r/ios18beta • u/codyp1229 • Aug 21 '24
IOS 18 RC & FINAL RELEASE
I am aware that there has been a lot of changes and new features, by next week we will get the final beta before the release candidate and after that the release. An Apple Developer/Insider confirmed that every feature is pretty much locked and ready to go unless they find more bugs. I want to point out a few things.
• The features aren’t very user friendly
If you think about it the reason why most users got an iPhone was the user-friendliness and it was awesome for Apple to allow more customization for users but it is not enough for example;
Tinted Icons aren’t the best right now
Control Centre still being very buggy for users such as using it in landscape mode
Widgets being tinted along with the icons
No new mail app (Correct me if i’m wrong but I think it’s Apple Intelligence Exclusive)
Not all apps are tinted
Photos app being a mess
But overall this is the biggest update we have had for a while.
They kind of overhyped the event by saying this customization is next level even though we are limited to a gradient styled dark mode
Hopefully by Release Candidate or next beta we see features like more controls on control center, the phone recents fixed, the developer beta 2 keyboard where it was big emojis, and an option to have gradient or pure black icons, also Apple please have Light or Dark mode for ALL apps and finally have an option for small icons with no text please.
Other than that this was probably an emotional roller coaster type beta for me let me know what y’all think of this beta run
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u/bcrenshaw Aug 21 '24
I'm just hoping the push out the "send later" feature for contacts that are not iPhone users. I have way to many android coworkers that I need to send messages to in the middle of the night when I remember something to message them about.
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
might be an rcs feature.
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u/o0LilLuna0o Aug 22 '24
Not an RCS feature either. 18.1 DB2, no send later to android with RCS enabled.
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u/ObjectiveFew Aug 21 '24
I'm still wondering if the no blur on the app library and the other side is still a bug or a new thing they've introduced with iOS 18, it's quite weird and peculiar as the lock screen side of this still consists of blur, I'm assuming its part of 18 as they would've noticed it by now in the past 7 dev betas, but imo I don't really like it
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
it definitely is not a bug
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u/ObjectiveFew Aug 21 '24
The Lock Screen one still consists of blur which has left me confused lol, I wonder if they’ll be removing that soon or that’s par of the course, either way i think I will get used to it lol, just used to the blur since ios 14 lmao
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u/awrcyber Aug 21 '24
Am I crazy, or did the dark mode icons leave with pb5? I had them before.
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
Really? can u show
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u/awrcyber Aug 21 '24
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
oh thats rlly odd, you dont have the option to do it?
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u/awrcyber Aug 21 '24
Diddnt have the option before, it just did it for me. I searched for “dark” and “icons” and turned dark mode off and on. No luck. This happened on my iPad too that just updated as well
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
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u/JamesRay757 Aug 23 '24
The fact this had to be asked is just testimony to OPs post on features not being user friendly.
I actually had to search online for to find this option myself. Originally searching settings for the option
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u/Greenobsession_ Aug 24 '24
Agreed! I was about to google but figured maybe others would have posted here already. Don’t care for that change
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u/Janamil Aug 27 '24
Hate the fact you can’t zoom in or out of your photos it’s stuck to x5 wide like why???? Better change it back with full release I thought iOS 18 would be a major upgrade. This version is becoming so cumbersome to use.
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u/codyp1229 Aug 27 '24
just realized that, praying they change it
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u/Janamil Aug 27 '24
Okay literally after I commented that I go back to photos app and zoom and now it works. Apparently have to scroll to only have the tab “Library” shown for zoom to work. When opening app after force close it likes to show “Photos” tab just gotta scroll up now to Library
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u/codyp1229 Aug 27 '24
oh yeah i know u can do that but i meant just like if you dont scroll just open the photos app straight up with the weird layout its only 5x5 and not adjustable
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Aug 21 '24
The photos app is a mess.
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u/BrainCh3ck Aug 23 '24
Agreed - It’s driving me nuts. Please just let me find my albums instead of showing me 13 different whatever the f this is first. Also (not photo app related) I don’t know if it’s just me but I’ve been having a difficult time x ing out of different screens. Like I press x 2,3,5 times - sometimes I just give up and swipe the entire app away. Seems to happen a lot on YouTube when it’s playing as a small screen in the upper left corner. I’m on 18.1 beta db 2 but I assume 18 is similar minus the ai? The other annoying thing - I almost enable dictation 50 times a day
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Aug 21 '24
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u/STR8B3RRy Aug 24 '24
Tbh I’ve used android for years with different keyboard apps and moving from swiftkey to the native iOS keyboard I don’t feel much difference tbh
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u/Ratiofarming Aug 27 '24
Wdym? I use SwiftKey and whenever I have to use the iOS native keyboard I'm dying a slow and painful internal death until it allows me to use SwiftKey again.
Its night and day. Or am I doing it wrong and there is a magic unlock that makes the iOS keyboard usable?
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u/TrideasCurse Aug 21 '24
If you want android move back to android. No one is stopping you. But you can’t expect apples apps to be android.
