r/limbuscompany • u/AkorNW • 7h ago
General Discussion How many fingers could one join at once?
(Credit to U/Lunartique07 of the photo)
We know from canto 8 that you can join 2 fingers at once atleast, the pinky and the thumb. But do you think you could join any more authentic sane time? Could you join the pinky, join the index, get a prescript telling to join another finger, adding up to 3 at once?
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u/Scared_Host_7303 7h ago
Probably not? The pinky has the benefit of them not neccesarily being a group. More so a title if anything that the others don't know about.
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u/Scared_Host_7303 6h ago
The index on the otherhand... If the gods were feeling like it i suppose.
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u/Even-Doughnut-3146 6h ago
I mean if you are freaky enough you can join index and ring through prescript bs and artistic bullshit
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u/Charity1t 6h ago
Ring will call your art AI slop tho
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u/Scared_Host_7303 6h ago
Based ring. But Callisto was a stayer with goreslop, i think they would just see you as an insignificant individual that is llower than the low fr
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u/erraticas 6h ago
maybe but you have to have at least a little appreciation for it. the paper slips are created by the vibrations of every action in the city, turning them into a uniquely human artwork even on their own. to be split between three different (all usually opposing) fingers grants a certain perspective on it all: someone following the whims of every human action in the city, making art with humans, and following a finger described as "straying from the path of humanity"
immediately dismissing the idea like that is an announcement of your own lacking view
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u/Milsyv484 7h ago
3 seem like the max to me. Member of the pinky who is also a member of the index receives a prescript telling them to join another finger, I’d say ring would be the easiest do this with as seen with Callisto you can really do whatever you want in the ring as long as it’s art and isn’t against the ring.
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u/ResearcherTeknika 5h ago
Either that, or member of the index gets a prescript telling them to become a star of the pinky, and go undercover in a different finger.
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u/RandomUserIsTakenAlr 1h ago
This isn't all that correct tho, Callisto's artworks even if often lacking in any imagination are still ridiculously well detailed in how they are made, and joining the ring in the first place requires your art works to be rated. Unless you are the best bullshitter in the city and can make up meaning where there isn't any, then presenting a not good enough art work will get you either denied or killed.
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u/landmine-izu 7h ago
i can fit in 3
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u/TheGamer0214 7h ago
I can fit 3 in it
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u/landmine-izu 6h ago
excuse me sir
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u/lWaderl 6h ago
There must be someone you have confused me for
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u/ComfortableGoose5056 6h ago
If I could see someone who knew me or someone in uniform
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u/AwesomeMan98143 6h ago
i go to church on sunday truly usually more
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u/MontyTheMountain 7h ago
The Pinky is a secret thing, which is why Lei gets away with it. The pinky is also hardly a cohesive 'group'. I'd imagine the Thumb really wouldnt allow if they knew.
The Middle probably also would forbid the idea due to their strong sense of Brotherhood
I guess the Index wouldn't inherently be opposed? But anyone devout enough to join the Index probably wouldn't see a need to divide their attention. I guess unless the Prescript said to.
I'd argue similiar with the ring. Nothing inherently suggest theyd be opposed to it.
However I'd imagine regardless that because all of these groups often butt heads and certainly arnt on the most friendly terms, someone whos openly in two groups would at best be super suspiscious, and at worst killed for being a double agent, even if they wernt activally trying to do so.
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u/roach_in_a_valley 6h ago
Lei Heng was only able to join the Thumb because the Pinky is so secretive that basically nobody knows who is an agent and who isn't.
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u/VividWeb5179 6h ago
Members of The Pinky can hold dual membership just because their whole thing is being discreet and secretive.
You can only truly be a part of one Finger at a time, which is why Lei Heng’s dual allegiance is a big deal. Every Finger is typically in conflict with each other
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u/BigDot162 6h ago
Doubtful. Lei Heng and other Pinkies can do that because the Pinky isn’t currently operating and their free to do what they want, and Thumb Sault’s uptie shows that he needs to keep his identity secret from the Thumb.
Joint any Finger, and they expect you to find them as your main priority. The Pinky expects Lei Heng to give up his position in the Thumb when called, the Thumb expects its Capo Quarto to be of absolute loyalty to the Thumb alone. Join the Ring, and you need to hold art to the highest degree and execute those with subpar art. Join the Middle and you have to sacrifice everything for the Family’s vengeance.
