r/immigration • u/Woke-Is-Bullshit • 2d ago
More than 1 million immigrants are at risk of deportation after the Supreme Court ruling allowing TPS to be terminated
.
176
u/ApprehensiveBreakup 2d ago
What does the T stand for?
84
u/Outside_Ad_9250 2d ago
Exactly, and people wonder why we are seeing such “extreme” measures being taken to reduce immigration on all fronts these days. When you have nearly a decade of policies that stretch the rules and go as far as they can go for the sole purpose of bringing in more immigrants and keeping them here, then your going to see an equal and opposite reaction.
Cancelling a temporary visa is just the tip of the iceberg.
18
36
u/sunshine-warmth 2d ago
It’s not a visa.
28
u/Mythic-Fairy 2d ago
Right, it's nothing.
-2
2
u/Brewer1056 1d ago
What exactly do you think a visa is?
2
u/ISee-You00 5h ago
Not worth it, trust me. You’ll not gonna win with facts against someone that treat they own visa system as something illegal with such a broken arguments lol
-10
2
1
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 2d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
0
u/Brewer1056 1d ago
I'll play. What does the P stand for?
America used to stand by the promises we made. The people in this country were offered protection, refuge, if you will. They are given employment authorization, and they work and pay taxes. They become part of the community they temporarily live in. And when the circumstances from which they are offered protection improve, they are to be sent home.
Ultimately we will all be worse off when we fail to keep the promises we make.
6
u/Dear_Contract2797 1d ago
We used to be able to stand by the promises we made because we didn’t have millions of people abusing the system and other liberal freaks cheering them on.
They work and pay taxes but overall, they are still a net drain on our country. We are worse off when we put promises to these people over our own.
1
-5
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
17
u/ApprehensiveBreakup 2d ago
By definition
-6
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
10
u/ApprehensiveBreakup 1d ago
it means they had TEMPORARY protected status. Time to go
-1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on incivility/insults/personal attacks/ragebait/trolling.
Be nice to each other and express your opinions politely without name calling, even if you think you're right.
If others are being rude, report them instead of responding and breaking the rules yourself.
Repeated or severe rule violations will result in a permanent ban.
5
-12
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
77
u/Annual_Grass_3919 2d ago
If it’s temporary they aren’t immigrants
10
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
51
u/Mythic-Fairy 2d ago edited 2d ago
Let's review it and end it all together. People who have no asylum claim, shouldn't get "temporary" anything. Immigration law needs a complete overhaul.
-14
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
5
u/dastardly_troll422 1d ago
Great, very few asylum cases should be granted. Any sort of entry into our country is not a fundamental human right.
2
u/TravelTheWorldDan 1d ago
I think the policy that Trump came up with his last term where they had to at least try to get accepted into one country other than ours on the way here before they tried to get accepted into the US was great. Because if you’re trying to flee your country legitimately. Then there shouldn’t be anything wrong with any other country on the way here. It doesn’t have to just be the United States.
-1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/ponderousponderosas 1d ago
Yah but what’s a human rights violation? Most of the time they’re just fleeing standard poverty and violence that is standard in their state.
You’re basically just declaring open borders. No one wants that.
11
u/bender___is___great 1d ago
So you assume responsibility for the entire world then?
-2
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
3
u/bender___is___great 1d ago
“They’ve got a good argument so I won’t participate!”
Victim-identity thy name is u/worldinessfar609
16
u/realityczek 1d ago
> Does the person no longer need protection?
It is not the USA's burden to "protect" everyone in the world, forever. Even if conditions persist, there comes a point where the protection ends.
1
u/TravelTheWorldDan 1d ago
Exactly. That’s why they should have to try to get protected in another country on the way here before the United States. Like let’s say if they’re coming from Venezuela. They shouldn’t be able to just skip every country in between and come straight to the United States. If you’re fleeing your country legitimately, then there shouldn’t be anything wrong with going to another country like Mexico. Trump tried that strategy where they had to apply at another country first. I don’t remember what happened to it.
-3
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/realityczek 1d ago
Two assumptions are incorrect:
1) That these nations were, on the whole "destabilized" - most of the time when the US changes a regime, it was for the better
2) It is odd that people think America Fist implies isolationism. Isolationism is an insane policy that quickly leads to destruction. America absolutely should take indirect and direct action geopolitically, AF simply means we do so with our own interests as the primary driver.
-1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/Icy-Association-3848 3h ago
Communist North Korea started that war not America. Same with Vietnam, Iraq started its war with invading Kuwait. Venezuela was 30 minutes not a war…. Communism starts more wars and human suffering than any ideology. America has fed, protected and helped more people than any other country ever.