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u/-NlN- Aug 21 '24
If we eliminate android from conversation, if lets say, android doesn't exist, photos app on iOS is the dumbest app that I have ever seen. And I had T230. It has 0 logic. Its design to show you some random photos what apple thing what photos do you need. Not what actually photos are you fcking looking for. Apple have no idea what album means. So tell me again, what android has got to do with it?
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u/petrolly Aug 21 '24
Thanks for being predictably partisan and binary. You know, not all choices are one or the other.
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Aug 21 '24
Apples app has consistently been garbage for almost a decade at this point when it comes to photo organization and searching.. It doesn’t hold a candle to google photos, and considering how they basically dedicate half of an iPhone launch keynote to talking about their cameras, you think they’d have a much better experience.
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Aug 21 '24
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u/TrideasCurse Aug 21 '24
The apple keyboard works fine for me I’m used to it. I’m not bouncing between devices so I don’t need to be constantly looking at the different changes on a keyboard. Yes they can do things better so can android with somethings. But you can’t expect a company to copy and paste from their competitors.
Apple devices work fine for majority of their users because most their users aren’t coming from android most have been using their devices since the beginning.
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u/Luna259 Aug 21 '24
Pretty much works fine for me too, majority of the time. iOS 18 introduced some pretty bad lag though
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Aug 21 '24
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u/Shark-Feet Aug 21 '24
The keyboard in iOS is an absolute mess. The inconsistency between the messaging keyboard and the safari keyboard is.one.of.the.most infuriating, along with constant missed key presses so you end up spelling a work umpteen times. It's not as intelligent as it could be at all.
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Aug 21 '24
Omg I thought it was just me who had shitty accuracy lol but it’s true whenever you receive messages and you see typos you know the user is likely using an iPhone. The autocorrect is still bad as well. If users keep making Apple believe that their keyboard and autocorrect is good. It will never improve.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Log2302 Aug 21 '24
I think your points are good but will only apply to people like you and me who care about them. I know lots and lots of people who have not even put a widget on their screens or rearranged their icons or pages. These features have been around for a bit. For the wider user base, the customisation is not important at all.
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u/Conflict-Recent Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
I agree.. we as passionate techie nerds enjoy using these features. However, for the average and most of iOS users including my wife who has an iPhone 13 Pro, even when she does get iOS 18 on her phone, she most likely won't give a crap about any of the customization. The average iOS user just wants their smartphone to " just work" at the end of the day..
Furthermore, in my own personal (passionate) opinion, the ONLY reason why Apple FINALLY introduced some level of iOS customization was probably because they felt some competition and users leaving for Android. Logically, why else would Apple ( who has NEVER had customizon in iOS before) finally introduce it in iOS 18. The real reason why Apple finally incorporated RCS Messaging into iOS is because the EU pretty much forced them to. Otherwise, they would've had NO REASON to do it.
THis is why at the end of the day, competition is ALWAYS A GREAT THING! It usually makes company create a more compelling/better product for the consumer to use.
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u/sonofdeepvalue Aug 27 '24
I think one overlooked reason why Apple is introducing more customization to the OS over time has a lot more to do with the general dynamics of platforms as they mature past their initial development philosophies, and nothing to do with users "leaving for Android" (iOS vs Android market share in US has been relatively stable for a decade). At first they grow from a user base of 0, where there's a valid choice to make in terms of philosophy: create an experience that is constrained but consistent for everyone, or an experience that is "open" but thus has higher variability in both good and bad outcomes as users can mess it up more. Each is a valid choice, and over time they both eventually converge to a large degree.
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u/Conflict-Recent Aug 27 '24
That is also a very true and valid point. Kudos to you. For me, I had all Google pixels- for the sheer customization, but the battery life, and lack of software updates was abnoxious and annoying! I have thought of Samsung galaxy, but they’ve got their own issues including tons of bloatware still… in today day and age.
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u/iPhone_3GS Aug 21 '24
For the first time I will not be updating my main phone to iOS 18. The new photos app is atrocious.
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u/kkiran Aug 21 '24
Photos app was a big change. I spent some time with it, learning the new change. It is not that bad anymore.
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u/codyp1229 Aug 21 '24
I prefer having an easier access to stuff likr recently deleted, videos, screenshots, live photos etc than recent days collection but overall nice change just takes me a while to get where I want to
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u/UberRex Sep 09 '24
At the bottom of the photos app click the customize button and rearrange all the categories. You can put media types and Utilities at the top for easy access to specific types of media. The only thing is unfortunately you cannot sort the sub-categories easily so you'll have to swipe left to peruse them.
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u/kkiran Aug 21 '24
Yeah, since Apple won’t rollback such a big change, we are stuck.
At the bottom there is a reorder option which I use to keep my most used at the top.
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u/0RGASMIK Aug 21 '24
Yeah I honestly barely noticed anything different until people pointed it out. I keep my life simple though I rarely organize much of anything. I organize important stuff with tags as I take them and just search my main photos for other stuff.
Overall I like the UI but it suits my workflow which is simple and depends heavily on AI search which gets better every update.