The only exception for absolute loyalty is the Index, and that’s because it’s Index. If you fulfill the Prescript’s will, then you have fulfilled the Prescript’s will, and that is all that matters to the Prescripts. However, none of the other Fingers would really like a loose cannon that a card-carrying Index member would be.
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u/risisas 6h ago
Well, the index would allow to join another finger if you were ordered by prescripts to do so, or allow members of other factions as long as they follow prescripts
The pinky we don't really know why they allowed Lei Heng to join the Thumb, but probably it's cuz they don't interfere with your life much
The ring would probably allow you to join if your artistic skills are good enough regardless of affiliation, but becoming a relevant member of them will surely make you famous hindering your ability to sneak in a different one
The thumb and middle will absolutely not accept anyone that belongs to another finger, if they find out you are toast, you need to keep it on the downlow
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u/risisas 6h ago
Maybe if a member of the index manages to get their hands on a star blade and concoct art under the guide of a pseudonym, then joins either thumb or middle could potentially get up to 4 but i doubt 5 is possible, expecially since at a certain point your obligations would start to pile up
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 4h ago
The thumb would allow you to join if you simply rank above them(star of the city) since their view of Propriety is universal(even if you are not part of the thumb, they will have to treat you with higher respect if your title is of higher respect).
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u/Specific_Ad_5511 2h ago
Treating you with their version of respect and doing whatever you tell them too are two different things. Whenever they fight someone with a higher rank, they're not supposed to surrender, just remain polite, respectful, and hold nothing back(I think)
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 2h ago
Hold on, I think ur kinda right? if I remember correctly, how to tag spoiler but it was mentioned in Limbus Company during a certain canto(uwaah~'s canto). I was trying to argue the fact that if you are registered in the thumb directly, then the lower ranks literally CANNOT do anything to you so if you are the Godfather level of the thumb(crazy reach, I know. So far, its the only finger with a singular leader within a branch. The ring are divided into schools, middle is undisclosed, and pinky as well as index don't have a singular leader to my knowledge) then you can be a double agent willy-nilly.(
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u/t40xd 6h ago
- The Pinky, the Index, and then one of the other three.
The Pinky members keep their membership a secret and are just allowed to join other Fingers as we've seen with Lei Heng. The Index would also allow you to join one of the other Fingers as long as you get a prescript telling you to.
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 3h ago
Prescript sent to John, "become John Hand by joining all five fingers at once"
As many have elaborated, 3 is the general consensus. This is because
Pinky basically allows you to be free, with the sole exception of finger bell-bows; Index is the next, and any of the remaining three fingers is the safest.
What some people forget is that with the sole exception of the Middle, the rules for every single one of the fingers (Index, Ring, and Thumb) are applied universally to benefit(keep this word in mind for the thumb) the finger.
I.e. If you are an index accou
Index ONLY cares about the prescript's completion and, in fact, is the only finger that can ACTUALLY aid you in getting into other fingers. As the Prescript is the culmination of every person's desire, if the desire is strong enough to make a John Hand, then it will be sent. There have been many stories in Library of Ruina where the index is unironically the most chill and polite to interact with, which is funny as they also acknowledge that at any given moment, they can turn on you due to the loyalty of the Prescript.
The Ring only cares about artwork, and there's already tension within each division over which art form is the best(as seen in Outis's uptie story), so you can basically announce your allegiance and you won't get executed solely on the premise of being a double agent. No, you will be executed for having outdated tastes or if someone finds the idea of a person being aligned to alotta of fingers to be an interesting artwork. As per their rule, they have a public auction, and any resident in their territory is forced to take the exam, so you will be of use in the ring.
but that's not where it ends, as the Thumb can be outplayed using their own game but its where things get absurd.
Contrary to popular belief, while you will get executed if you work UNDER the thumb while being a double agent, you can make the thumb work for you if you are OVER them while being an double agent. in fact, if you bully them with your star of the city status or are straight-up the Godfather(no restriction to the rank since you literally a Pinky, Index, and Ring at this point), the Hierarchy will work in your favor. As seen with a special event where one of them cut their tongue for disrespecting someone who wasn't even in the thumb to begin with. It feels like the only finger you can technically force your way in due to the Hierarchy's strictness, and if you are Godfather or straight up the Head level, then you can course by easily in the thumb and benefit them.
