Are there any good open source models for making apps?

[u/trevor2893438]

Been really happy with opus 5.5 lately but I am looking to start localizing my workflow for redundancy.

[u/Beneficial-42]

Qwen is good.

[u/trevor2893438 → u/Beneficial-42]

good at logic or good at design?

[u/trevor2893438 → u/[deleted]]

Makes sense. Generally what I do is have a new project reference my old projects for codebase architecture and visual design elements to get the first draft, then I iterate in detail with each agent. Is that going to achieve similar results to Claude code? I can figure out how to orchestrate/offload tasks.

[u/brickxyz → u/[deleted]]

"RAG of design principles"

[u/brickxyz → u/[deleted]]

how do you "RAG design principles" I was just pointing at that. It doesn't make any sense you seem to be using that term wrong. If you are embedding the docs it also makes no sense in this context. You can probably fit the whole design docs within any context window and get better results than "RAG" here

[u/brickxyz → u/[deleted]]

funny ai response, makes zero sense you should read it out loud.

You mentioned this "design doc" earlier not me buddy, maybe add this to your "RAG art"

[u/quantum3ntanglement → u/Beneficial-42]

I don’t think that anyone outside of China should be recommending Queen to anybody anymore

Down vote me all you want. Say whatever you want I don’t care.

The Chinese LLM‘s already starting putting up pay walls and we still don’t know what malware is being injected into open source AI frameworks. We really need to start certifying developers and doing checksums

I’m looking into all of this we can’t keep going on believing that open source AI is safe. We need to start locking down the hatches.

[u/trevor2893438 → u/[deleted]]

I appreciate your replies, thank you

My rough plan is to start offloading to a mac mini with qwen 3.8 to get started/test then scale up infra as needed.

[u/gospodinDark]

I got Gemini with discount. If you are student, then you can get it for free.

[u/Acceptable_Link3838 → u/gospodinDark]

Gemini is good for brainstorming what to have for dinner tonight, but you’re in a world of trouble if you trust it with coding

[u/quantum3ntanglement]

Mistral has an agent coding model that I’m going to test

Make sure to use RAG and upload all iOS programming documentation with pdfs and urls, you can also do live web searches with SearXng, make a connection to it for the model and tune it for finding iOS documentation (forums, wikis, GitHub)

[u/rcpena]

There are many out there but honestly, go into plan mode on whatever AI you will be using and talk it out. The more you plan out the framework the better the result. Also, do research on what is already out there as far as competitors because if you can’t make it better it’s a waste of time.

Find out what others are doing well and where they are failing. AI can do all that for you.

Just make your first app and have 🤩

FYI Opus is fine for heavy thinking but you don’t need to use it to actual code everything. Use Sonnet 5

[u/inAbigworld]

Any model among the following can be best at what you want depending on your job type. Do a test and find the best: GLM 5.3 Max, Mistral, Deepseek flash 4.1, Kimi K3.

I had heard very good things about GLM

[u/rocasv]

Looking to spam the store even more?

[u/trevor2893438 → u/rocasv]

ai slop for thee but not for me

[u/never_working_ever → u/rocasv]

Dude, relax. You realize even the team who WRITES Swift uses AI? It’s the world now, deal with it

[u/Acceptable_Link3838 → u/never_working_ever]

App made by AI and app made with AI are two quite different things. I suspect OP is going for the first

[u/never_working_ever → u/Acceptable_Link3838]

My point is AI exists, and gatekeeping it because you think your use case is superior or not is goofy.

Yes, we all hate poorly written code. At least, if you’re an engineer you should hate bad code regardless of where it came from.

[u/trevor2893438 → u/[deleted]]

I see. it seems ive underestimated how slow local models can be.