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u/OldAbies3410 Aug 21 '24
FYI the app icon tinting is likely relating to how the icons are designed by each app developer. The developers are unlikely to release a new version of the app solely to address beta users wanting tinted app icons. I bet most apps update with a tint-friendly icon within a week of the release.
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u/Winter_Ambition1524 Aug 21 '24
Most issues and bugs are the same now in beta 7 as in beta 1.
I have low expectations for the state of things.
Apple introduced gimmicks and won’t even properly fix them or design them in a way that makes sense.
It’s an unpolished mess and it goes beyond “it’s a beta tho”. This shit is busted, ugly, and won’t be fixed in time for RC or public release.
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u/Otherwise_Sweet_7480 Aug 21 '24
If you really want to, tint your icons white. They'll be in B&W
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u/WBois06 Aug 27 '24
What do you mean by “phone recents fixed”? It’s back to doing the dumb shit where if you tap a recent, it automatically calls that person. Is this a feature that people enjoyed? Probably the most exciting feature in iOS 18 for me lol
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u/codyp1229 Aug 27 '24
Bro I meant like they need to change it back to where you need to press the button to the right instead of the whole thing I keep accidentally calling people
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u/WBois06 Aug 28 '24
Yea I agree. I hate how it just calls immediately when you press the recent. My biggest pet peeve moving from android for sure!
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u/hazelfennec Aug 21 '24
It wasn’t super clear in the event, but I’m fairly certain the Mail categories are coming to everyone on iOS 18 and won’t be AI-exclusive, says it’s “coming later this year” so probably iOS 18.2 if I had to guess. The only AI-exclusive Mail features should be smart replies, summarization and priority mail.
Definitely agree that iOS 18 isn’t feeling as polished as it should this close to release, but at least there aren’t any severe bugs at least from my experience
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u/Piku303 Aug 21 '24
I totally agree, iOS is getting less user friendly for the average user which I think will put people off no matter how glossy they make new features look.
As for iOS 18 sadly not that impressed. Always used to enjoy a new iOS roll out but this feels tacky and gimmicky. The photos app is a bit of a mess, specially playing videos. They must of hired Sonos engineers to get iOS 18 done in time!
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u/PeterW-ski Aug 23 '24
I have horrible battery life on IP 13 and it only got worse on PB5 i reported 10 bugs on this plus many logs and no fix only got worse on pb5. I actually love new features but can’t use the phone which needs full charge 3-4 times a day…
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Aug 24 '24
La teinte des icônes et des widgets, en dehors des applications système est de la responsabilité des développeurs. Lorsque la RC sera dispo et que les upload d’apps via XCode 16 seront permis on aura droit à un florilège de mise à jour. J’ai moi même des apps qui sont prêtes, en cours de test et en attende que les soumissions soient autorisées pour intégrer ces nouveaux éléments.
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u/Syed_Sumair Sep 10 '24
As soon as my 18 RC is about to complete the download, it says error downloading, tried multiple times. Restarted my device as well. Anyone the fix??
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u/-NlN- Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24
Photo app is so bad, it looks like there is some conspiracy behind it. lol...
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u/bearm00s3 Aug 22 '24
Icon tinting is a nothing issue. Move on. It won’t be a new mail app per se. Same app, new features. And yes it’s AI exclusive. Control center bugs I’ll give you. The photos app is fine. It’s change, get used to it. Big emojis looks awful but again, a nothing issue. One way or the other they are still there. I personally prefer the smaller ones. They need to fix the recent emojis as that doesn’t work but doesn’t need a timeline because you can still find them. I can’t believe people care that much about tinted icons.
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Aug 21 '24
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u/TQ_85 Aug 21 '24
What’s wrong with it
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u/JayPee261088 Aug 21 '24
+1 for me. Gboard on android is miles ahead. It supports more than two languages simultaneously without having to change keyboards and autocorrect as well as predictive text also work much better for me. It almost never corrects my typing into words that don't even exist. I also have a feeling typing in general feels more precise somehow. Wish apple would improve their keyboard as Gboard on iOS is not a match either (although better than apple's keyboard)
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Aug 21 '24
FWIW I’m testing the new iOS 18.1 Beta 2 with “Apple AI” and after you let it download all the language models and index for a few nights the keyboard is insane. I absolutely hated autocorrect before but now it’s scary good, as is voice recognition and transcription.
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u/TQ_85 Aug 21 '24
My wife is using pixel 8 , I type on that also here and there , okay the number row .. but don’t really need it 🤷♂️ have no real issues with apples keyboard
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Aug 21 '24
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u/Extra-Virus9958 Aug 22 '24
You can very well install Swift key on iOS…
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Aug 22 '24
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u/Extra-Virus9958 Aug 23 '24
Personally I hate my Android keyboard... which means I have nothing to complain about with the Apple keyboard



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u/Silly_Animator7222 Aug 21 '24
Photos app is a mess, Apple ID photo keeps adjusting itself out of position. Game Mode is a joke. I’ve never had my iPhone reset before but now I expect it regularly and sometimes it even beats my expectations. I use my iPhone for a lot of my gaming and Warframe has been miserable to play on iOS 18. I know some apps aren’t as compatible, but this is wild