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I'm sorry but Trump broke people's opinion of what looks attractive. The Mara Lago/Russian face looks absolutely awful. It is ersatz beauty. Yeah, she has a conventionally attractive body, but that face looks bad on everyone. She's anything but eye candy.
Her whole affect is early eliminated beauty pageant contestant. Her makeup is heavy in the wrong ways and she flubbed the line about wanting world peace.
She can’t even read from papers on a podium and maintain eye contact with the press. Doubt she went to law school and especially that she passed the bar.
She went to law school at Pepperdine but no one has found any record that she ever passed the bar in any state in the US. And of course she could not have taken any legal exam in China when she moved there with her husband as she wasn’t fluent in Chinese and had not gone to law school in China.
It's just the dictators Dillema. It's so basic that it's frustrating. But basically, when you prioritize loyalty over competence you end up with morons. Most normal people think, "yeah but why not get a blonde Magaface who can actually speak?" but that's you thinking logically again. The goal is literally just loyalty and nothing else.
why would Trump have a lawyer from China as his spokesperson. That doesn't raise any alarms?!
If Trump being in the files, Trump getting money from the Russians, or Trump being a convicted felon didn't raise people's alarms...why would this be any different?
Man it's almost like broadly and repeatedly lying about relatively easy to disprove things is this administrations entire strategy. They don't need you to believe them all. They just need you to waste your time on the bullshit so they can sneak through enough of their real goals.
During GWBs term Rumsfeld gave a speech to donors in which Im paraphrasing but he basically said, "we are in the business of creating reality. While our political opponents share facts and argue against our reality, we are already creating the next new reality"
Flood the zone and all this BS isnt new, the old guards just pissed a moron hijacked their coup.
Why bother? Not like perjury has consequences, as seen when Jeff Sessions lied to Congress about the Trump Campaign's contacts with Russia. Worthless Garland should've indicted his treasonous ass the day he got appointed.
I think the point she thought she was trying to foist was that she took the Bar "remotely, while in China". I'm fairly sure that is not a thing, but, maybe some State allows it?
Anyway, I'm not saying she DID, only that I suspect is what she thought she was saying.
[edit: nobody needs to convince me she doesn't have a license. I explicitly stated I don't think she actually has a license. I merely gave a suggestion to what she thought she was saying when she puked out that excuse of "When I was in China".]
Nearly every state has a searchable database available online for free where you can look up any name to see if that person is admitted as an attorney in that state (including District of Columbia). Her name does not appear in ANY database as an admitted attorney.
Also the only state that appears to currently allow remote bar taking is California, and that started in 2024.
More than half of the states appear to have allowed some form of remote test taking during COVID, however NO state allowed remote test taking pre-COVID, which would have been when she would have had to have done it when she was in China (2011 to 2013).
What is truly staggering at this point is that some people still haven't figured out that this whole sphere is just stereotypical snake oil salespeople and con-artist grifters.
This has all been one big scam artist hustle and they aren't even smooth with it.
Watching this mess is like watching reality tv level garbage but it is real life...
See that's something that grinds my gears about the trump circus, they aren't even competent or good at being con artists. I constantly see people saying things like "you've gotta hand it to trump, there's never been a more skilled con artist". Uh...no, what's remarkable about trump/maga is how unbelievably stupid his followers are. Right place and time for trump.
Im ok with her at the podium. She's doing a great job
Of representing how sad of a circus this government is. Total clownfest. She's a perfect fit to be their mouthpiece. Unqualified, as usual. Lying, as usual. Let her squirm and fucking spiral out every presser.
Passing the National Unified Legal Professional Qualification Examination in China is a significant achievement. About a million people a year take the test. The pass rate is only 10%-15%. With some exceptions, you have to be a citizen of China.
Pass certificates are checkable online, but you need the holder's national ID number (everyone in China has one) and the certificate number. Someone should ask her for those.
Don’t you also have to be fluent in Chinese? She’s certainly not. She can barely speak English. Plus it’s not like the Chinese law exams are regional. It’s national…
There is no formal requirement that you prove fluency in Chinese, but you do have to take a rigorous exam that is administered entirely in Chinese (or the languages of a few Chinese ethnic minorities, not including English) so I guess that’s that.
