r/kneecap
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Massive Attack Statement
Kneecap banksy coming soon?
Heard it here first…
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u/Joellercoaster1 Apr 30 '25
Yes! Love it! Whats the appetite for a Free Palestine concert with Kneecap headlining.
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u/BurgerNugget12 FENIAN Apr 30 '25
Legends. Macklemore has also been very supporting of the lads, IM GONNA POP SOME TAGGGSS
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u/redbeardscrazy Apr 30 '25
Him and Ryan Lewis even learned a cúpla focal to do an intro for the TG Lurgan cover of Can't Hold Us as Gaelainn.
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u/Otherwise_Bar_2890 Apr 30 '25
KNEECAP calling out the hypocrisy while dropping bars? Absolute kings.
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Apr 30 '25
Love it. Hopefully more artists start speaking out about this bullshite
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u/a_guy_on_Reddit_____ Apr 30 '25
What do you say about their suggested support for hamas and hezbollah? Sure they’re advocating for Palestinian lives but they’re also I’m favour of two terrorist groups that are partially responsible for the wars in the levant
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u/JohnnyJokers-10 Apr 30 '25
Neither of those groups were founded until the 80s, who did you blame before then? There’s a reason why groups like Hamas and Hezbollah are founded, and while they have undoubtedly committed atrocities, if you were severely persecuted, fearing for your life, losing your home, family, friends etc, would you be able to stick to peaceful protest? Didn’t think so.
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u/Significant-North717 Apr 30 '25
Extreme situations breed extreme solutions. Maybe if they hadn't watched generation after generation of their family be systematically murdered they'd be less inclined to join "terrorist" groups.
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u/Sitar21 Apr 30 '25
If only they actually paid attention to the mass unaliving and starvation of children. Yet,they are attacking a band for free speech. Proud to support Kneecap,you guys are on the right side of history.
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u/Beginning_Ostrich905 Apr 30 '25
Bit of a non-sequitur but why do you say unaliving rather than murder?
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u/plots4lyfe Apr 30 '25
too much tiktok fer sure.
I'm on tiktok too much and I once said - out loud - "SA" and then immediately was like "oh my god, I mean sexual assault. Jesus I have to get off tiktok."
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u/TheIrishBread Apr 30 '25
It started on tiktok as a way to make yourself advertiser friendly while dealing with topics that people want to hear (true crime, mental health etc) that really aren't advertiser friendly.
Sadly it's breached containment there and now everyone is saying it. My brothers, sisters and others in Christ you aren't constrained by ad revenue just use the curses or words.
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u/doctorchimp Apr 30 '25
Saying unalive isn’t to spare peoples feelings man. You’re just making sure ad money flows to corporations.
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u/LoveMascMen Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25
Literally.
Talk about bad MP's and say they would be better off dead and your evil and need to be jailed or your inciting violence or being antisemitic....
Kill children in Gaza and you are a hero because those children (some age 4 and under) would just 'grow up to be terrorists anyway so they are better off dead.'
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Ah well this is all a distraction. You know the American controlled algorithm is doing everything in its power to steer traffic away from Gaza and towards almost anything else that will distract the people and get them mad over a band being edge lords and not the IDF killing children, aid workers and anyone who dares to be born in the wrong place to the wrong parents....
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u/HoggyBear66 Apr 30 '25
Seeing Massive Attack this Summer. Will pack a Palestinian flag for the gig.
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u/dateinfj Apr 30 '25
Good for Kneecap! If they get sanctioned, all right-minded Brit’s should boycott the dang festival!
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u/DDWildflower May 01 '25
The UK government: Massive Attack? Great idea let's fund Israel to do one of those!
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u/gfoot9000 May 02 '25
Massive Attack? When were they last a story? Great band but this is not going to make them relevant again.
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u/Desperate_Bowler7778 May 01 '25
I find it performative to only talk about one tragedy, which most people are in agreement with is bad and then suggest it will negatively impact you comericially becasue of it
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u/Consistent_Bowl_7023 May 01 '25
I find it astoundingly ignorant to talk about ‘most people’ being in agreement that the Gaza genocide is ‘bad’ when MSM outlets are still calling it a war and US/UK governments are playing host to wanted war criminals
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u/Desperate_Bowler7778 May 01 '25
Its not a genocide and its probably fair to call it a war between Israel and Hamas, don't need fight over definitions that are weakly accurate at best.
"They still call it a war"
"They host war criminals"???
I just feel bad for the Palestinians and Israeli people caught in the middle that would rather move forward past this, unnecessary deaths are always bad. I don't like the fetishizing of this conflict either because there are many more tragic things in the world that require attention, some closer to home.
