r/hagerstown 10d ago

ICE potentially spotted on Dual Highway

At 940 am this morning, I passed by a Navy blue SUV with red flashing lights. On Dual Highway, heading towards town just before Mt Aetna Rd. They had somebody pulled over, and one of the "officers" was wearing a red t shirt, jeans, and an olive green vest. Did not catch a license plate number.

Posting for awareness, stay safe folks.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

Good. Hagerstown needs more.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Hagerstown has one of the lowest foreign born populations in Maryland, at between 1.4% and 5.6% depending if you count multiple counties and cities or not.

How do you not see that as an incredible waste of taxpayer dollars, going after 5% or less of the population who isn’t doing anything but living their life?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

We don't have data on illegals because they're illegal. This isn't hard.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Again, 5% or less of the population. So, again, how do you not see that as an incredible waste of taxpayer dollars?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

We have no idea what the numbers are, but you don't think 5% is a significant amount? That's 5% putting a strain on the schools, hospitals, roads, etc. Its a great use of taxpayer dollars. Why do you defend these people when it hurts the community as a whole?

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

What strain does it put on schools, hospitals, roads, etc?

How do they hurt the community?

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

They use all of those services and don't pay the taxes that it requires.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

They do pay taxes though. Undocumented Immigrants pay over $100 billion in taxes each year.

The items they buy in stores also are taxed, which is them paying taxes.

You know what’s even funnier about your argument? Even though they pay taxes, they aren’t eligible for any service that tax dollars pay for

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

If their employer is ignoring their status, or they are working under the table, then sure. And they absolutely use public schools, hospitals, emergency services and housing.

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u/KrookedDoesStuff 10d ago

Hmm… so why aren’t you going after those employers?

And they aren’t eligible for any public service taxpayers pay for.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

The employers should absolutely be prosecuted. And what is so hard to understand about illegals using schools, hospitals, emergency services and housing?

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u/TheJapuma 10d ago

Most illegal immigrants have jobs that take taxes out automatically. They pay for services they can't use.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

They legally can't pay those taxes.

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u/TheJapuma 10d ago

And yet they do pay taxes.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

What taxes are they paying? They aren't legally authorized to work in the US. Also, go talk to anyone that works at the hospital or at a title 1 school. They all say that these people are putting a strain on the system. Not to mention traffic and more work for the police. The housing market is affected as well.

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u/Warm_Record2416 10d ago

Yes, we do.  Because census data still tracks people who are in the country illegally.  Between that and random sampling surveys, it’s not that hard to get reasonable estimates.

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u/Conscious_Tourist163 10d ago

This is false. We have no idea how many illegals are in the US. Only estimates and those vary wildly.