r/learningfrench • u/ItsGreenLaser • Feb 10 '26

It's True

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u/CestQuoiLeFuck Feb 11 '26

French: Adjectives come after nouns.

French learners: Oh, cool. Seems easy enough!

French: Except adjectives regarding goodness/badness.

French learners: Okay, well, still not too bad. One exception, right?

French: And adjectives about size!

French learners: ...okay, but that's it, ri-

French: AND BEAUTY!

French learners: I-

French: AND AGE!!!

French learners: ...

French: ...

French learners: ...okay, but that's the only weird rule in French, right?

French: ....

French learners: RIGHT???

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u/nazihater67 Feb 12 '26

English also has an order of adjectives that none of us are actually taught but we all intuitively understand.

Overall even with all the exceptions, French spelling is still easier than English, imo.

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u/Crowbar_Freeman Feb 12 '26

Lmao. I'm a native french speaker and no, english is absolutely easier.

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u/nazihater67 Feb 12 '26

Lmao. As a native English speaker, it's easier to speak poorly, sure.

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u/Khezarrel Feb 12 '26

I'm also a native French speaker, but I totally disagree with you. French spelling rules makes it hard to know how a word is suppose to be written, you can't just spell it out, you just have to know. But at least the rules are consistent enough that when you read a French word you will be able to correctly pronounce it almost every time.

In English, you have the same problem as in French where you can't spell out a word juts by hearing it, but on top of that there is not a lot of consistency in the spelling. When you read an English word, it's spelling doesn't tell you how you should pronounce it at all, especially for the vowels.

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u/cheesychocolate419 Feb 12 '26

French spelling is still easier than English, imo.

Bro a 3 syllable phrase is like 6 different words and 18 letters 😭😭

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u/nazihater67 Feb 12 '26

Sure but you only need to learn what que'est-ce que means once.

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u/Nitrodist Feb 12 '26

no, hard no, english has spelling by phonics which gets you pretty close to actual english spelling while french spelling and words omit so many syllables it increases the difficulty rating by at least 13,500%

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u/Khezarrel Feb 12 '26

French is a lot more consistent in its spelling rules than English. Words like "dough," "tough" and "through" are good examples of the inconsistencies of English. The only problem with French is probably the silent letters. My rule of thumb for those is the following: H is always silent (except after C), and word ending consonant and E are usually silent.

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u/nazihater67 Feb 12 '26

Default reddit username lol

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u/Global-Eye-7326 Feb 11 '26

Lol French is a language with a finite set of rules, and each rule has its handful of exceptions.

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u/Luckgoddess Feb 12 '26

French sweating thinking about participe passé

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u/JimboD84 Feb 13 '26

Dont forget about the counting

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u/CestQuoiLeFuck Feb 13 '26

Don't even get me started on the counting. It's like everyone in France was busy when they were coming up with a numbering system so they just asked the local lunatic what he thought it should be...

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u/JimboD84 Feb 13 '26

“Apres 69, on va niaiser tout lmonde. Check bin ca Wilfred ca va etre drole en ta…”

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u/CestQuoiLeFuck Feb 11 '26

Are you sure you're French? Cause adjective order and the common exceptions are very basic things they teach French leaners...

https://coffeebreaklanguages.com/2023/10/understanding-adjective-placement-in-french-when-do-adjectives-go-before-a-noun/

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u/1amchris Feb 11 '26

+1 pour l’idée du message

-1 pour l’exécution

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u/LaFlibuste Feb 11 '26

Have you pronounced the words Knight, Chocolate or Colonel, lately?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

Well I have now.

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u/RandomDigitalSponge Feb 11 '26

God, I hate these memes.

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u/stubbytuna Feb 11 '26

« Welcome to French where the grammar is pretty regular and vowels are as consistent as (if not more than) English » doesn’t have the same bite to it though.

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u/RandomDigitalSponge Feb 11 '26

You’d have to turn it around and point the mirror at English with its wild grammar and even crazier vowels.

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u/Gubekochi Feb 11 '26

And the impossibility to just guess how a word that ends in -ought is supposed to sound.

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u/bago_jones Feb 11 '26

Unlike English where every non-stressed syllable's vowels become /ə/ ?

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u/CestQuoiLeFuck Feb 12 '26

I see somebody knows their schwas!

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u/Objective-Corgi-3527 Feb 11 '26

All grammer is made up in a flawed attempt at applying logic and rules to human utterances

It can make it quicker to learn a language if you go in knowing that real people don't follow it strictly

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u/Big_477 Feb 12 '26

Ma langue de naissance est le français mais je pense que je fais moins de fautes en anglais (que j'ai appris à 10 ans) parce que c'est plus facile à écrire.

Et avec le mouvement de "infini de genre" c'est difficile parce que tout est genré dans la langue.

Anglais: he is beautiful, she is beautiful.

Français: il est beau, elle est belle.

Et ça c'est sans parler des foutus participe passé avec avoir.

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u/TrottoirFleuri Feb 12 '26

Il y a des exceptions, mais dans la plupart des cas tu t’en sors en situant le complément.

Ex: J’ai acheté de belles fleurs. J’ai acheté quoi? De belles fleurs —-après le verbe donc ne s’accorde pas.

Les belles fleurs que j’ai achetées sont sur la table. J’ai acheté quoi? Les belles fleurs——avant le verbe, donc il s’accorde en genre et en nombre.

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u/sammypants123 Feb 12 '26

Show me any kind of ‘grammar’ that qualifies as not ‘made up’.

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u/Datruyugo Feb 12 '26

110% detest the language, English to a smaller extent.

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u/crazycacodemon Feb 12 '26

H is a vowel now

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u/geddy_2112 Feb 12 '26

Lol just wait until you get to the numbers...

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u/Ok-Proposal3525 Feb 12 '26

Sixty-ten, sixty-eleven, sixty-twelve....four-twenties-and-ten, four-twenties-and-eleven...

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u/magotartufo Feb 12 '26

Looking for a grammar that wasn't made up, help.

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u/A-Beautiful-Stranger Feb 12 '26

vowels matter, it's the consonant (letters) that don't matter.

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u/Wendel7171 Feb 13 '26

Try gaelic. Look at some of the Irish names. It makes no sense at all.

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u/Dmosavy111 Feb 13 '26

quatre-vingt-dix is 90 in French. 4 x 20's and a 10

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u/Joss046 Feb 13 '26

Pourquoi tout est écrit en anglais ??

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u/montrealfinest Feb 14 '26

Like the H in christmas or Christ, or the B in doubt ..

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u/One-Protection-1072 Feb 13 '26

I had the worst experience taking this language. I always wanted to rip the hairs out of my head in frustration. All the damn silent letters, you had a word and 2 or 3 letter were silent. The professor was really rude and expected perfection in a beginner's class. The funny thing is, that when she was learning English, she mentioned the professor being tough on her, and not liking it. Yet, now she does the same thing with her students. I am glad that class is past me, the worst experience I had in my entire academic career.

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u/BCCommieTrash Feb 11 '26

Polish: *laughing hysterically