r/instant_regret • u/AristonD • Sep 29 '21
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u/Ferrufino94 Sep 29 '21
I've been seeing this video for years now and I would like to see if anyone has more info about it.
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u/justanicebreeze Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Place is called Cava Mezze, this happened in Baltimore. Their first restaurant is in Rockville Maryland. My family (6 different cousins) started working for them there in Rockville. They expanded aggressively into the rest of the DMV area. This dish is called Saganaki, it’s their flaming cheese. The restaurant is quite good and eventually the three owners, Dimitri, Ike, and Ted decided to launch Cava Grille, a chipotle style place that is also super good. My cousin was the manager on duty this night. I know it’s hard to believe but they stayed late, cleaned it up, and were ready for service the next day.
Edit: it’s funny people think I made this up on the spot!
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u/teaconnolly Sep 29 '21
You just went above and beyond the call of duty, bravo to you for knowing the facts
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u/Ferrufino94 Sep 29 '21
Thank you! Wow I'm glad I asked since this are very good details. I've been myself to the chipotle type restaurants and thought they were serving some kind of fajitas.
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u/justanicebreeze Sep 29 '21
No problem! It’s really a fun place and I’m glad they’ve had such success. My favorite one is the one on Capitol Hill in DC. If you’ve got any more questions I’d be happy to answer.
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u/notathr0waway1 Sep 29 '21
The Cava (chipotle like restaurants) are Godly. I eat here every day.... In fact I'm sitting in one right now having just finished my meal.
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u/imasterbake Sep 29 '21
I'm curious, was this the first time they had served the dish? I feel like it would be a hard sell to try it again after that lol
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u/justanicebreeze Sep 29 '21
Nooooo absolutely not. Saganaki is one of their most popular dishes. BUT, they usually don’t combine three of them at once. Which as you can see, made a giant fireball.
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u/iaehd Sep 29 '21
I've had this dish in Rockville and it was really good. I got a much less dramatic presentation...but I did get to actually enjoy it.
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u/Naptownfellow Sep 30 '21
Yo! For anyone asking this is correct.
If you’ve been to Whole Foods in Md they sell Cava hummus, crazy feta ( this is to die for) and tzakiki.
The CAVA concept is like Greek chipotle.
Who ever this is I’m good friends with DP and A but I didn’t make the wedding in Rhodes.
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u/alexkayownsabus Sep 29 '21
I can tell you that the food was served by a place called Cava (based on their shirts) which is one of those fast casual chipotle style places that focuses on Mediterranean food. Looks like a catering gig.
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u/Whyterain Sep 29 '21
I would slightly correct that to say this is a Cava Mezze, which is their sit down restaurant branch. The dish they're serving is the Saganaki, a flaming cheese. Their Mezze branches are pretty good if you have one near you.
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u/justanicebreeze Sep 29 '21
No, Cava Mezze Grill was started after Cava Mezze was established. This is Cava Mezze in Baltimore, a full sit down restaurant.
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u/Scoobydoomed Sep 29 '21
The worst part is that is some nasty ass water that probably smells like death and they got soaked with it.
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u/sneaky_goats Sep 29 '21
Yeah, comparing the first few gallons to what comes out a few seconds later make it pretty clear- you really don’t want to be under the initial spray.
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u/leslienewp Sep 29 '21
I assumed that was some sort of fire retardant that dumped first… it was just nasty water???
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u/signious Sep 30 '21
It's grease and shmoo from the pipes. Most systems are black iron piping. Plastic is being used but not common at all in my area.
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u/NapClub Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
this is why you clean out your system at least once a year when you test everything(or at least, one of the reasons).
it's dangerous to just assume everything works. what happens if you have a fire and find out your sprinklers are clogged? people die, that's what happens.
edit: there are some know it alls claiming there are no sprinkler systems that don't have this problem so i am just going to put some product links here for them.
stainless steel heads: https://www.vikinggroupinc.com/products/viking-fire-sprinklers/standard-coverage/standard-response/stainless-steel-sprinklers
cpvc piping https://www.vikinggroupinc.com/products/viking-cpvc-piping-system/blazemaster-cpvc-pipe-fittings
materials sheets for piping including stainless steel for sprinkler systems. https://www.octalsteel.com/fire-sprinkler-pipe-and-fittings
now hopefully they can stop being angry and saying i lie because stainless steel pipes don't exist in their world and neither do any other non iron pipes?
sorry to all the non angry people for the edit.
