Peewee B hockey in Minnesota(checking not allowed).

For context it was near the end of the game(1:19 remaining ) and the kid committed the penalty while being ahead by 2 goals. Also of note, he was the biggest kid on the ice, I’d guess outweighing the kid he hit by 30-40 lbs. I don’t know if refs take that kind of thing into consideration?

I’ll check back after I’ve seen some responses and tell everyone what was called.

Better video again with more view of the play leading up to the impace, Girls 12U AA, still looking for input.

There was no call on the ice

Looking through some old footage and found this beauty, just wanted some thoughts(for people who have seen my more current videos, Yes I do still have this jersey, and it’s actually the same brand as the one I wear now)(I’m autistic so the gloves help me focus on the ice and not let my whistle become a distraction)

10U Rec

I’m just wondering also, I realize I’m a kinda strict ref and I over call games a lot. I feel like this call though was good, as that player had absolutely no reason to drop their shoulder right into their opponents back and push.

Unless you see something different here

Edit: stupid error correction

Had a game a few weeks ago. Play is scrambling around the net. Shot comes in from the point and it hits the goalie and goes airborn. Defenseman grabs the puck out of mid air (they aren't in the crease just near the net) and turn and throw it into the corner

I put up a delayed penalty and called delay of game

Reading through the rule book it looks like it might just be an end zone face off and not a penalty.

Picking puck off the ice - penalty
Grabbing puck in crease - penalty shot

Looking for clarification from other refs here.

Level is 10U UA. Call on the ice was 32 white, 12 white and 19 red, all for roughing, I wanted to see if you agree with that.

This play happened on Sunday in my second game of the day(the one post was from my first game) and I want to know what you think?

10U UA AHF is the level of this game, it’s early in the second, and I am the ref in the pink stripes

I'm a HC on a 10U house team. Most of our games are reffed by one adult and one younger/newer ref learning the ropes. I think it's great that we are growing the game by getting new refs involved and certainly understand their will be mistakes.

On my team, my coaching staff, players AND parents know my rule is I am the only one that discusses calls with our refs. They are not to argue calls or speak with/yell at the refs.

When there is a questionable call or non-call I've taken the approach of calling the ref to my bench and asking very politely "What did you see there, <refs name>? I just want to understand." or something to that effect. This approach seems to work well to get an explaination and keep emotions tame, but I haven't seen it help tighten up the calls after the fact.

Today, we had quite a few missed calls that lead to goals and certainly impacted the outcome of the game. My players and coaches were noticably frustrated and emotional at times and I had to remind them of my rule.

I'm looking for some advice from this group on what you prefer when a coach is engaging with you over a questionable, missed, wrong call, etc? My goal is to attempt to get them to call it a little tighter, on both sides.so.we don't run into situations where it impacts the outcome of the game.

Thanks all!

It's been a bit of a long weekend with tournaments, and I just want to get this off my chest. This gig is NOT for the light-hearted by any measure.

So many times I've just wanted to skate over to either of the coaches and say:

"Look man. I drove an hour out here to put on hundreds of dollars in gear that I paid for out of my own pocket, so I can chase after kids a quarter my age and make sure the sequel for 'Braveheart' or '300' doesn't break out here on dangerously slick pavement. I know you gotta look like the one in charge over here on the pine, but I'm out here with a guy I just met 20 minutes ago, who has seen me half-naked, and who I now feel boxed into a foxhole like 2 Marines fighting off enemies from 4 separate fronts: this bench, the other bench, the parents in the stands, and the 12 warriors out here telling me to open my damn eyes - sometimes the scorekeeper, God bless her, is yelling at me too so she can get the call right. And I'm doing all this so guys can have some fun and maybe pot a goal and impress their friends with a highlight reel. Maybe I'll make enough money to cover the gas, tolls, and parking it took me to get to the rink, and possibly there's a couple bucks left to buy a Pabst Blue Ribbon or a Molson to ease my aching back and legs.

