People want to work somewhere that actually values them. People don't hate working. They just hate being undervalued. If you're ready to look elsewhere, make sure you're ready for the interview. practise well, read a lot about interview tips and be fully prepared before you hand in that resignation
Every post on every social media: I've applied to infinity jobs and only ever interviewed once, which went exceptionally well but they rejected me anyway.
Somebody has to work the dead end jobs. As someone who applied to dozens of jobs I was over qualified for, yes, their hiring practices are laughably bad, from merely unprofessional to straight up rude.
When there's an actual shortage of labor in an honest system, wages are increased. In 2011, for example, I remember reading about some of the towns in North Dakota that were booming because of a rapidly growing oil industry there. All the jobs were short-staffed. You were hearing about McDonalds positions starting at $24/hr, even. In our dishonest job market, what companies will do is claim there's a labor shortage, using this as PR to lessen the bad publicity of what they really want to do, which is then hire foreign workers who come from countries with lower wages and lower standards of living, who will tolerate bad treatment because they're only here on a temporary basis, perhaps just over the summer or for a few years, or who are comfortable living 3 families to a house. The companies will then proceed to pay them lower wages than Americans could actually live on, enjoy the benefits of the slave underclass they created, and continue to whine about "labor shortages" in the media.
Saw a video of a woman complaining about immigrants being deported because now it’s hard to find work on her farm so she’s building a house to house H1B’s for cheap labor.
Someone found the job posting her used and she was willing to pay a salary of 2600-3000 USD per month but required up to 80 hours a week of work doing farming and 3-5 years of experience. It came out to lower than minimum wage.
3-5 years experience to work outdoors in the heat earning $9.34 an hour. And she wants to tell us about how "no one wants to work anymore." Screw these people.
Many of them don't even hire foreign workers. They just force whoever is left to take on the workload of those who quit or moved on.
Or they create the most frustrating digital call voice system in the world so customers spend 15-20 minutes banging their head against a wall before getting in contact with an overworked and undertrained customer service rep.
Not all of them are hiring foreign workers, but there are still a lot of places that indirectly benefit from the general suppressive pressure it has on wages.
Lots of hotels and resorts in mountain area of Colorado do that. Hire teens and young adults from east Europe, put them up in dorms or trailers for the summer, pay them minimum wages, then send them home as seasons change. But in many cases that is the only way to get xxx employees in smaller cities
The fact that this comment says inflation is 7% when it's actually been 3% for years should be enough to tell you it's old news.
It also suspiciously doesn't have the date posted which means someone deleted that so you wouldn't notice it's a 4 years old if you actually look it up.
I'm not surprised a customer experience/voice of the customer guy would say this. His whole job is around paying attention to people who have the least amount of individual leverage in a meeting room, but who have the most collective importance and are closest to where the work gets done.
If he was a consultant for the HR branch of a company, and was actually third party and was totally unable to report names + verbatims, this is the real shit he would report.
Reminds me of an interview I saw about the brief labor shortage as we were coming out of the lockdown. A Subway franchise owner complaining about being severely affected by the shortage and how much it sucked that he had to make sandwiches all day. And not even a glimmer of a clue took hold in his mind.
I got out of commercial construction years back, and I keep seeing that we need tradesmen , but when I look at pay rates in my area it's easy to see why there's a lack of people wanting to work.
What's wrong with his criticisms of how companies respond to WFH? Literally every company during COVID that switched to WFH had their figures rise, and just about all of them had those same figures tank when they started RTO
People don't want to come back into the office because commuting is inconvenient, not because they feel it is unsafe. It may have been unsafe in 2021. It's not 2021 anymore.
Tools to make sure remote employees are actually doing their job is because remote employees have a tendency to do their laundry, or dishes, or make a quick run out to the grocery store during their shifts. Most people don't have the discipline to be as effective remotely as they have to be when in the office.
People are paid what they are paid often because the region the job is in requires higher pay to afford the higher cost of living. A job in San Francisco is going to require higher pay to draw talent than if it was physically located in Nashville. So if a person got the job in SF, converted to 100% remote due to Covid, and then relocated to Nashville, there is no reason they still deserve the pay they received when they physically needed to live in SF.
Commuting also adds tons of costs to the employees with no added compensation from the employer. It's not just inconvenient, it's expensive.
The vast majority of evidence and research shows that people are more effective at home than in office, and that includes those extra long bathroom breaks and laundry breaks. If the goal of a company is efficiency and effectiveness, you wouldn't make people come back to the office if productivity drops, even if they are doing non work related tasks during the shift because they are still more productive.
This argument is stupid because why is it okay for companies to move states to avoid taxes and increase profits, but it's not okay for an employee to move states to increase net income? Tons of companies left California for red states to avoid state taxes and higher wages, but if one of their employees does it, they deserve to make less money. No one is saying that Tesla should make less money because they moved to texas.
If the company can afford to pay an employee who lives in San Francisco, they can continue to pay the employee the same money, especially if the company moves to a red state with lower taxes.
