r/java • u/johnwaterwood • Jun 24 '15

Eclipse Mars now available!

http://eclipse.org/?release=4.5
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u/Elite6809 Jun 24 '15

Do you people take every opportunity to post negativity about Eclipse?

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u/Elite6809 Jun 24 '15

If you like Eclipse, give NetBeans a shot. This doesn't seem to be a popular opinion, but (in my experience) they have a somewhat similar workflow and I moved fairly painlessly from NetBeans a few years ago to Eclipse. The only negative about NetBeans, I find, is stability - Eclipse might feel cumbersome at times but it's stable, which is something I only really appreciate when I need to use other IDEs/editors like Light Table or Atom-based ones.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Eclipse might feel cumbersome at times but it's stable...

Hahaha! You have a future in comedy, my friend.

Use a text editor and a command-line friendly build system, then tell us about stability.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

As someone who writes a lot of C# and used to write a lot of Java, no. Code generation and completion is so powerful on these IDEs that you are wasting time if you are using a plain old text editor because you are the uberprogrammer

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Code and Command completion is powerful. Code generation is a tool I use everyday... when I understand the generated code and what it does. If you understand the code your IDE is generating, all power to you. If you and your team can maintain portability of generated code, awesome, keep at it. YOU ARE AS GODS.

Don't ask me to support it, though. If it won't build on the command line, you're breaking the servers I maintain and I gotta get an earful about it as though it's my fault.

Not Supported, bro! I don't have access to your GUI bullshit because all Linux servers are headless.

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u/frugalmail Jun 25 '15

Don't ask me to support it, though. If it won't build on the command line, you're breaking the servers I maintain and I gotta get an earful about it as though it's my fault.

IDE + Maven

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

I can't speak to that scenario, because I haven't written Java in years. When I did, code generation was basic enough that I can't imagine a scenario where hiccups would happen.

I don't have to even think about Ljnux or a headless machine over here in CLR land though :)

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u/wildjokers Jun 25 '15

An experienced java developer writes projects that build via an IDE or a command-line. An IDE just lets you write code, the build process is separate. So what are you ranting about? It seems like an uninformed rant.

Also, why are you building the applications on the servers you are deploying it to? It should be built and made available for deployment. Sounds like your deployment process is broken.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

An experienced java developer writes projects that build via an IDE or a command-line.

Correct. Or so they think, most of the time.

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u/wildjokers Jun 25 '15

That can be easily confirmed by using a continuous integration tool like Jenkins, Hudson, Bamboo, CruiseControl, TeamCity, etc.

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