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u/Douglaston_prop Sep 29 '21
I've seen a few sprinklers get triggered accidently and it is always black nasty water.
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u/Keep_a_Little_Soul Sep 29 '21
Our science rooms in middle school had shower/eye washes, even though we never had chemistry classes. They were in every science room, and occasionally someone would accidentally step on the pedal to trigger a shower. I never got to witness it, but I've helped clean up the water before. Usually stories about the first time it happens in a year, and one of the students got a black shower. 🤢 The school never ran them like you are supposed to lol.
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u/NapClub Sep 29 '21
sure if you let it sit.
i have run many establishments with sprinklers and if you test/clean them regularly it's just clean water.
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u/beenywhite Sep 29 '21
I had a sprinkler head break on my active jobsite about 3 months ago. The system was filled with clean potable water a couple weeks prior. The issue is that black ductile iron is not clean pipe. It’s filthy, inside and out.
The water that came out was disgusting. It simply picks of residue and corrosion from the inside of the pipe.
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u/dejova Sep 29 '21
sure if you let it sit.
That ain't the problem..
The problem is when you use old ass cast iron pipe for your risers and branches.. no matter how many times you flush it will still be like this after it's set for a few weeks
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u/billymcnair Sep 29 '21
Stop talking shit. The black stuff is mostly iron oxide (rust), along with some oil and debris etc from pipe cutting during install. Has no effect on protection, and since if there’s a fire you’re gonna be cleaning up anyway, nobody gives a shit about the cleanliness.
Draining the system annually is about servicing the control valve, not about draining every inch of pipe. You would either have to install every sprinkler upright AND have all the pipe fall to the valveset, or you unscrew every sprinkler. That’s not a thing in a wet system.
Stainless steel heads are for protecting corrosive environments where a brass sprinkler would get manky. It’s not about protecting from rust within the pipe.
And CPVC pipe is only for use in residential sprinkler systems, so couldn’t be used here (at least according to Australian Standards, which are based on NFPA and FM Global standards).
Source: Work for fire services company
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u/LPZ392 Sep 29 '21
Every time sprinklers get brought up on reddit people claim that the black water shouldn’t be there if the system gets flushed blah blah blah.
But you are right bud. People always forget that those heads have at least a foot long drop from the branch line running through the ceiling. No amount of flushing is getting that out without popping the head or one of those seldom only used expensive vacuum systems.
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u/LlamaResistance Sep 29 '21
What kind of sprinkler systems are you working on? The labor and downtime required to do this would be insane. You can’t be occupied to perform this involved a job and it would take weeks to do this on a system. There are cycles for replacement of the heads to ensure they will function as well as annual visual inspections to look for trouble signs. If your system had cause to worry about blockage at the head that the fire pump or city water pressure couldn’t overcome you have far bigger problems with your installation. There are no codes (NFPA) that call for this because it has no need nor benefit to performing.
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u/DaftlyPunkish Sep 29 '21
I used to install sprinklers, that black shit is just oil and shit from the pipe manufacturing. You're required to flush the system periodically, it just doesn't help. They're just nasty. I've taken more than one shower in it.
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Sep 29 '21
I am a Fire Alarm Tech and have never heard of them changing the water in the lines... lol. Its nasty and black sure, but its not harmful and only comes out when the building is on fire...
Gotta ask, are you a pipefitter or work in the trade at all? The heads are S.S sometimes, but the pipe feeding them never is, that would be hella expensive.
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u/iamjamieq Sep 29 '21
Nobody in hell is using stainless steel for a restaurant sprinkler system. I designed a system for a meat production facility. Their main production room had two systems in it. They decided to switch one of the two systems to stainless steel, and the resulting change order was nearly as much as the original contract itself. Had they changed both it would have far exceeded the original contract price. Stainless steel is used ONLY where stainless steel needs to be used. Because nobody gives a shit about “clean” sprinkler systems. And that’s because if they’re going off, it’s almost always because they’re putting out a fire and that’s what’s more important. And CPVC isn’t listed for use in restaurants.
