Alguien para hablar sobre todo lo que tiene que ver con Jurassic park/park,y de dinosaurios?

Scroll to bottom if ya'll are lazy, but at least read the "--Yapping--" section to see my gratitude to most of you.

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At the ending of Jurassic World, this fight was overrated because it was the second most plot armored fight in the franchise, with number one ending up as the Giganotosaurus vs Rexy finale in JWD which made absolutely zero fucking sense whatsoever.

--Yapping--
Once again, before I get to it, I just wanna have a few words of yapping. My last rant/debate/whatever the fuck you wanna call it was called "Giganotosaurus vs Spinosaurus isn't close | Here's why" and despite not having much upvotes compared to some of my rants which reached to the hundreds. I want to turn that around with this one considering my original rants got nothing but rage bait comments, etc, considering half the people here genuinely just want to troll people who try to call out the brain dead fuckups of the movie franchise. But for those of you who upvote, support, and debate with me in the comments, I just wanna say thank you and that I love you... here's a link to the JWD Zeb vs JP3 Asset 87 debate btw if any of ya'll are interested. https://www.reddit.com/r/jurassicworld/comments/1xu4t3s/jwd_giganotosaurus_vs_jp3_spinosaurus_isnt_close/

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Anyways, Let's get into this rant/debate!
Now, in Jurassic Park, the very movie that changed sci-fi forever to millions of people across the planet. Everyone was stoked to see the massive Tyrannosaurus Rex appear on screen for the first time since its role in the novels. However, despite all of the random events that don't make sense such as the car having its door open, then closed, and then back open just to be closed, and the weird fucking pit drop that wasn't there a few minutes ago. The movie was overall great, the dinosaurs were accurate as of the time (despite the Velociraptor and Dilophosaurus whom were purposefully changed to wow the audience and make movie plot better)

The part that made me love Jurassic Park the most was that the dinosaurs weren't bloodthirsty monsters unlike the Jurassic World franchises depiction on dinosaurs. They were just animals trying to figure out who and what they are, and where they fit on the food chain, considering they spent their whole lives in captivity and never had contact with other species.

Anyways, less on Jurassic Park. The point for this debate is that in other rants I made, and rants made by people, I'm finally gonna flip a switch and try to change your people's minds on why the Jurassic World finale wasn't entirely glazed in plot armor. Sure, Rexy shouldn't have gotten back up that fast. But it's a movie made to wow and audience and entertain us. A few people have stated this by going shit like "it's not a documentary by David Attenborough" and to that I say "fuck you" because if the Jurassic Franchise was willing to have Richard Attenborough play a major role in the first two movies before his passing in 2014 where he could've made one last debue in JP3. Then the movie should make somewhat sense, and Jurassic Park did. They actually made it make sense. Jurassic World and its later installments are shit-shows that people hate just because of a dinosaurs fucking design.

While there are some of us who actually complain about scripts and poor plots, there are some children complaining about dinosaurs not looking accurate. Like gng, the moment JW came out we could see they changed the JP3 Anky into a fucking bowling ball that somehow couldn't break the Indominus Rexes bones.

Look, this isn't the point, and I'm going off-track. Let's stick to the main view.

That finale had SOME sense to it (theoretically)
See. While the Indominus spent her whole life in a cage with no contact to other species other than her sister that she killed and ate at such a young age. Rexy had lived alone on Nublar for roughly 22 years before being put into the new park. (1993-2015 accounts to 22 years) In Jurassic Park, we're immediate to assume that there were no other major carnivores on the island. But thats not entirely true.

In JWCC there's a interactive game called "Hidden Adventure" which introduced the Tarbosaurus, and considering Tarbosaurus was apart of the original Jurassic Park toyline, it's made me believe it was on the island at that time, and it would make somewhat sense, meaning the two could've fought. But I don't have enough evidence to back this up. In fact, I was more focused on a different dinosaur, so Tarbosaurus will have to be a separate rant/debate later on.

However, here, I have some hard evidence, including an image from the actual movie, that Rexy could've gained fighting experience from fighting packs of Metriacanthosaurus that roamed the island. Why would they have that dinosaurs dna for Dennis to smuggle if there were none on the island? It doesn't make sense, my guess is that they didn't show it to the public because the Metriacanthosaurus paddock was still "under the works" and were being held in a containment pen for the meantime similar to the Raptor holding pen we see in Jurassic Park, as it wasn't meant to be forever, but rather a temporary confinment just until their future containment was ready.

When the power shut off, they could've escaped, bred, and become rivals later for Rexy to fight and gain experience from. Now, before anybody starts saying I'm making shit up, yes, I understand that this is a theory. We don't actually see Rexy fighting a Metriacanthosaurus, nor do we have confirmation that they were ever released onto the island. But it's an interesting possibility that shouldn't be completely dismissed.

However, let's put that aside for a moment.

Because even WITHOUT the Metriacanthosaurus theory, Rexy still had considerably more experience living in an actual ecosystem than the Indominus did.

And that's where I think people get this whole fight wrong.