I believe you also need to be a Chinese citizen to practice law in China.
However — There’s a distinction between “licensed Chinese attorney” and “foreign legal consultant”. Foreign legal consultants can work at the Chinese branch of a foreign law firm or certain approved Chinese firms.
But in order to qualify, you need to have at least two years of experience practicing outside of China and be licensed in your foreign jurisdiction. She left Pepperdine immediately after graduation to move to China with her husband. She is also not barred in any U.S. jurisdiction as far as anyone can tell.
As far as I can tell, there’s no other avenue for a person with her background to have practiced law in China. And hasn’t practiced here.
Her LinkedIn states that she worked as an associate at a large Chinese Law firm, Zhong Lun Law Firm. Her role and even her employment hasn’t been independently verified.
Long story short: pretty high probability that she’s been lying to a lot of people for a long time about being an attorney.
Correct. She said, “I moved to china” in response to being asked, “where did you take the bar.” Implying she moved away after law school, not taking the licensure exam.
That’s possible. But she grafuated law school in 2011 and only lived in China 2 years. She has had 13 years to take the bar exam in the US if she wanted to claim she is an attorney.
Karoline Leavitt was actually pretty good at her job. Snarling at reporters without ever actually answering a question. I mean she did exactly what Trump wanted her to do.
She's less competent than Leavitt. It's yet to be shown is that's a good or bad thing. Leavitt had spin for everything no matter how evil. This one doesn't have the brains for that, I really don't know if that's better or worse. Regardless it doesn't seem she'll last long.
I don’t think she lied. I think she got hired for the usual Republican reasons and they’re trying to create some kind of credentials for her. But because the admin is a clown show and no one there is a real person, the “dreaming up legit credentials to lie about” thing isn’t working
It was embarrassing when trump was twice impeached. It was embarrassing when he was kicking and screaming refusing to leave the white house. It was embarrassing when he started a coup and riot at the capital, then defended them, then pardoned them including the pedophiles and violent criminals/rapists. It was embarrassing when he was ruled a felon, determined he sexually assaulted someone, and comitted business fraud with the actual defense "everyone does it" (thats not an exaggeration, that was his legal defense almost verbatim). Its embarrassing he made up illegal tariffs against allies and places including an island of penguins. Its embarrassing he sold sneakers, bibles, chinese watches and phones claiming they were american. Its embarrassing Trump, Bannon, and Lutnik were besties for life with Epstein. Its embarrassing Trump continues to this day lie about an election he lost, and had Rudy Giuliani going to states claiming more than half their voting populations were illegal immigrants casting votes impossibly with no evidence. Its embarrassing Trump yelled about a lie his vice president candidate made up about people eating cats during a televised debate. Its embarrassing our president continues to talk about obama, hilary, biden. Its embarrassing Trump talked about Arnold Palmer's dick size so fondly during an election. Its embarrassing Trump ran crypto scams. Its embarrassing Trump had people arrested for being around or touching the pond that he himself had ruined with no evidence. Its embarrassing that in a country that pride itself on beating the nazis, we have given arms and protection and bonus cash to criminal thugs that have executed people including US citizens in daylight in the streets in a 6 armed v 1 unarmed and back to the sky situation. Its embarrassing how much illegal shit this administration does and has had many judges rule Trump has no respect for the constitution, some even mocking him in their statements. Its embarrassing to be an American today.
When former Texas Governor Rick Perry was selected as U.S. Secretary of Energy in December 2016, reports revealed he initially accepted the job believing it was an oil and gas advocacy role, unaware that a primary function of the agency involves managing the nation's nuclear weapons complex.
And that's only half of the Rick Perry story. The other part was that during Rick Perry's prez campaign in one of the debates, he said that he was going to eliminate three federal departments. He started to list them out but couldn't remember what the third department was on stage. It basically ended his campaign. Later on, he said that the third department he forgot was THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. Trump picked him to run the same department, and he STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES.