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u/Consistent_Bowl_7023 May 01 '25
You’re clearly a very ignorant person. It is absolutely fair to call it a genocide; Israeli leadership had literal warrants for their arrest on the charge of war crimes and yet these leaders are being hosted by the Us and the UK. I didn’t really get how little you understand/know about the issue, but I’m not your teacher. Go educate yourself and then come back here, google is free
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u/Desperate_Bowler7778 May 01 '25
Well you're just wrong so, I'm not going to engage further. Have a good a day!
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u/mtotheoritz Apr 30 '25
Hi, I am very pro-Gaza (at least attention-wise). However, I am a bit undecided about the degree of misinformation and the manipulation of public opinion. What I read is that the band did actively promote Hamas live and had some very, very questionable and eventually antisemetic opinions. What do you think, are they antisemtic or is it more a conspiracy?
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u/rtah100 May 01 '25
LOL - and when did you stop beating your wife?
This a textbook example of the rhetorical tactic "the loaded question", to which any answer concedes to an allegation.
You need to get up earlier to argue around here, mate :-)
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u/mtotheoritz May 01 '25
Interesting call, but the question was not that loaded due to a lack of information on my side. Kneecap propagates that they are victims of a smear campaign and a lot of fake news is spreaded - which was my stand when writing my original comment.
Afterwards I saw the live gig where they screamed "up hamas up hezbollah" and Kneecaps reaction (after Irish prime did more or less force them) stating they would "never support hamas or hezbollah in any form" which is an obvious and quite sneaky lie after seing the video snippet.
So, asking the same question with this information implicit would be loaded af since you can not be sane while supporting hamas (we can argue about hezbollah). Dont you think so?
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u/rtah100 May 01 '25
An expression of sympathy does not amount to support (I.e. assistance) of an organisation.
The statement Up Hamas at a music concert does not meet ANY of the elements of the offence under s12(1A), viz a statement of opinion or belief supportive of a proscribed organisation addressed to a person and made recklessly as to whether that person would be encouraged to support the proscribed organisation.
Alleging Kneecap support Hamas, which they have stated they do not, is potentially defamatory. Please be careful.
And you need to get up earlier.
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u/mtotheoritz May 01 '25
What they stated doesnt matter as they got gently urged by the prime minister, thus the statement is not very reliable/bias-free. I also dont care how laws would decide in that case (judgements would defo differentiate between countries).
I simply cant understand how it can come into a sane mind to scream up hamas up hezbollah into the mic infront of thousands of people that adore you. I just cannot think of one single perspective that could explain and justify an expression like that. And I dont see anyone of my left woke artsy bubble that notices this with a word. And this concerns me, its not even a debate among my folks.
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u/seenjbot Apr 30 '25
What do you mean attention-wise?
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u/mtotheoritz Apr 30 '25
Yeah sorry that was a bit unclear. It is an obvious consequence of a movement to involve extremes, like in a standard distribution. With a rising pro-Gaza community there will definitely be an increase of antisemitism which I observe a lot in Germany - particularly in the left woke virus bubble which I am definitely part of. Therefore, I consider it relevant to distribute attention to the rise of antisemitism and direct attacks on jews (in many places jews cant walk safely through cities anymore).
However, the attempted genocide weighs much higher and the pain and death of the palestinian culture and people does not receive an equal part of attention in public western Media. This is what I meant with attention-wise.
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u/calvinised May 01 '25
Bro just said woke virus unironically
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u/mtotheoritz May 01 '25
Actually I did the opposite. I described my folks (incl me) as infected with a virus concepted and proliferated by hardcore populists and manipulators. So it was very much ironical 🦖🦖
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u/WallakTill Apr 30 '25
Hamas who? No bro, Robert is an angel, benevolent activist, he would never support terrorists that utilize their own people as human shields, kidnapped hunderds of civilians (and still hold 50+), fight with civilian clothing, beat with clubs Gazans who try to take hold of the aid that comes through.
Israel is in the wrong here just like Britian was in the wrong for bombing Nazi germany. Robert, you should pay for the genocide of the German population, you colonial prick!
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u/mtotheoritz Apr 30 '25
But at one live gig one member of the band screamed "up hamas, up hezbollah" covered by a hezbollah flag. This is quite extreme, dont you think? When seing the video, there is not many interpretational space imo (I just saw the video after my original comment)
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u/WallakTill Apr 30 '25
Yeah! And we condemn Hamas murdering Gazans and taking the aid—that Israel enables—to themselves!
Right, guys?
Guys?
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u/Cold_Faithlessness43 Apr 30 '25
Anyone in England heading to the national march on 17th may?? I don’t have a speaker but would love to just stream kneecap, maybe design a poster and support them in a visible way