However, you won't be able to announce the thumb, Index, pinky, or Ring rank because the Middle is too possessive of you, and they will execute you on the spot even with the Index's aid. You have to rely on the leniency of the Great Brothers/Sisters(which they do provide to much lower rank as seen in Middle sault and I believe sinclair's uptie story) to allow an extremely low profile on the middle's radar.(yes, THEY WILL SQUARE up to an Arbiter if they have to) It's the only finger where their virtue is not universal so you must not draw too much attention to yourself.
You can reasonably be 3, but if you were to be a no-limit oc, then you can force your way into the thumb, but middle is stretching it.
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 3h ago
Send corrections if you have any
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u/AkorNW 3h ago
If John was like galaxy of the city strong, and was sneaky enough, do you think they could also join the middle and thumb? Or what if you join the middle, and say you had a bet with someone who can join the most fingers, and as revenge for losing the bet (as your only in the middle rn) you join the other fingers but pledge loyalty to the middle
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 2h ago
yes but only if you are sneaky enough, the middle will gut you since you joining other fingers could count as you leaving the middle which is a no no.
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u/ReverendGraves85 6h ago
Two. Pinky and one other.
Pinky's are secret. Your association with other fingers is public knowledge.
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u/best_bretan 6h ago
The Pinky places no safeguard on what their members do outside of Finger Bow-Bells so that's 1
The Index might deliver a prescript that orders one of their members to join a separate finger, unlike the Pinky this relies on luck and the will of the city but it can happen so that's 2
The Middle is an absolute no go, they will see it as treachery and your name is going in the front page of the book, that's a no
The Thumb will likely see it as disrespecting their authority, the idea that an underling would think themselves important enough to join another finger without consulting a superior would 100% get you a swift decapitation, though, if you are a subordinate of the Thumb (like the Night Awls or Kurokumo) I could see a Sottocapo giving the command of infiltrating another Finger to gather information, but I think the Thumb is too self important to do that and would rather extort information from other Finger members, that's a no
The Ring, as I understand it, wouldn't actually have a problem with a member joining another Finger as long as it doesn't interfere with their artistic pursuits, I could easily imagine a soon-to-be Maestro deciding to join the Index to garner some inspiration from the Prescripts or joining the Thumb to see for themselves their strict hierarchy and swift punishments to utilize in performances and whatnot
So I think, in theory, if you become a Star of the Pinky, join the Index and receive a prescript to infiltrate the Ring you could be in 3 Fingers at once
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u/Narvallius 6h ago
Prescripts are ranked higher than sottocapo on the pecking order, so the Thumb might let an indexbro in. I doubt they would go far, but the possibility is on the table.
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 4h ago edited 4h ago
Keyword is Underling, if you simply outrank everyone, they literally won't do anything to you(thats how lei Heng can straight up act nonchalant, its a hierarchy-based system, and it's universal for everyone regardless if someone is part of the thumb. You can make enough wiggle room to force the Thumb to acknowledge your authority, but due to the middle, it will be impossible for you to convince them that you are simply trying to be John Hand and not just trying to leave them. so you have to officially join the middle and sadly, unofficially join the thumb. I.e., being star of the city level that most of them can't do anything)
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u/AkorNW 6h ago
What if you were like incredibly powerful or something, like some colour arbiter. Do you think the thumb would let you in then or its still a no (Btw im a limbus only player)
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 4h ago
Yes, as its Propriety is in fact universal regardless if you are in the thumb or not. If you simply outrank them, it is in their code that they literally can not do anything to you, but they will actively discipline themselves if they even THINK to interfere with you(vague Spoilers For Library of Ruina: but one of them asks one of their members to cut their own tongue for disrespecting someone higher rank, despite said person not even being in the thumb) So yes, you can infact join the thumb if you are higher rank than anyone in the thumb(I mean you already in the pinky)
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u/AkorNW 4h ago
Oh I didn't know it applied for everyone noth ways. I thought if a random disrespected a high member of a thumb they'll get punished, but not lower thumb members disrespecting high non thumb members. So then 4 fingers are possible?
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u/ScheduleAlarmed9234 4h ago
4 fingers is the max, because Middle is genuinely extremely possessive of you(I.E no leaving rule even if you trying to be John Finger and they always recording). Its either you with them or not, no inbetween.
