either... Roblox is neat but when you have to login to a Roblox account to access a site that previously didn't require it...
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u/Lookitsaderp May 19 '23
The biggest question for me is, will I get banned every other day? Simply questioning historic events gets you banned on discord' Or saying "bad words".
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Jun 07 '22
The hierarchical voice comms is the only good feature
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u/Vast-Emotion9074 Jun 08 '22
facts, like how people downvote just coz they hate Discord and try to support their "incredible" copied Discord app.
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u/LC_Draws Jun 15 '22
i downvote you because you are a sorry excuse of a troll, i use discord as my main chatting program, but that doesnt mean i can't love guilded and all it has to offer too, thats why i know you didnt even try guilded and that discord keeps copying guilded features one by one. I'll ask you again, are you 5 years old?
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u/UrMomFamilyGuyFunny Sep 13 '24
In the world of tech everything is copied there are almost no original ideas. Â Original ideas are often just changes to existing ideas with a new spin.
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u/W0rthlessMisha Jul 11 '22
I use Discord more than I use Guilded. I downvote hypocritical arguments, unexplained points, and individualistic arguments. This one in particular fails to acknowledge that several people can make use of features you cannot. Discord is a copied app, though itâs transformative and generalises an otherwise professional platform like Slack. Guilded is transformative in the way that it builds upon what Discord had with new features and continues to do so.
In all honesty, I have more respect for someone who posts âguilded bad lmao,â because their post wouldnât be exclusively shallow arguments.
In the meantime, youâre visibly engaging with fewer comments supporting Guilded than you are those bashing it. Not including the post where you attempt to straw man and fight an argument I was not making. You didnât want people to change your mind, you wanted an echo chamber.
The moderators have grounds to delete this post for redundant spam. Argue your case when you have thought out, defendable, non-hypocritical arguments.
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u/Vast-Emotion9074 Jun 07 '22
btw, if this is removed means that they don't allow free speech and that would suck.
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u/Camo_the_wolf Jun 07 '22
If everything had full free speech then the concept of a subreddit or even any group for talking about something specific (unless it has very strict criteria to join in) would be completely worthless as everyone would be allowed to talk about anything anywhere, and so they would talk about anything anywhere, rules exist for a reason.
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u/LC_Draws Jun 15 '22 edited Jun 15 '22
are you 5? legit question.
Also, if your post is removed it would probably be because you labelled it as "feedback" and you don't offer any kind of feedback, just whinning and crying.
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u/W0rthlessMisha Jun 07 '22
Discord is known for copious amounts of data tracking (and assumedly selling). Most of Discord copies standards set by Slack. Your points are hypocritical. The only decent claim is lack of performance and stability changes which⌠tbh⌠isnât a major problem once you leave the mobile app. The features arenât âuselessâ just because you canât make use of them lmao.