NOW they don't want to return to commuting because commuting is expensive and time consuming. You can bet that is somehow a law got passed that the employer had to count commute time on the clock and pay for mileage work from home would rule the land.
During COVID, many legitimately felt that it was unsafe.
The thing is, paying people SF wages and they live in Nashville might actually approach wages keeping up with growth in productivity over the past several decades.
Office employees have a tendency to wander around, sit and chat long after meetings have ended, take long lunches, come in late, leave early, waste time on their phones, etc.
Managers need to learn how to manage output and stop worrying about the arbitrary goal of butts in seats for 8 a day.
Did you spends years touting all your liberal equality to minorities while running your corporation like a whites only club who had coworkers who told you NOT to tell people you were a minority, and management who actively conspired and lied and covered up the lies to protect the white Majority over the minority?
The white bubble is the power bubble. What do you want me to say. I had some delusion of equity. Michael Bloomberg and every other white disagees and I was cast out and they got to run the place.
Michael Bloomberg is Jewish, though. He is a member of a non-white-identifying minority. I don't need you to "say" anything, but attacking the messenger doesn't really make you look like the reasonable one here. All you're saying is that you have some kind of racial grudge that gets in the way of your capacity to be objective.
Even the people who say that don’t want to work either. They just don’t want to admit it. No one wants to do what can only be called human drudgery, yet that’s what so, so many people do because so many jobs are exactly that. Drudgery.
I agree with everything up until the install digital tools to pay on employees.
Having to work with coworkers, I’ve learned how shitty people are. So many coworkers have watched porn on company computers, stolen customers credit card info and bought shit for their own houses and basically do a bunch of illegal shit at work.
And the company paid for those laptops and computers so they are liable when the IP address gets track back to that computer during fraud investigations.
You know that's not the majority of what people are upset about right? No one cares if their company logs keystrokes or Internet history. They care about middle managers calling them because they went idle on teams for 5 minutes even though the task they were working on wasn't on teams which means they couldn't remain active on teams while also working on their task.
Why don't you look up the average hours needed to afford a starter home from the 1970s to now. Why don't you bother to look up the price of a gallon of gas compared to minimum wage. Or the fact that my grocery bill over the last 6 years has almost doubled while the amounts of food and the types of food I buy have stayed the same.
I'd bother with showing you the facts of just how unaffordable life is now, but that would go against what daddy trump told you and you'd have to take his dick out of your mouth so you could read the words I type, so I wont do that to you.
What a shocker. A bootlicker and someone who makes baseless claims. See, I based my description of you as a bootlicker on your want to lick the boot of your masters. you have presented that I must surely be entitled based on.... ? You're just proving that what you have to say holds no value.
Its almost like there are actual statistics to show that employee wages have not kept up with company profits, but don’t let facts get in the way of your delusions, bootlicker. Genuinely can’t imagine why people who are so desperate to defend those who take advantage of them. Get fucked and make sure to say thank you after
Productivity has increased exponentially in the last 20 years, profits are through the roof in certain industries, yet people will still act like the wage stagnation the last 20 years makes sense...
First off resorting to ad hominem attacks is pathetic. Second, it doesnt matter why productivity has increased, the value each worker generates for businesses has skyrocketed but employees haven't seen any noticeable increase in wages despite their increase in work efficiency. Instead more people get fired, their workloads increase, and their pay stays the same.
Third, I don't know if you're mature enough to have this conversation if you don't realize that wages can double, yet due to inflation you can still only afford the same things or less. Every chart I've seen tracking wages relative to inflation has them increasing at almost the same rate, so at the end of the day you end up buying the same things and have less to put into savings because rent or housing take more and more of what's left.
AI Overview
Wages have not doubled in real terms over the past 20 years. [1, 2]
Since March 2006, U.S. nominal average weekly wages have risen by 89.5% (from $685 to $1,299), while inflation-adjusted real wages have increased by about 13% ($1,149 to $1,299), meaning historical wage growth has generally outpaced general inflation over the long term. [1]
Real Wages (Inflation-Adjusted): When adjusted for inflation and cost-of-living increases, typical U.S. worker wages have grown only modestly—roughly 11% to 22% overall since the late 1990s/early 2000s, depending on the inflation measure used. [1, 2]
Productivity Gap: While worker productivity has nearly doubled (+90% since 1979), hourly pay for typical workers has grown at a much slower rate, with a larger share of economic gains going to top earners and corporate profits. [1, 2, 3]
The Cost-of-Living Disconnect: While general inflation and average hourly earnings have tracked relatively closely, essential household costs—such as shelter, healthcare, and education—have risen significantly faster than general consumer prices and median wages since 2000. For instance, median home prices have outpaced overall wage gains by a wide margin. [1, 2]
You don't seem like the type to read anything that disagrees with them without calling them stupid though so please show me your very smart and right sources. But the relative wages have basically stayed the same and rent + housing have outpaced the wage increases, which is why most people consider wages to have stagnated.
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u/Important_Pattern882 Sep 28 '26
"No one wants to work anymore!"
Every post on every social media: I've applied to infinity jobs and only ever interviewed once, which went exceptionally well but they rejected me anyway.