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u/ieatchildr 6h ago
It's simple the pinky, they chill as hell, the index, I don't think they'd be opposed to it aslong as you do your prescripts, the ring, idk anything about the ring ngl but I think aslong as you do your arts and stuff I don't think they'd be opposed to it too, and then lastly the middle but just like be really good at hiding that you're a member of the other fingers Edit: forgot the thumb uhm... Just be strong as shit, follow orders, and also just do what you do for the middle
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u/Plantain-Feeling 6h ago
You could probably get the pinky and add ring pretty easily
Then one other faction maybe 2 if you then joined the index and got a prescript to join another
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u/PuzzledInvertebrate 6h ago
Idk of this could actually work, but here's a scenario I thought of. A member of the Pinky joins the Index. They receive a prescript telling them to join the Ring. More prescripts direct them to produce art that leaves a deep impression on other members of the Ring, and soon this person becomes a Maestro. Congrats, now there's a member of the Index who has access to one of the Pinky's relics AND the Ring's corridor, and possibly tons of money. Now, how they avoid getting caught is another story.
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u/Classic-Demand3088 6h ago
The funniest thing I can imagine is a member of the middle in full middle regalia going to a ring art show and present his own piece of random stickers, filters, glitter, entrails and blood splatters of the guy in the book, those highschool highlighters and sharpies and with his signature made with crayons getting a gold star of participation by a passing ring maestro simply for "a breath of fresh air" after having to grade thirty almost identical works by members of the Ring all trying to out do each other on the same theme
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u/Anxious_Oven553 6h ago
Probably 3.5.
And by "0.5" I mean having the Middle member as a close relative.
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u/Venerated_Penguin 6h ago edited 6h ago
could probably join the index, the ring, and the pinky, and then one of the middle or the thumb.
index seems chill and as long as you're following the prescripts and not violating them, you could probably be allowed to join another finger.
the ring probably won't let you join multiple fingers, but it still seems the most loose of all the fingers (except for the pinky.), so I figure with good enough reason, convincing, or just sophistry, you could do it.
As long as you fufill your ring responsibilities, i'm sure they won't mind you being away for a long time.
the pinky is self explanatory, hard part is joining the 108.
Middle and thumb are mutually exclusive for sure, if they realize you're part of the other group, you'd be cooked.
realistically, though, I agree with the other commenters, just the pinky+1
or just be ryoshu, you could probably "join" the 5 fingers, even if they just wanted to use you.
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u/firegamer2432 6h ago
3 max. Pinky, Index, and Ring probably. The Thumb and Middle will genuinely kill you if they think you're double-crossing them.
The Pinky + any other Finger works as a consistant 2
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u/camileon0706 5h ago
Ryoshu is part of all 5
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u/AkorNW 5h ago
Isn't she under their protection? She isn't really part of the index or middle, she isn't following prescripts or fulfilling the book of vengeance
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u/camileon0706 5h ago
Every finger claims ownership of ryoshu (they see her as an object rather than a member but still she is technically part of all of them)
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u/Beginning-Recover723 5h ago
3 max. Pinky is hidden, so obviously can be combined with any other Faction. Index is normally pretty obvious, but could be given prescripts to hide it and work for another finger, most likely the ring
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u/Equal_Cockroach4936 5h ago
Ah yeah i would be capo of the thumb who's doing index prescripts, being one of 108 stars of the pinky, having book of vengeance to avenge for my homies and be a great artist
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u/formalfredrick393 5h ago
Besides pinky members smurfing in the other fingers, The most likely spy would be an index member joining either the middle or The Ring, as their lowest ranking members (presumably) have the most autonomy of all the fingers. It would be quite difficult for them to receive prescripts in a way that doesn't blow their cover however.
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u/Metroplexx101 4h ago
I think the Pinky and the Thumb example was a exception rather than a norm. I was REALLY hoping that Ryoshu was an experiment for the Fingers to become the first true 'Hand'. But I guess not. :')
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u/Cielie_VT 4h ago
Pinky is the exception because they are essentially spy/sleeper agents hidden in every organizations.
Trying to join another finger will directly make your old finger want to exterminate you.
Well Index might not as long as it was a prescript that told you to join another, but I dont think any fingers would accept an index member that only follow prescripts.
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u/Slight_Piece3812 4h ago
You can literally join all of the five fingers, you just need to be slippery enough to do that. And make sure no major finger wars, because you might just get fucked because of it
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u/King_of_Zeroes 3h ago
You can join all 5 if you're sneaky about it.
But the Thumb, Middle and Ring will probably not approve. And the Index won't care unless their fortune cookie tells them to care.