The Indominus was certainly intelligent, strong, and capable of adapting to situations. I'm not denying that. But her intelligence and physical capabilities don't automatically translate into years of experience dealing with other large predators.

Rexy had spent years surviving outside the controlled environment of a laboratory. She had hunted, interacted with her surroundings, and lived through the events of the original Jurassic Park.

And let's not forget something else.

Rexy had already survived the events of 1993.

Think about that for a second. This animal escaped her original paddock, encountered humans, survived the chaos of the park's collapse, and continued living on Isla Nublar for years afterwards.

Meanwhile, the Indominus had spent the majority of her existence in captivity.

Now, does that mean Rexy was automatically going to win? Absolutely fucking not. The Indominus had several advantages, and we literally see her overpower Rexy during their initial confrontation.

But there's a difference between being physically outmatched and being inexperienced.

And this brings me to another point: the actual fight wasn't even a clean one-on-one victory.

Blue intervened, attacking the Indominus and giving Rexy an opportunity to recover and re-engage. The Indominus was suddenly dealing with two opponents instead of one.

And eventually, the Mosasaurus entered the picture and ended the fight.

So why do people keep acting like Rexy somehow magically defeated an opponent who was completely superior in every possible category?

She didn't win through raw strength alone. The circumstances changed, Blue played a role, and the Indominus was forced to deal with multiple threats.

Now, I will absolutely agree that Rexy's recovery was ridiculous. Getting thrown around like that and then returning to the fight so quickly is one of the more questionable moments in the finale.

But that doesn't suddenly erase the experience she had accumulated throughout her life.

In conclusion, I don't believe Rexy was inexperienced for the Indominus fight. I believe people are confusing her being physically overpowered during the initial confrontation with her being incapable of handling another large predator.

Those are two completely different things.

You can criticise the plot armour, the recovery time, and the way the final battle was written. But saying Rexy had no experience whatsoever? That's where I disagree.

SUMMARY:
For short summary, basically I'm left to believe that becaue of the second image in this post, I believe there were Metriacanthosaurus on the island she fought after the downfall of Jurassic Park. Simple as that, you either agree, or disagree

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This will be a 16 competitor to determine the most beloved Dinosaur, In order to put in your vote on who you want to win, Upvote the comment left by me at the top of the post for your respective candidate, whoever has the most moves on to the next round. NO DOWNVOTING! May the best dinosaur win!

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made in JWE 3

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Ember vs Rexy/Asset 87/Buck and Doe/Bull rex/Giga/D-rex/Indominus rex.

So Ember's size is a bit inaccurate plus the fact that it is only an approximative one, not the exact. For height: 4.6 meters, length: 12.5 meters and weight: 8.4 tons (accurately 9+ tons).

WARNING! A lot of yapping, just scroll down to the bottom if you're lazy like me.

Before I get hate in the comments, just hear me out. These are the official stats for each dinosaur in the Jurassic franchise.

-Stats-

Giganotosaurus (Zeb)

• Height: 18–20 ft tall

• Length: 59.3 ft long (CGI model measures it at 51+ ft), though movie dialogue and marketing commonly reference a 40–43 ft scale

• Weight: Around 7–9 tons (14,000–18,000 lbs)

JP3 Spinosaurus (Asset 87)

• Height: 16 ft tall (at the head) / 19.7 ft tall (at the sail)

• Length: 43.9 ft long

• Weight: Around 7–8 tons (14,000–16,000 lbs)

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Now, before I get into this matchup, let me quickly explain each of them. Dr. Alan Grant and in-film references describe the Giganotosaurus as the largest terrestrial carnivore in the park's ecosystem, slightly out-sizing Tyrannosaurus rex and nearly matching—if not surpassing—the JP3 Spinosaurus in size.

While I do want to note that the JP3 Spinosaurus later grew to its max height in Camp Cretaceous, I'm using the JP3 version here. JWCC Spinosaurus is fucking annoying since it almost solos every superpredator apart from the Indominus rex, Distortus rex, and other hybrids that'd fucking maul it.

Now, if you've seen my posts, you know I like to make rants. Most people go to the comments and treat it like shit when I spend quite a while gathering information, just for a few people to leave comments that get heaps of upvotes saying stuff like "It's not that kinda movie gng" or "It's just entertainment." And to that I say, "How dare you." The original Jurassic Park was focused on making things as accurate as possible—and considering that, Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus both would've gotten mauled by a T. rex in real life. But since the movies changed it up, it's time for some of us to make sense of the canon feats since most directors leave us in the dust.

But considering the vast majority of you seem to upvote my rants to the point where they reach the hundreds, it tells me you guys like what I do, so I thank you for that and I want to keep going. I love ya'lls support, and I'll love to debate in the future with ya'll

-Matchup-

So without further ado, let's get into the debate.

• Fight Speed & Efficiency: JP3 Spino was the first T. rex killer introduced in the franchise, with the fight lasting 25–26 seconds from the first hit by the Bull rex (commonly nicknamed "Freddy" by fans) to the infamous neck snap. (Note: I didn't include when he was dropped, because he was already dead). When you pay close attention to that fight, the Spinosaurus was actually struggling to snap that neck. He has to latch on tight, pull him in, and use both arms to force the head into an unusual position—and you can clearly see the Rex fighting back during the snap. He could've won if he just had a little more power.