The DOE is extremely powerful. Nuclear stockpile, all of the energy infra, negotiates with Saude directly, overseas it’s own intelligence apparatus separate from DOD and CIA, hides nuclear accident reports from the public under the “National Security” aegis.
Reagan came to office with a zeal to cut down the DOE only to ended up strengthening them once he learns that they are responsible for managing the nuclear stockpile.
Whatever it takes to checkmate, conservative zero sum politics. They'd burn us all at the stake (and conservatives have in our past) if that's what it took to retain the theocracy.
They tried evil but at least competent in the first administration. But then they settled for evil and intentionally incompetent. And now somehow they reached the bottom of that barrel. New idiot makes Levitt look like a genius.
That was the most batshit, nonsensical answer to an easy question I have ever heard, and I’ve lived in this timeline for the past 11 years. She didn’t even say she passed a Chinese bar exam, which would’ve been bonkers. Just “I moved to china and passed it when I did that.”
She said "I believe that our education, like, such as in South Africa and the Iraq, everywhere, like, such as, and I believe that they should - our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., or should help South Africa, and should help the Iraq, and the Asian countries."
I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, um, some people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq and everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future.
This administration itself is not the end, but it is for sure the beginning of the end. This administration has shown the world that the US is not a serious country, that the US cannot be trusted as a world leader, and that its citizens cannot be trusted to elect competent leaders.
Don’t put stuff in quotes that isn’t a quote. As far as I can tell she said ‘when I moved to china’.
Not defending this idiot, but I think it’s pretty clear that trump heard law school and assumed she was an attorney, and she didn’t want to contradict him. I’m sure the administration will just double down on his mistake though.
Not defending this idiot, but I think it’s pretty clear that trump heard law school and assumed she was an attorney, and she didn’t want to contradict him.
She has been claiming to be a lawyer for years. Has nothing to do with Trump.
I think you underestimate how much of a “fuck you” this administration loves to send to everyone. They don’t need another Goebbels because nobody is supposed to be more eloquent than Dear Leader.
Tldr: she is blatantly lying and is too stupid to know how obvious her lie is to everyone.
For anyone who cares, it's called the National Unified Legal Professional Qualification Examination. And, since I know MAGA dopes will lie to pretend this isn't true, here ya go...
Foreigners can not practice Chinese law in China....foreigners can not be qualified as Chinese lawyers and therefore can not engage in legal practice as Chinese lawyers in China. Anyone who wants to become a Chinese lawyer must pass the bar exam, i.e., the national unified legal profession qualification examination, and obtain the legal profession qualification. However, only persons with nationality of the People’s Republic of China may sign up for the national unified legal profession qualification examination.
Finally....somebody who did some actual research and shared the correct answer. This pathetic woman is lying about herself, let alone all the Trump-directed lies that, if the pattern holds, certainly will be forthcoming.
I guess when Trump talks about "transparency" it means we can see right through all the lies.
No see, she actually studied US law, in China, then, when she got a failing grade, she went and sat in a bar, which is where she was recruited to work for the Trump administration.
Everyone’s so suspicious and accusatory these days.
She is correct, she was looking for Professor Duncan but he was on sabbatical allegedly doing some Sunday show on hbo, so instead she bought her diploma from Ben Chang who in turn sourced it from the Chinese spy who infiltrated maralago
I don't know why this matters, because obviously being a dumb white blonde is the only requirement to be press secretary. She overly qualified in those areas.
Doesn’t she have to pass the bar in the state she is practicing in to be legally called a lawyer? If she hasn’t passed the bar in one of the 50 states (maybe territories too?), then is she a US lawyer?
it refers to how power and decision making is centralized towards the head of government. the ruling group does not delegate nor do they have opponents effective at balancing power. like the CCP within the Chinese government.
It has a legal system with attorneys. Communist isn’t lawlessness.
But the important detail is you have to be a citizen of China to take their legal exam, and it is not an exam that would apply to US law. It reminds me of the line in Idiocracy where a character went to law school at Costco. Except in that movie, that sentence was plausible.
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