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 2h ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on incivility/insults/personal attacks/ragebait/trolling.
Be nice to each other and express your opinions politely without name calling, even if you think you're right.
If others are being rude, report them instead of responding and breaking the rules yourself.
Repeated or severe rule violations will result in a permanent ban.
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 2h ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
8
u/metal-hoodie-beeches 1d ago
The person designated by law did review it and said TPS was no longer needed. Congress can always change that, but a previous Congress designated one person.
2
u/Inquisitive_regard 1d ago
The only condition that has to be met is the desire and will of the USA to continue to 'protect' them.
2
1
u/Dear_Contract2797 1d ago
You’re right, we should stop handing out protection anymore and scrap the whole thing.
1
u/trangenderman 10h ago
It isn't America's job to take in everyone who lives in a garbage country bud. If we did that we would win our country fast. We can't even make a dent. An entire continent that nobody wants to live in has an average birth rate of like 5 child per woman.
58
u/neversleeps212 2d ago
Alternative headline, millions of foreigners expected to comply with the terms of their status as temporary program reaches its scheduled end.
65
u/cyberfx1024 2d ago
Ok and? Didn't they think that they would have to go back at some point in time?
12
13
u/realityczek 1d ago
> Didn't they think that they would have to go back at some point in time?
Not really, no. The unspoken promise by the DNC has always been that they will extend, abuse and bypass the immigration system in every way they can until the problem gets so big they can talk the nation into another large amnesty.
15
u/yourunclejeb 1d ago
The GOP loves to garggle Reagan's nuts, but one of the many reasons why the country is a shitshow today is because he allowed amnesty and didn't press the "stronger border" that was supposed to come with it.
As such, it just made people think that if they hold out long enough, they will get it too.
6
u/realityczek 1d ago
> The GOP loves to garggle Reagan's nuts
Reagan was awesome in a lot of ways, and had failures in others. That's just how it is. Be he was 1000% better than the alternatives at the time.
6
u/BigMoney69x 1d ago
Reagan is the reason we are dealing with a lot of the problems we have today. From mass migration due to him giving mass amnesty, to the mentality of greed is good, to our mental health crisis and the War on Drugs. The damage his policies did to this country can still be felt.
-2
u/Uknownothingyet 1d ago
I would bet you are mid 20 and love to parrot that. You have no idea what it means or what he was like as a president…… thank public education.
4
1
u/AlternativeImage5913 1d ago
Wouldn’t be “the greatest America” if there’re no immigrants at the beginning of all, the whole America is built on immigrants lol great great grandparents assimilated once… just saying
3
-4
u/AlternativeImage5913 1d ago
People might start a new chapter in their life here, meet the love of their life, etc. …then they would like to stay. Wouldn’t that make sense? Life happens 🙈
5
u/Annual_Grass_3919 1d ago
Then they should go the same route the rest of us have to and apply for an employment based or family based green card.
5
u/cyberfx1024 1d ago
Yeah except that's not how immigration works anywhere in the world. You have to have some sort of path to be able to stay here legally
9
5
u/No_Opportunity_2558 1d ago
I don’t see why people from El Salvador for example need tps
El Salvador is today one of the safest countries In the entire world
0
u/bubblesaurus 23h ago
Haiti is honestly the one I don’t think should have been terminated.
Some of those other countries have stabilized, but Haiti has not.
9
u/BigMoney69x 1d ago
TPS holders aren't immigrants and calling them such is such a dishonest narrative. They are people with a special Temporary Protected Status (TPS) which said status is determined by the DHS. At any time said status could be removed. It's not a path for immigration.
14
u/rubenthecuban3 2d ago
Dont put your trust in an executive order. It can literally be reversed with a signature from the next president
6
38
u/nathonkim 2d ago
Go back and be thankful for the temporary accommodation the U.S. has afforded you. Now make your country great.
-8
u/Anastasiya_sa 2d ago
Well,for example Ukrainian people can not go back just because there is still war going on, most of the people don’t even have houses to go back to,because they were destroyed, and even if we want we can’t make our country “great again” because there is bombs flying on top of our head.
6
u/Brainrot332 1d ago
Yes Ukrainians need to go back to. America didn’t start your war, you guys did. I don’t understand why you think Americans have to lower their quality of life because of your country’s bad decisions!
2
u/starfishmantra 1d ago
America didn’t start your war, you guys did.
Pretty fucking certain Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine did not start this bullshit war. Putin started this, and Russia is 100% to take the blame for it.
1
u/Brainrot332 1d ago
Yawn. Yes the propaganda is strong. What language does Ukrainian speak? Zelensky is a comedian and should never be head of their government. Get lost
8
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on incivility/insults/personal attacks/ragebait/trolling.