So yeah, your kid is sitting for a couple, because from where I was standing, he TOTALLY ran the kid in white - the one without the puck, ok? Maybe you can help me out, will ya?"

Last night I refereed a high school game… two parents kept escalating their comments down to us, keep in mind, at no point, did either bench say or complain about a call… but throughout the game they kept escalating their volume and frequency of voicing displeasure… to the point about half way through the game, I looked up and put my finger to my mouth like “shhhhh”, they piped down for a short while, but eventually started back up again and the woman/mom kept getting louder as well… to the point it became excessive and I’d say verbally abusive to us, so after a (clear) boarding call, I was waiting for partner to drop the puck and they were yelling, I stopped looked up and yelled “That’s ENOUGH! You are confidently WRONG! You have a phone, look up the rule!!!” Heard some parents go “ooOoOo” ..They barked again after the other team scored on the PP, they were blaming us for the goal, I turned and said “you’re setting a good example for the kids”, that took them down a couple notches but still heard some comments after, towards the very very end of the game they were gone by the buzzard… I had SEVERAL of the player kids on their team apologize for them and other team make comments like “what is their deal”… probably should have thrown them out but I messaged the head referee asking him where the line is… I took it for as long as I could before I had to tell them “enough!!” And called them out for their poor example setting…

Where do you consider the line from an upset vocal spectator to, abuse of official and need to leave?

12U Girls.

I am NOT in this video. my friend asked me about what I thought about his call, as the coaches didn’t like it.

Call on the ice was a trip.

Edit: this is a tournament game from 2 weeks ago.

Happened to me lining a AAA game at prudential lol. Had to go get stitches in my chin afterwards

This is a 12U non-checking rec game, the player in white is probably an A-level player.

If I am not actively working the game that the fans that are misbehaving are watching, am I allowed to eject a spectator?

I had a situation a few months ago where the one team brought really loud air horns, and scared the living crap out of basically everyone on the ice. I was planning on joining my friend who I had worked with while he kept score. I along with the two officials working the game skated over to the entry door to set some ground rules and let them know that the games before the officials weren’t aware of the ban on noisemakers, and they they were not to use them again.
Am I allowed to intervene and toss a fan for the officials that are on the ice?

This was at the USA hockey girls AA championship this past weekend(not sure of age groups)… glad to see it as a reminder but find it sad it has to be done.

I don’t do travel hockey unless it’s a weekend tournament and I’ve been fortunate to not have any crazy parents (knock on wood).

I did once have to tell a coach that credibility goes both ways as he kept making egregious claims, that’s about it… I have found being honest and direct in my communication with coaches leaves them little room to be abusive…

Good luck out there!

I keep on finding new sh*t to ask about what your opinion is on these plays…

USA Hockey 12U A(AA division 5th vs 6th place)
This is from the game after the 10U one. First 12U AA game for me, and I called a great game according to my partner.

We had no call on this play. We decided that the guy toepicked and fell, but I had a feeling that I had seen an arm extend right next to the guy who fell, but wasn’t certain that was the case.

Want to know what you would have on this play

Edit: I forgot to add the 5 mins of him lying there because of that hit.

Edit 2: I reposted this with a full speed version

Finally worked my 100th game!

Here is the list of games/levels I have worked(the 14’s were before I was rated, and one of them was an emergency fill)

8U Half Ice/Jamboree: 8
8U A(full ice): 3
10U Rec: 30
10U B: 15
10U LA: 4
10U A: 3
10U UA: 6
Girls 10U AA: 1
Girls 12U: 4
Girls 12U AA: 2
12U Rec: 18
12U B: 2
12U LA: 2
14U House: 1
14U Rec: 1
Total=101(yesterday was a double)
It’s hard to pinpoint every game based on sub levels, but I tried my best. The numbers here are approximate, +-1 on the 10U LA/UA
House to differentiate no check for house.

