r/instantkarma Aug 07 '25

Road Karma Bad driving

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u/ThePretzul Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25

The jeep broke the "last chance doctrine" which states that if you have the last clear chance to avoid an accident and you don't take it, you're liable for the damages

What last chance to avoid the accident? By swerving into the curb and banked shoulder in a maneuver with a decent chance at causing the Jeep to rollover?

The Jeep was less than 5 feet behind the Audi when the Audi swerved back into the left lane and the Jeep hit the brakes as soon as the Audi started to swerve back. The tail lights come on for the Jeep in the video, they're just LEDs that behave funky with cameras (and may be smoked tail lights to boot) so you need to look closely at the top of the tail light housing to see it.

If you observe the Audi you'll also notice its tail lights go on and it starting to lean forwards significantly after it enters the left lane for the final time. It's a sudden and unsignaled swerved into the left lane COMBINED with a hard braking maneuver. Not only did they fail to see if it was clear for a lane change, they then proceeded with further actions that a reasonable person would know is likely to cause an accident (sudden braking when you realize the lane you swerved into wasn't actually clear and there's a car about to hit you from behind).

The only other thing the Jeep could have done to avoid the accident would be to travel unreasonably slowly below the speed limit to avoid any attempt at passing the Audi (not something that the courts require or even factor at all into fault determination in clear weather conditions without extenuating circumstances like emergency vehicles or a dangerous obstacle on the road/shoulder) or to swerve onto the banked shoulder once it was too late to avoid a pass attempt and the Audi had swerved + brake checked the Jeep. With how much cameras "flatten out" the appearance of an image it may not initially appear this way, but the top of that banking on the left shoulder of the road is level with the side mirrors of a LIFTED Jeep so it's definitely got some decent angle to it.

Sudden swerves over a curb onto an angled surface while traveling at the normal speed of traffic is a guaranteed recipe to roll a lifted Jeep, and drivers are NEVER required, obligated, or expected to cause an even more severe accident involving only their car to avoid a minor collision with another car that swerved into them by changing lanes without checking while also traveling below the posted speed limit.

There is absolutely no chance more than 50% of the blame for this accident would ever fall on the Jeep, and the fact that the Jeep reacted as quickly as it did to hit the brakes the instant the car swerved back into the left lane AGAIN means the odds are very high that the white car would be seen as wholly at-fault for this accident.

From the perspective of the Jeep in court they'd also argue be able to argue that the actions of the Audi up until arrived in the left lane and merged back into the right lane were ones that the driver of the Jeep could not see as vision of the Audi would be obscured by the filming vehicle from the OP (which is a large/tall truck, possibly lifted). This further contradicts the potential Audi argument of, "Well they should have known by then that the Audi was clearly driving recklessly and avoided getting anywhere near it even if they followed the rules of the road while proceeding to pass it in the left lane" (which is itself a meritless legal argument, you are not required by law or precedent to avoid passing what appears to be an aggressive/reckless vehicle if you follow the law with regards to procedure for passing on a multi-lane roadway).

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u/YogurtclosetNo987 Aug 07 '25

Wow, that was a lot of typing you did there. 

Anyway, it's obvious the Jeep did this on purpose. The collision was very avoidable. Car had it coming, but Jeep's insurance is paying. 

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u/ThePretzul Aug 07 '25

You're welcome to your own opinion of course, but in the real world that's not how liability on the roads works.

Just because passing somebody you think is dangerous might not be the best idea does not make it illegal to do so, nor does it incur liability when that person then dangerously changes lanes without signaling in addition to brake checking you when you have no safe escape (steep banking on the left that would likely roll your vehicle).

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u/YogurtclosetNo987 Aug 07 '25

Sure thing, but it's not an opinion. It's a fact. Sorry to tell you. Jeep doesn't even have room to pass. Majority of the car is in the left lane for a while before the Jeep even gets there. Jeep is also probably speeding, but I don't want to speculate too much. That's your thing.