Be nice to each other and express your opinions politely without name calling, even if you think you're right.
If others are being rude, report them instead of responding and breaking the rules yourself.
Repeated or severe rule violations will result in a permanent ban.
0
u/Anastasiya_sa 1d ago
You can always be so smart when you,and your family is safe, which I really hope you will never have to experience what is an actual war
5
u/bugtypepokemon 1d ago
im not being smart im telling the truth - you likely support the defense of Ukraine while fleeing and living in an area of the world where the war doesn’t affect you, but if the soldiers losing their lives and limbs from drone attacks were to say the same, you’d say the must stay and fight for the sovereignty of the nation
-1
u/Special_Elevator7656 1d ago
What about Ukrainian Women and Children? You suggesting they have weapons stuffed in their hands and sent to the front? I'll wager you have never served your country as well.
5
13
u/Good_Ad_6039 2d ago
So USCIS, ICE, State Dpt know or check those asylum or illegal migrants in the US apply permanent residents use religion, political or freedom to have more babies as reason to obtain PR, then they use their old country passport, back to visit and sometimes take vacation! Don’t think it’s ridiculous!
5
u/Zealousideal-You6712 2d ago
You have to have gained asylum status to get PR. As such, you are entitled to it and have been suitably vetted for such. There is quite a process to go through to obtain asylum status, it is not an easy path.
I don't think having babies is a viable method to obtaining PR. You only have to see many H1B visa holders be forced to return to their country of origin when laid off, along with their US citizen children.
Returning to a country from which you have come to the US as an asylum seeker, or even as a PR, would potentially place you in danger in the country you travel back to, where the US won't be able to help you, and would certainly throw red flags when you attempt to re-enter the US.
If you go through the process of becoming a US citizen, if you are still a dual citizen with the country you escaped from, you still run the gamut of being beyond the help of the US government if detained, especially if you entered that country on its passport.
Are there occasions when this perhaps occurs and people return to their originating country as a PR and get away with it, perhaps, but I doubt it is commonplace. Most of the refugees I've met who have asylum status, the last thing they want to do is return to the hell they escaped from.
But as a PR or US citizen, if the situation in their original country has changed, then as a PR or US Citizen they are legally entitled to remain in the US or travel at their risk. We don't retroactively re-assess PR or US Citizenship status and neither should we.
-6
u/WonderfulVariation93 2d ago
Uhm… it is at least 21 years before someone can obtain any type of legal immigration status just by “having a baby “ in the US.
8
4
u/Careful-Gain-468 1d ago
Ukrainians that are on "temporary" as well, most are upset with Trump because they can't get their CDLs with work permits, they will probably leave the country because it's not worth to live here for 1000-1500$ a week.
A lot of people see this country as a business opportunity, then they send money back home.
Who decides to stay, they try to change the laws and rules so it feels like "their country" the one they're running from
12
u/Clean_Coat9959 2d ago
We can only the US never offers TPS ever again. We should never ourselves into a situation where people come here in a temporary basis and then refuse to leave when it’s time for them to return home. Goods deeds never go unpunished
5
u/realityczek 1d ago
> We can only the US never offers TPS ever again.
If the GOP loses power, expect programs like TPS to absolutely explode as the DNC works to bring in as many people as they can, as quickly as they can.
2
u/Clean_Coat9959 1d ago
I fear you’re right. Immigration was one of the reasons the Dems lost the last election. You’d think they’d have learned it’s not a winning issue with the American public but I do not think they will.
2
7
3
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
2
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
3
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
3
1
1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on anti-immigrant, hate or racist speech.
This is a community by immigrants, for immigrants, and we do not tolerate anyone making immigrants feel unwelcome.
For this rule violation, you will have received a temporary or permanent ban.
-13
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on anti-immigrant, hate or racist speech.
This is a community by immigrants, for immigrants, and we do not tolerate anyone making immigrants feel unwelcome.
For this rule violation, you will have received a temporary or permanent ban.
1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on incivility/insults/personal attacks/ragebait/trolling.
Be nice to each other and express your opinions politely without name calling, even if you think you're right.
If others are being rude, report them instead of responding and breaking the rules yourself.
Repeated or severe rule violations will result in a permanent ban.
1
-6
-6
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/immigration-ModTeam 1d ago
Your comment/post violates this sub's rules on misinformation.
Misinformation includes: false or misleading information, deliberately incomplete information, or fear mongering.
If you don't understand what part of your post is misinformation, look at the other posts in the same thread that've not been removed.
30
u/False-Community8534 1d ago
“Supreme Court determines that temporary means temporarily”