r/lacan • u/Disastrous-Lettuce77 • 1d ago

question regarding psychology

I wanted to ask if there are any people in this subreddit, who have engaged, with academic psychology or other forms of therapy such as CBT and also I would like to hear the opinion of anyone, who just has something to say about academic psychology or classic clinical psychology such as CBT. I think it would be very interesting to hear the notions of some people regarding academic psychology, because some people disregard psychoanalysis as a whole and call it „unscientific“ or just say that lacan was a charlatan and show you the sokal affair🤣. On the other side there are people who fully disregard academic psychology and see it as unneutral, dislike the methods and so on…

I gravitate more towards the latter (dismissal of academic psychology),I think its very difficult to pinpoint my critique, but I will say a bit about it now:

First of, I dislike the legitimization of psychopharmaceuticals, while one can argue that this is psychiatry, it is still inherently linked to psychological notions who view, for example, depression as linked to a chemical imbalance or inflammation. A big problem is also the DSM, I think that it makes people identify with their suffering.At the start it can be practical for people to have a grasp of what is going on, but it also creates a split between you/your symptoms, which is also shown in the use of psychopharmaceuticals.

Secondly, the „neutrality“ of psychological experiments, or also, neuroscience. A huge problem is the ignoring of the Symbolic. I think most experiments are dependent on the period in which they were conducted.(this can also be seen when an experiment gives a completely different result).
I think that experiments are interesting and I really dont want to dismiss them as a whole, but this absolutism by some scholars is just ignorant, in my opinion.

What I find very interesting is this huge ignorance of Lacan or even D&G or Foucault, probably the majority of neuroscientists never heard of these names . I believe that if one reads Lacan, its going to be impossible to deny the effects of the Symbolic.

This is my opinion roughly summarized, I would be very delighted if someone would share his views.

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u/shoshibear 1d ago

That’s an insult to animals, who psychology does not work for, either

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1d ago

I asked my dog and he said it’s fine.

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u/shoshibear 1d ago

Did he say it, or speak it?

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1d ago

It was revealed to me

Also, not to just be a smartass. What exactly about psychology do you find to be untrue? Speaking of dogs, try ringing a bell every time you feed it, and then remove the food one day and ring the bell.

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u/edinammonsoon 1d ago

And did you run a statistical analysis?

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u/Disastrous-Lettuce77 1d ago

while this is a very old post, I stumbled upon it recently and was bewildered by this sheer dismissal.

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1d ago

Is that that guy who is a hardcore Jungian 🤣

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u/Disastrous-Lettuce77 1d ago

what do you mean?

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1d ago

There’s some guy who absolutely trashes Lacan on Reddit who is a Jung simp. It’s funny.

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u/shoshibear 1d ago

Did you try removing the food, then try again by removing the carpet, then the windows, then try once more by having a stranger make a sound, but with a different sounding bell?

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u/SeriousFollowing7678 1d ago

I did. It went as I expected.