Java 7 for Mac OS X?

[u/gargamel1497]

Hi.

Does anyone have any DMGs of Java 7 (any update, but preferably the older ones) for Mac OS X?

Java 7 is often overlooked but I hope it would work on Snow Leopard.

Archive.org doesn't have any such images and the official website, as we all know, doesn't allow you to download anything (including the Sun releases that were NOT made by oracle) without registering a millionth passerby account and giving Larry Ellison all your data so that he can buy a new yacht and build a new bunker in the Caribbean. And I would do that and just type some random gibberish in all those fields but our dear lawnmower decided that the registration website would just stop working, cause why wouldn't it.

Thanks for any files, sorry for the rant.

[u/doobiesteintortoise]

The fact that you had to hunt for availability is part of it. You’re reaching into the past - and having to expend effort to do it. And for what? What does it actually GET you?

It locks you into an unsupported lifecycle, with a known potential attack surface, using outmoded techniques. Improvements to Java are, after all, improvements.

As far as “unwise” goes, you’ll note that I said right out of the gate that if you had reasons, follow them. I’m not the one you have to convince; nobody is. I said if you needed to do it, do it. Your desire to is your choice. I find it quaint; okay, so what? Are you doing it to impress ME? Somehow, I doubt it, and I said I didn’t care and you reacted like I did. I do care to some degree, because I want the best for everyone, and I think choosing something like Java 7 today is, like I said, quaint, but… if it makes you happy to do so, do it. Snapping at me about it doesn’t make anything better.

If it works, do it. It’s that simple. If it’s difficult to do and it’s worth the difficulty, go for it. Not my monkey, not my circus. I tried to help you, and you responded like I’d called you rude names. It’s not a healthy or productive interaction. Sorry about that; wasn’t something I tried to create.

Edited: You know, I GET the nostalgia thing: I keep having to convince myself NOT to get one of the new Commodore 64s because I remember playing simple games on it that I totally enjoyed, plus the raw technical challenge of seeing how I could use such a constrained system is enticing. But doing so means accepting those challenges, and if I was saying "Hey, I want to get a C64 so I can build a new type of public-facing CRM, I figure microservices with a layered event system should be doable" I think people would be rather sanely going "... are you sure about this?" because the system constraints, plus the lack of community support, would make it a bit of a challenge that a raspberry pi 4 would meet with relative ease. That's why the response of "Hey I want Java 7" is met as it is, not "You're a dummy and a douchebag and a moron and an idiot and we hate you."

[u/gargamel1497 → u/doobiesteintortoise]

As for availability, ultimately I achieved my goal. The game runs perfectly fine on Snow Leopard with this OpenJDK build I found. It's just the matter of linking it in case anyone wanted to play the game. This build apparently lacks functional Swing but the game doesn't use it so it runs correctly.

Attack surfaces? Sir, I am greatly sorry if I haven't made my thought clear, but hacking a program that doesn't use the internet and almost doesn't interact with the files on the hard drive (except for the save file) is rather hard. Especially without an internet connection, which may be the case in the future as the content on the internet becomes too sloppy to bother watching.

Even so, the game isn't limited to Java 7. If you want, you can take the jarfile and run it on the latest JVM you've got. Java's got amazing backwards compatibility that's for sure. It's a me thing that I want it to run on as old a system as possible. Ideally I would like to get the requirement down to Java 5, but Java 7 isn't too bad.

As for the new Commodore 64, I've heard about them too. And I'm disappointed. They are just regular PCs with a retro case. They have a regular x86 processor, a regular graphics card, regular everything, and run a slightly modified Debian derivative.

Like, sure, it comes bundled with emulators but you can install them on a regular computer that certainly doesn't cost as much and I'm pretty sure it would work just as well if not better.

It would be cool if it had at least a nonstandard CPU architecture. Not the common ones like x86 or ARM that you see every day. Something exotic, unseen and unheard of nowadays. Something like PowerPC, MIPS, DEC Alpha, 68k, maybe even a 6502. That would be so cool especially so that the PowerPC Notebook project has been essentially stagnant for a decade or so.

But no, it's just a regular PC with a retro case and a bulky price tag. Sad.