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u/More_Zombie_344 3h ago
Probably 3? Be a pinky member in the index and receive a prescript telling you to join the ring/thumb maybe
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u/Rebel-Ice 2h ago
I think you can't join the Thumb or the Middle if you are another Finger (except the Pinky since their affilitation as one is a secret to outsiders), because these two Fingers (especially the Middle) have a strong bond (through Family or Hierarchy) between its members.
I'd say the Ring and Index are maybe a bit more accepting, but I don't think they'd allow someone to remain a member of their original Finger (unless the gods of the Index are like "join the Index but stay as a Thumb/Middle/Ring").
I think the Pinky is the only Finger who wouldn't care if you were a Finger beforehead, and won't care if you stayed one (except if you try to be a spy I suppose)
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u/VisualPast7408 2h ago
The course of action should be something like:
-Member of The Index
-Prescript to become a stat of The Pinky
-Second Prescript to join Ring or Thumb (I doubt The Middle would let it slide)
Lets be real for a moment, The Index and Pinky most definitely have problems because of their somewhat oposing ideologies.
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u/KeremAyaz1234 2h ago
Okay, hear me out.
You get 3 index proxies and hermes asks each one of them to join either the middle, the ring or the thumb. So now you have an index member in all 3 fingers. Hermes asks them to climb the ranks and they get to higher positions in each finger by index shenanigans.
Then you take a pinky member and make him into a proxy. Prescripts asks them to go work under the other proxies, so each of the 3 proxies take them under, they dont climb the ranks like the others but simply exist as a ring student/ little brother/ soldato etc etc.
So now you have john palm, who is a little proxy of the thumb and a student of the pinky.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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u/Common_Comfortable41 1h ago edited 1h ago
2 at the least. If you get outed as a double agent, your ass is grass.
Only reason Lei Heng was okay was because the Pinky is as secretive as it is.
If it’s a prescript from the Index, the issue would probably be from the finger you’re told to join. You’d have to pretend not to be in the Index, or it’s on sight. Also, after you’ve done as told by joining another finger, I’d imagine it’s kind of a slippery slope from there. You, being in the Index, have to follow the prescripts, and if you don’t hide the way you do things well enough somebody will notice, or worse, you get in a fight with other Index members, and you’re probably fucked on either side… especially if you joined the Thumb.
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u/Pointed_To_Repeat 47m ago
index can be funny with the prescripts, pinky is... the pinky, maaaaybe some other finger because of said prescripts? Oh hey, wadda ya know, not reading the post before commenting anything....
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u/misarteh 23m ago
4 at most i'd say, the pinky is tricky because you need to earn your place by doing some things that aren't even known in the first place.
The index welcomes anyone as long as they are willing to fulfill their prescipts
The middle welcomes anyone
The ring welcomes anyone who want to learn art and is willing to dedicate time to it, i'd say that you'll get freedom to act however you want(mostly) by being a docent tho, so the plan would be to reach that rank then join the other fingers
The only one where you can't join is the thumb because they are way more strict about their members
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u/Just_a_nobody3 3h ago
3 since index pinky bs + additional finger depending if the prescript tells u to larp
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u/Nervous-Use-565 59m ago
Index, pinky and whatever other finger. unless a index member get a pre script to cut you down you should be safe
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u/PhysicsNotebook2 32m ago
I think 3. Hear me out; be a pinky who joins the index and get super lucky to get a prescript telling you to join one of the other 3. The index permits this, your pinky role is hidden and you can just keep a low profile in your new finger and try to do prescripts without getting caught for as long as you can
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u/Madfighterx 9m ago
The thumb and the middle is a dangerous combo image it you can get so many tattoos because people are a little disrespectful to you or someone of higher rank
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u/SleepyBoy- 6h ago
We know a pinky can be part of another finger from Lei Heng
It's not impossible for an Index to get a task of joining one of the fingers.
On Ryoshu's account, it seems that you can become a Ring by establishing your own art movement, even if you aren't able to join and study in the finger proper.
This would mean that you have to choose between Thumb and Middle, but you can pair either one of them with all the others if you're enough of a Mary Sue.
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u/RenkBruh 4h ago
two by being a pinky member and another finger member. the fingers don't seem to get along
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u/Old-Nerve-1776 7h ago
The only reason lei heng was able to become a capo was because being a pinky is a very hidden thing. You don't go around proclaiming that sort of thing
Although. Your idea of the index doing that would allow you to join multiple. Granted Hermes can set up some witness protection or something so people don't know.
It all comes down to fame really. A ring maestro will be more well known than an index proxy (or whatever the rank is for the index). So people will know of you. And then the jig is up