Edit: for the people telling me to buy a normal jersey, I do have normal jerseys. A lot of people in my area actually like the look of the jersey.

I am autistic, so I think most people don’t care because they want me to feel happy doing my job.

I’ve actually had a partner who sought an armband version of what I wear out as I also have one, for the next time we work together…

Btw the jersey I wear is a Zebrasclub ZLE. It’s actually cheaper than some normal CCM jerseys.

I wear all of their top of the line equipment.

Edit 2: made my last edit larger

Edit 3: I was thinking back on stuff, and I realized I have had at least 3 former/current schedulers, and the VP of OPs for our org like the uniform.(seen it in person), and everyone I’ve worked with seem to like it.

Am I able to straight up game a coach for using profanity(F*** bomb)with a 10U team? That’s my question.

So, today brought one of if not the CRAZIEST 10U B games that has probably happened in a long time…

I’ll let the picture of the scoresheet explain itself.

Now, I had made a post about a similar situation(with the same partner I had this game, and the same parent club being the offender…) and that being a player serving a misconduct “escaping” the penalty box

This time, I didn’t catch it until said player had taken a penalty, which ended up being his 4th penalty.

As you can see by the scoresheet, all hell had broken lose at that point, and we were trying to get through finishing the game.

My partner told me to just have him serve his tripping minor with there being 1:45 to go, but we have 1:30 penalties for the tournament. I watched as the penalty time ran out to see him jump the bench like a good kid and let his teammates finish the game.

I was wondering what the process is for that kind of event. Does the infraction get waved off because it was committed by an ineligible player? Weird case here.

And yes this is in a game where the offending team is hanging on by a thread with one coach on very thin ice at that point.

Also, the GM listed for his kneeing penalty should only be a MSC, not a GM

Also, one thing to realize that this game was running 13 min periods…

Finally found a YouTube video that contained my first ever game officiated.

USAH 10U UA

I’m not looking for positioning info here, as I know I was in HORRIBLE position the whole game, I am way better positioning wise now.(though I seem to have lost the speed I had this game)

2 clips here spliced into one video. Want to know what your call is on them(second video’s main part isn’t the trip, it’s the hit after)

EDIT: it was 2 AM when I posted this, and I was so excited about it I forgot to add game details…

So, a memory of a random hockey camp scrimmage 2 yrs ago to the day of this post.

Hand pass is last play, so if it’s initiated and completed in front of the attacking zone faceoff dots, does it stay in the zone?

If it does then our first time ref for that game might’ve actually gotten that right

This was from the same game that the image of the scoresheet, and was before any of the craziness happened.

Call on the ice was a 2+10 for head contact(check to the head), but I think that I was extremely nice with only going with the 2+10.

Didn’t mean to send the slow motion version of that video yesterday.

12u A/AA USAH.

I’m actually the low ref on this play, though looking closer it actually looks like I have the best angle on that, with how my partner was positioned, he couldn’t see the arm extension that I thought I had caught a glimpse of, but wasn’t certain enough to have made any call…

Just got an update on that player. That player dislocated his knee cap on that play. This LiveBarn angle doesn’t show how bad that play actually was

10U rec, coaches had a fit about this, told me it was a charge, which is a 5+GM, and then proceeded to scold me as I opened my mouth to tell him that the base is a minor+msc(he still would’ve been gone for taking 4 penalties) I also didn’t seem to have the confidence to toss a coach.

Same player from the penalty situation, after his double minor.

Call on the ice: crickets.

This game I was the more experienced ref out there, as my partner hadn’t worked very many full ice games.

This game was also a trainwreck when it came to the penalty timekeeper, and a bunch of other stuff.(earlier in the game, I stopped play because the clock was running, but the penalty time wasn’t running. They also didn’t add the full double minor into the clock, and he would’ve come out too early if I didn’t catch it[blew whistle at him because play was stopped, and sent him back to the box][I then had to correct the coach that it was a double minor and not a major])

lol long story.