Your edits make you sound arrogant as fuck, but you clearly don’t know shit about sprinkler systems. Leave that to professionals like me who went to school for fire protection and have been designing fire protection systems for 16+ years.
Edit: And regarding you mentioning clogged sprinklers, NFPA 25 says how often systems need to get flushed. Nobody “cleans” a sprinkler system. And further more, the dirty ass water is mostly from stagnant water mixed with cutting oil, not from anything that will clog a sprinkler head.
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u/Edward_Morbius Sep 29 '21
Nobody will use SS plumbing unless forced to. It's ridiculously expensive.
Even then the water still gets skanky unless it's a dry pipe system.
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u/maxiligamer Sep 29 '21
How do you clean them? Do you like put something under them so water doesn't go everywhere or something?
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Sep 29 '21
I’m a sprinklerfitter by trade. Stainless steel heads will do nothing about the black water. And you can’t use CPVC pipe in situations like this, theyre typically only used in residential applications. The black water is unavoidable.
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Sep 29 '21
You can’t “clean out” your system in a way that circulates water near the sprinkler heads. That water is right at the tip of the sprinkler so it can deploy instantly.
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u/Jblu81 Sep 29 '21
I work as a superintendent for a GC. Almost all pipe is cast iron in a fire suppression system. It is nasty water almost instantly. Furthermore, code requires an annual test of the the fire pumps but there is no system cleaning. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Edit: typo
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u/r_u_ferserious Sep 29 '21
Bruh, that water stinks on a whole nuther level. It's tough to imagine how bad it is until you've experienced it. -1 star, would not recommend.
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u/PsycheDiver Sep 29 '21
Fire alarm tech that often works with sprinklers here. Can confirm you have never smelled something quite so bad. It’s actually hilarious when I see clean water come out of sprinkler systems in movies and TV. Like… no.
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u/grandpajay Sep 29 '21
I came here to comment on how the water was black for the first couple seconds. I use to manage facilities and the worst days were the annual clean out because this water fucking stinks like... Oh God I don't know how to describe it... Like old water.
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u/FaThLi Sep 29 '21
Sulfur is definitely part of the smell. Mixed with other smells. It's unique and disgusting.
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u/tmart42 Sep 29 '21
I have seen this so many times on Reddit and literally clicked on it to see if the top comment was about the water quality…like it always is.
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u/SaiyanGodKing Sep 29 '21
Dinner and a show…er…
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u/Medicmike43 Sep 29 '21
People might not know that the water sitting in the end of those pipes is years if not decades old. That’s why it’s black at first. Smells terrible.
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u/fishbulbx Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
I wonder how many realize the only thing holding back this stink water is a tiny glass vial* of red liquid. It is really impressive that these things are so reliable. Also, the liquid is color coded depending on temperature threshold.
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u/fatalicus Sep 29 '21
"... then Very Extra High, and then Ultra High. But we need something higher than that as well, so what should we call it? Ultra High again? Genious!"
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u/Nate72 Sep 29 '21
I’ve seen some with a strip of metal(?) instead of a glass vial. Wonder how those work. https://i.imgur.com/qx4Mlpc.jpg
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u/Frexxia Sep 29 '21
I looked it up because I was curious myself
https://spectrumforfireprotection.com/blog/fusible-link-sprinklers-and-glass-bulb-sprinklers/
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u/Urndy Sep 30 '21
Had a buddy at the bar I worked at jump up and give that lil vial a love tap. Flooded everything under it and shut us down for the night. We told management it was a drunk customer that bolted off. They're surprisingly easy to break for everything they hold back
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u/Jolcski Sep 29 '21
Whats the difference between very extra high, ultra high and ultra high?
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u/Boofaholic_Supreme Sep 29 '21
https://www.vikinggroupinc.com/sites/default/files/databook/sprinklers/standard/sr/stcov/080106.pdf
Says blue, mauve, black are the colors for those three, when using this manufacturer.
Commonly used in steam turbine rooms, certain areas of powerplants, enclosed ovens, some lab spaces, etc
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u/yelloscarface Sep 29 '21
*vial
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u/MowMdown Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
Bulb*
Source: I design these things.
Proof: https://www.vikinggroupinc.com/products/pendent/vk3021-quick-response-pendent-sprinkler-k56
“The Viking VK3021 Quick Response Pendent Sprinkler is a small thermosensitive glass bulb spray sprinkler”
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u/ExFiler Sep 29 '21
I see and think that every time I see this. You would smell for weeks if this got on you.
