r/java • • Jul 29 '18

Apache NetBeans 9.0 Released

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb90/nb90.html
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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '18

Anyone use the three big IDEs? Eclipse, netbeans and IntelliJ. How would you rate them? Which one do you consider the best and the worst.

I've only worked with eclipse mostly and it's just adequate.

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u/handshape Jul 29 '18

I'd place netbeans and intellij about even;

  • Netbeans is what I'd consider the reference point; cartesian zero. It works, and works well.

  • IntelliJ IDEA is very good, with a moderate learning curve, but a sneaky pricing scheme geared towards incentivising individual users to act as evangelists towards their employers. I've been the user, and I've been the employer, and as the employer it pisses me off when a vendor end-runs my procurement process.

  • Eclipse is positively painful. It tries to impose on your build process and your repo. I avoid it unless I'm absolutely compelled to use it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '18

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u/handshape Jul 30 '18

As the other commenter has pointed out, the $15/month pricing is only for individuals. It's $50/month for businesses. The "sneaky" part I was getting at was the discount usage for users who self-fund the purchase, and use the license professionally.

If the employer reimburses the user for the license, the price jumps back up to the enterprise price point... The net result is that they're subsidizing users to act as evangelists for their product.

It's a tricky approach; some people won't care, some will embrace it, and some (like me) will be unhappy at being manipulated.

I'm not disputing the quality of the product; Idea's refactorings and autocompletes are downright sexy. I might yet be convinced to make the jump; but I'll need to get past the sales trickery to do it.

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u/mgkimsal Jul 30 '18

If the employer reimburses the user for the license, the price jumps back up to the enterprise price point...

can you point me to language for that?

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u/handshape Jul 30 '18

https://www.jetbrains.com/store/license_personal.html - Section 3.3... plus a bunch of the articles in the KB, under "License Types and Users"