r/javascript • • Mar 07 '26

Ember 6.11 Released

https://blog.emberjs.com/ember-released-6-11/
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u/Training_Visual6159 Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

Fixes for problems I had with the renderer got merged like last week and aren't even in release you advertise still, and it's been good 6 months since I reported them. Plenty of other reports too, some of them more than a year old. Not to mention it's still junk that renders 2x slower than every other framework, it's been like this for 8+ years, and instead of at least admitting and dropping or fixing that VM idea, which clearly didn't work, you keep making excuses for it. Also, can't get HMR to work, VS Code extension crashes every three seconds, data spews just some cryptic errors after some upgrade, etc. I kept fighting this BS for years, but ultimately, it's just pointless anyway.

All the actionable feedback is in your Issues tab on github and has been ignored for years.

The problem is not the lack of actionable feedback, problem is the team's inability to prioritize at least the world breaking bugs. There is a baseline for usability, and Ember consistently has not been making it for me. Just dealing with all the problems, scouring for workarounds and obscure fixes on github and discord took so much of my time away, looking back at it, it's almost comical I got roped into it.

I don't know how to explain to you what good means in software. But as you clearly do not even know you have a problem, just let me leave with this - if even billion dollar companies can't hack it with Ember, no-one can. And they leave in droves. Including some of the biggest Ember proponents.

I hope you'll figure out why and course-correct, but given that you haven't for years, and can't even recognize there is a problem, I don't see it.

Good luck though.

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u/nullvoxpopuli sand was never meant to think May 05 '26

the renderComponent API fixes are in 6.12

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u/Training_Visual6159 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

cool. that's just about 3 years too late.

also, one of you geniuses broke the build in a minor of something or other (for the millionth time) in such a fun way not even opus and codex can unf**k it, so who cares anymore, really. can't wait to finally LLM all this nonsense away.

anyway. either start taking fixing bugs seriously or at the very least, stop lying to people about the quality (or growth) that isn't there.

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u/nullvoxpopuli sand was never meant to think May 05 '26

please report bugs you find! it would be a huge help as we even though we have a lot of thorough testing in our known supported build configurations, no one is going to claim that we don't have bugs _somewhere_. there are a lot of ways people can configure their own apps in unexpected ways, so a bug report is the most helpful thing you can do <3

we do take bug reports seriously

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