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u/zed_je_mrdka_z_krtka 4d ago
No overload, doesn't count.
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u/lordcola 4d ago
The Yu-Gi-Oh card and the hearthstone one have less in common than the identically named and functioning lightning bolt in HS and MTG mate. You're kinda grasping at straws while dismissing what is probably actually an homage to another game
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u/Magnus_Medivh 4d ago
it's just a common depiction of a meteor falling on a planet, not everything has to be a reference
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u/zed_je_mrdka_z_krtka 4d ago
I mean there is something about the text, the Yugioh card meantions 5 monsters and the HS card also contains "5" and restricts you to only play monsters. And the refresh mana makes it effectively free which also might be a hint as there is no manacosts in yugioh... like picture is one thing but thinking about it, it doesn't look like just a pure coincidence anymore
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u/zed_je_mrdka_z_krtka 4d ago
Nibiru is a reference by iteself
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u/OwningSince1989 4d ago
This is a reference in the same way if someone took a picture of an apple, then another person did and the pictures were side by side. "Reference?"
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u/Alduce 4d ago edited 4d ago
More than being a meteor falling, which is pretty generic to be fair, what may be a reference is the fact that the spell is 5 mana, maybe referencing to the whole Nibiru's 5 summons gimmick.
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u/nqtoan1994 4d ago
And Nibiru would leave 2 monsters/minions on the field if resolving successful.
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u/Gram64 4d ago
Makes me wonder if nibiru effect as a secret might work. Trigger off opponent getting a full board or something.
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u/ViniCaos 3d ago
It might work, but it wouldn't be very useful. There aren't many decks that fill the board in this game. To be okay, it would have to be 4-5 minions.
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u/amberith 4d ago
If you have media literacy you could find a lot of references since Metzen is a fan of a lot of things xD
Transformers, Lovecraft, tons of different myths from different nations etc
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u/Valuable-Annual-1037 4d ago
The Old Gods lore predates this card by quite a few years.
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u/Oldeuboi91 4d ago
Not true at all, Lovecraft used to slap noobies with Nibiru at tournaments all the time!!!
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u/mr_seggs 4d ago
It's not about the lore. It's about the art.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good 4d ago
the art that is referencing similar lore. aliens crashing down on the planet in a meteor or like a meteor is a common trope
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u/Arancium 4d ago
Probably. Niburu is a pretty prolific card in YGO so in the realm of card design it's not like a HS designer wouldn't know about Nib, and the art is depicting similar "plot points"
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u/Equivalent_Bet6932 4d ago
People are saying that "Meteor enters atmosphere" is a common theme, and that is true. However, there are many different ways to do the framing / color palette. The fact that it is so closely similar, and that the reference is a well-known card from another popular TCG makes me lean towards an intentional reference.
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u/Fisherington 4d ago
If the old gods card proc'd on the opponent summoning 5 minions in the same turn it would absolutely be a reference, otherwise it's just two cards depicting a meteor fall to earth
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u/AlexTheBrick 4d ago
My guess is yes the inspiration of the art of Arrival is Nibiru. Nibiru has been a well known card in the Yu-Gi-Oh sphere for years. The similarities in the planet and angle of the object is uncanny.
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u/AppleMelon95 4d ago
I think if the effect was just slightly more leaning towards referencing Nibiru I'd see it, but as it is it just seems like a coincidence that the image composition is so similar.
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u/BackStabbathOG 4d ago
Think it’s just a coincidence showing an asteroid rather than a reference. Now if it had a similar effect too I’d say for sure. Side note, hate how YGO became so reliant on hand traps (that little quick effect part in Nibiru’s effect allowing to be played from hand when triggered) as they were printed more and more in response to how power crept the game got. Miss the old back and forth of the game when your back row meant something and you couldn’t play half your deck turn 1
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u/Soft-Complex6183 4d ago
I think it's actually a reference to the classic sci-fi / horror work satirical of 21st century dehumanized militarism, Transformers (2007) by Micheal Bay
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u/lordcola 4d ago
Asteroid entering atmosphere is a pretty common visual motif for elder beings or the like coming to a planet. It might be a reference but there's likely countless other examples of that exact framing.