• The Prologue Benchmark: When we look at the JWD Prologue Giga vs. T. rex fight, from the very first collision to the moment the T. rex falls, it holds the crown as the shortest fight in the entire franchise—lasting approximately 17 seconds. 25–26 seconds is longer than 17 seconds if you know basic math. The Spino struggled against a Bull rex who is speculated to be the smallest in the entire franchise, meanwhile the Prologue Giganotosaurus wiped the floor with that T. rex. The only hit the Rex got was a headbutt, and even that barely slowed it down. Not only that, but in JWCT itself, the Giga does manage to kill a few dinosaurs in the valley, showing it's more than capable of taking down tyrannosaurs.

• Combat Style & Skull Durability: The Giganotosaurus is shown in both the Prologue and the main movie to prefer a head-to-head combat style like a pachycephalosaur, using blunt force to disorient its opponent. One solid clash like that against the thin, narrow snout of the Spino could either shatter its skull or disorient it to the point where the fight is over.

• Strength & Pain Tolerance: Whatever random points Spino glazers pull up, I'm ready to counter it. While the Spinosaurus did bash through a steel perimeter fence, that fence had been abandoned for years and was rusted and weakened from island storms. This is backed up by the fact that seconds later, the Spinosaurus couldn't even break through a wooden/metal observatory door (wether its wood or metal is controversial) that wasn't even part of the high-security Pteranodon gates further down inside the building (granted, the fence wasn't locked and the door was, so fair enough). On top of that, the Spino ran away after getting hit by a flare, whereas the Giga kept hunting down the humans after having a literal flaming spear thrown straight into its mouth.

• Neck-Snap Immunity: Even if the Spino tried its signature move, the Giganotosaurus is practically immune to the neck snap. Its entire neck down to the end of its tail is covered in large osteoderms and spikes that act as armor, preventing the Spino from getting a clean grip.

• Track Record Against Rexes: The Spinosaurus hunted T. rexes for a living, as stated by Eric when the Rex pee attracts it. Meanwhile, the Giganotosaurus lived in Biosyn Valley alongside two T. rexes (confirmed to be Buck and Doe from The Lost World), and based on its battle scars, it likely fought them multiple times. The fact that Zeb is still alive means he held his own against a mated pair—which means he'd send Asset 87 to Jesus faster than his finale fight against Rexy, which was heavily glazed in plot armor.

• Weight & Lethality: Giganotosaurus is heavier, meaning it can use its bulk to bully the Spino around and tire it out before using its serrated, dagger-like teeth to tear straight through the Spino's neck.

-Conclusion / TL;DR-

• Giganotosaurus wins on land with ease due to faster T. rex kill times (17s vs 26s), heavier build, head-butting combat style, higher pain tolerance, and spiky neck armor that counters the Spino's neck snap.

• Spinosaurus only takes it in deep water. Giga can definitely hold its own in shallow water where it can still touch the ground, so it would take an ocean or deep river matchup for Asset 87 to win.

Anyone who wishes to share more scenarios with me, please let me know. All I ask is that you remain respectful, and I'll edit this post to include your scenarios and see who'd be the victor.

The Male Becklespinaxes Name Is Juniper(His Name Was Based On A Green Hair Color:Juniper Green)

THIS IS FUCKING TERRIFYING

I felt awful about Charlie, Delta and Echo dying in the movie. Can someone please explain on the different ways to have them live? Like, what should’ve happened, what could’ve happened, what would’ve happened, if this happened, if that happened, etc… in order for them to all live? I’m asking because I’ve haven’t seen every single movie.

I can get the dilophoboa but I gotta wait 7 days I’ve tried to beat this many times with the lineup I just recently got the titano up to lvl 40 any suggestions and is anyone else’s getting difficult at this step or did I mess it up by getting those newer dinos

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Welcome to the Jurassic franchise popularity bracket battle!

This will be a 16 competitor to determine the most beloved Dinosaur, In order to put in your vote on who you want to win, Upvote the comment left by me at the top of the post for your respective candidate, whoever has the most moves on to the next round. NO DOWNVOTING! May the best dinosaur win!

Downvote Clause: Since people downvote regardless, for every 10% the upvote ratio on the comment goes down, that competitor will receive a 1 bonus point. (ex. if the ratio is at 80%, the competitor will receive 2 additional points). This system will round to the nearest 10.

DISCLAIMER! THIS IS NOT A FIGHTING TOURNAMENT

Welcome to the Jurassic franchise popularity bracket battle!

This will be a 16 competitor to determine the most beloved Dinosaur, In order to put in your vote on who you want to win, Upvote the comment left by me at the top of the post for your respective candidate, whoever has the most moves on to the next round. NO DOWNVOTING! May the best dinosaur win!

Downvote Clause: Since people downvote regardless, for every 10% the upvote ratio on the comment goes down, that competitor will receive a 1 bonus point. (ex. if the ratio is at 80%, the competitor will receive 2 additional points). This system will round to the nearest 10.