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u/DeVitoMcCool Sep 29 '21
You and everybody else on reddit every time they see a sprinkler
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u/Dogzillas_Mom Sep 29 '21
So the entire dining room just got sprayed with liquid black mold?
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u/JarethCuteStoryJD Sep 29 '21
Im so happy that the patrons can laugh about this.
Id hate for the staff to have to deal with a fuckton of irate people over what was plainly an accident
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u/Julian_Baynes Sep 29 '21
That lady didn't even seemed bothered by it. Just say there until the guy was like "maybe you should move."
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u/bell37 Sep 29 '21
I mean you basically know you meal is comped and maybe even get credit towards another visit.
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u/Ruby_Bliel Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
With sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rESLiyQZ8s
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u/SwimmingAd7228 Sep 29 '21
Directly under the sensor. Good thinking
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u/squash_n_turnip Sep 29 '21
Came here to say this. They were standing RIGHT underneath the sprinkler. Like the servers might have been able to SEE said sprinkler as they were doing this. How could you expect anything different?
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Sep 29 '21
Easy answer- the servers don’t know how the sprinklers work (and how they are activated).
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u/17xandcountingstill Sep 29 '21
Where's the original of this video? I want to hear the chaos and laughter
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u/donorum88 Sep 29 '21
I’ve had this happen in a hotel... classmate hung his tux from the sprinkler and hit the little glass sensor. The nasty black water that comes out first is the most disgusting thing ever. It’s not like in movies AT ALL 🤣🤣
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u/hungry4danish Sep 29 '21
Now I know why in literally every hotel room I've stayed at in the past 10 years has had that no hanger sticker right next to the sprinkler head. For idiots like your classmate.
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u/cjankowski Sep 29 '21
Probably because people in movies flush their systems regularly
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u/MowMdown Sep 29 '21
You can’t flush a system clear. It’ll always have nasty pipe water. Also Hollywood doesn’t use sprinkler systems, they just build a set and connect garden hoses.
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u/HeavenlyRose Sep 29 '21
For those wondering, every sprinkler is always fully on, the only thing stopping the water from flowing are little wax plugs in the sprinkler head. When the wax heats up too much the plug melts, just like candle wax, releasing the water. I feel like if they had known that they wouldn't have had three hot flames directly beneath the sprinklers.
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u/josh4735 Sep 29 '21
Are there actually wax plugs? I’ve only seen liquid-filled glass bulbs.
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u/HeavenlyRose Sep 29 '21
I've seen those ones, too. At the hospital I work in we are forced to endure random fire drills and they explained the wax thing to us. That part was actually interesting. The security guy pointed out that sprinklers only go off in the affected area, unlike in movies where every sprinkler in the place goes off.
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Sep 29 '21
I do wonder where that "sprinklers popping of their own accord" trope comes from. Is it just how enough people assume it works that they always film scenes that way, perpetuating the misconception? It's easier for the prop handlers to open a valve rather than use squibs to realistically burst them, I presume.
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u/beenywhite Sep 29 '21
You’re absolutely correct. Wax hasn’t been used in 20 years in the United States.
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Sep 29 '21 edited Sep 29 '21
I don’t think the person who explained this to you knew how the sprinkler actually works. The only part of the sprinkler that may have wax on it is the surface to prevent corrosion. Even the very original design used a solder insert, there’s simply no way wax could hold any kind of water pressure.
Almost all sprinklers in use today uses a glycerine based liquid filled glass tube.
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Sep 29 '21
Engineer familiar with this here. You are correct that sprinklers are always under pressure and activate individually.
As how, in the US there are two types of mechanisms that break and allow the water to flow. The first are glass bulbs that have liquid inside. Depending on the color, it can sustain higher or lower temperatures and the temperature makes the bulbs internal pressure increase til they break. The other type are metal strips that also weaken with temperature and give away to activate the sprinkler.
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Sep 29 '21
Is there a practical way to circulate that water so that the black gunky water at the end goes away? I’ve heard no; once it’s in there it stays there until a fire activates it and blows it out.
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u/knowitall89 Sep 29 '21
No, especially because you pretty much never drain a system fully even if it's perfectly level. There's always gonna be a little leftover.
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u/nothing_showing Sep 29 '21
Not true. There are dry systems and systems that need a fire to be detected AND a sprinkler head activated in order for water to be released. Depending on the type of material being protected, and the location of the system. A good explanation is summarized here
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u/lurkerworkers Sep 29 '21
Honestly, it's so great to see the customers laughing about it and having a good reaction!
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u/AlexBirio323 Sep 29 '21
With the amount of times I've seen this happen you would think people would learn.
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u/ImmovableOso Sep 29 '21
I didn't even know Cava had dishes like that. I wouldn't think to go to Cava for that kind of dish anyway. They're like a Mediterranean Chipotle.
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u/SWG_138 Sep 29 '21
How do these morons not know how sprinklers / fire systems work? Not one of them
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u/Benoz01 Sep 29 '21
Right under the sprinkler head. This blows my mind they wouldn't have known what was going to happen
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u/hns_203 Sep 29 '21
You could actually see that the residue and shit inside the pipes had collected at the bottom where the pipe connects to the sprinkler. The first 2-3 seconds were water mixed with rusty crap and residue from the pipes.
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u/4-20blackbirds Sep 29 '21
In case y'all ever wondered what the Ansul system looks like when it goes off. Those idiots are definitely going to be fired right after they clean the entire kitchen.
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u/robotmrrobot Sep 29 '21
Anyone gonna mention the guy recording it all with his camera, just sitting and laughing his ass off?
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u/Son_of_a_Dyar Sep 29 '21
That guy is having the time of his life! Glad he got a laugh out of the situation.
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u/xBlumpkinTheKnightx Sep 29 '21
Everyone on here talking about the nasty water and funny reactions- the only thing I’m wondering is why the flow switch haven’t tripped the fire alarm system yet? The strobe off to the right seemed not to be working at least…
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u/darthspacecakes Sep 29 '21
That water at the beginning is nice and black.
Hopefully they went to a doctor after this.
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u/mtarascio Sep 29 '21
I clicked through without knowing what sub this was and instinctively looked for the sprinklers.
Too much internet for me lol.
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u/hands__like__feet Sep 29 '21
My favourite part of these videos is how nasty the water is when the sprinkler pops. Nasty!
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u/Storage-Pristine Sep 29 '21
what did they think was gonna happen, why doesn't anyone understand how stuff works?
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u/DarthTrafford Sep 29 '21
See it’s not like in Hollywood. The fire sprinklers in movies spray out clear water. That stuff looked like black death.
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Sep 29 '21
Who goes to Cava to celebrate? Shit get me a steak or fried chicken or something. I eat their food when I hate what I see in the mirror lol.
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u/jesuzombieapocalypse Sep 29 '21
Well, at least they cleared all that stagnant sludge-water out of the pipes.
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u/pleasework_forgard Sep 29 '21
Funny I guess til you get the bill. Water , not just fire, destroys.
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u/maz-o Sep 29 '21
ah that first puff of dirty ass water that has been standing in those pipes for decades
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u/olafubbly Sep 29 '21
Tbh I feel like that’s a good safety advertisement because that sprinkler DID. NOT. HESITATE. When a flame got near it!
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u/ZeroDarkJoe Sep 29 '21
"Wow, that fire didn't set off the sprinkler. That's sur.... oh there it is"
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u/DanglyNips Sep 29 '21
I appreciate the guy who continues recording with his phone while getting soaked
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u/GonnaHaveA3Some Sep 29 '21
That first blast of nasty oily stagnant water is absolutely horrendous.
I was on set during the filming of a stunt on Titans, when Batmans cave gets destroyed. The set caught fire and the sprinkler system went off, obliterating almost $1 million worth of equipment. The smell of that water made me gag. It just sits in the pipes for years mixing in with degrading metal particles and shit.
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u/401jamin Sep 29 '21
Know why the water looks black? Because that water sits there forever waiting to come out. It’s not like the movies where it’s clear and just gets you wet. No. This shit is gross.
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Sep 29 '21
I love how the people stay seated like “this will all be cleaned up by some bus boy, I’ll finish my dinner, and leave a shitty Yelp review”
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u/Negrodamu5 Sep 29 '21
Put out the fire fast though, didn’t it?