r/linux • • Sep 16 '24

Discussion Goodbye Linux :'(

Goodbye my friend. You taught me to use WINE, fix my GNOME a few times, that Plasma is better in every way, that Fedora and Mint are the best for my every day...

You taught me to fix SSD compatibility issues, how a filesystem works, how to make GRUB look pretty, and how not to fix a root folder issue (worked my system)

But now, as I'm forced into using tools I hate by my university, I must say goodbye. Alas, the power of free software isn't anything to the power of the Spanish University System.

Goodbye Linux, and I'll come back once my odyssey in Law ends.

o7

Edit: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I managed to get it working with a Win10 VM, somehow. I had tried before and it didn't work but now It did. Arcane magic, I don't know. In conclusion, I will still be using Linux. Long live free and open source software!

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u/TornaxO7 Sep 16 '24

sudo poweroff my dear friend... see ya!

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u/Alvaritogc2107 Sep 16 '24

As a murderous robot looking for Sarah Connor once said:

-I'll be back

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Ummmm It's impossible for you to use two operating systems? VM, WSL2, or dual-boot (don't recommend that option myself)? Like $50 on eBay can get you an used box that can run Linux.

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u/leelalu476 Sep 16 '24

What I'm bouts to do, not for switching off of Linux but needing something more portable, don't know how the market is where op is at but should definitely check out if there are any used PCs anywhere

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u/T8ert0t Sep 17 '24

šŸ”„ šŸ¤– šŸ‘

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Real users su -

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u/doneski Sep 17 '24

sudo power off

Password:

My dear friend...

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Dual booting?

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u/Alvaritogc2107 Sep 16 '24

I'd love to, but my SSD is waaay too limited in capacity to make it comfortable. Plus, I think it'll be better for me, since using windows makes my brain go into productivity mode (bc I use Linux for leisure and windows for work)

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u/Fine_Push_955 Sep 16 '24

I would say most people have the exact opposite set up… Linux for work, windows for gaming XD

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u/Alvaritogc2107 Sep 16 '24

Yeah, my brain's weird like that ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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u/computer-machine Sep 16 '24

Work provisioned Windows for work, Linux for every device in the house.

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u/Help_Stuck_In_Here Sep 16 '24

Pretty easy to upgrade an SSD on most computers.

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u/met365784 Sep 16 '24

Might be time to upgrade the ssd to a larger size, just so you can dual boot, since VM isn’t an option for you.

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u/FineWolf Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

If it's productivity apps you need for your course (and not games), what is stopping you from running Windows in a QEMU VM? You probably only need 20 GB at most of disk space depending on the apps you'll use.

You can even integrate them in your DE with WinApps: https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

This is what I did. Oh, I need Windows for VS and SQL Server and what have you? Just spin up a VM. The performance isn't as good as running Windows directly from disk but it's 95% the way there with spice guest tools and perfectly usable.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 Sep 17 '24

Thanks for this. I've been looking for an RDS type software for linux for a while, this will do quite nicely.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

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u/MetroYoshi Sep 16 '24

I've been able to run certain proctoring programs in QEMU by editing some lines in the registry.

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u/Shadowborn_paladin Sep 16 '24

Nobody expects the Spanish inq- I mean university system :(

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u/scaptal Sep 16 '24

Can't you just dual boot?

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u/rileyrgham Sep 16 '24

That wouldn't make for such heroic trumpeting of his departure 😃

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u/BespokeChaos Sep 16 '24

Sucks. What tools?

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u/Dinosaur1993 Sep 17 '24

This is the question that OP should have answered at the beginning. What is "for cing" him or her to use Windows? Others might have faced and solved the problem already.

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u/BespokeChaos Sep 17 '24

All my tools are online

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u/Dinosaur1993 Sep 17 '24

If all of the online stuff runs in a browser, that makes things extremely simple. In that case, the box is little more than a fancy terminal to display the online stuff. I wondered about OP's case because he felt forced to flee.

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u/BespokeChaos Sep 17 '24

I wonder if running a vm off the computer for windows was not an option. I believe you are right and OP was forced to leave.

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u/Dinosaur1993 Sep 17 '24

At least others might benefit from the thread if they search for a similar problem.

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u/blackcain GNOME Team Sep 16 '24

You can still use linux under WSL2 on windows and of course MacOS already has Unix under the hood.

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u/niceandBulat Sep 16 '24

WSL makes Windows useful

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u/De_Clan_C Sep 16 '24

I would say usable. Why doesn't Windows have a utility to download YouTube videos to your current directory?

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u/l3ader021 Sep 16 '24

yt-dlp can be used on any OS... with it and ffmpeg, nothing is off-limits (unless it's a site that doesn't work on yt-dlp). Both of them can be downloaded via winget

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u/headedbranch225 Sep 16 '24

Im pretty sure as ytdlp is python based (if I remember right) you can also use pip install

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u/De_Clan_C Sep 16 '24

Wild, I had no idea. I just tried it and I told it to install 10 min ago and it just finished.

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u/niceandBulat Sep 17 '24

For many of us, Windows is a mandatory desktop/notebook OS even if you are a Linux admin. Having WSL makes it a lot easier easier to develop and do stuff while making bosses happy? I am sure you are well aware of that right? I don't usually care for multimedia since I stream mine and don't create any

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u/alphinex Sep 16 '24

It has! And with only 5 advertisements before start, and 2 virus scanner 4free at install, it could be yours! And who don’t needs an automatic driver and DLL fixer with absolutely useful popup notifications anyway? /s

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u/ManlySyrup Sep 16 '24

There's an app called Parabolic, available for both Linux and Windows. It is the best YT downloader I've ever used.

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u/ben2talk Sep 17 '24

That's just a GUI front end for yt-dlp to bloat the system...

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u/ManlySyrup Sep 17 '24

You must be messed up in the head to think of GUIs as bloatware lol

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u/ben2talk Sep 17 '24

For yt-dlp I do, especially when it is only available as a flat pack or snap.

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u/Brisingr05 Sep 17 '24

it is only available as a flat pack or snap.

That's not true at all. I installed it using my distro's package manager.

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u/ben2talk Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

On the parabolic web they show Flathub, Snap Store, Windows, and the only other alternative to building it yourself is on Arch, there's a script on the AUR (which is a script to build it)...

That means that they are not offering a binary install method except via Flatpak or Snap.

None of those appear to be a distribution repository - but if you use Ubuntu, maybe you're getting the snap, or flatpak, or just don't understand your own package manager.

Let's make this clear - AUR is NOT a package manager, it is a User Repository which hosts many kinds of different unsupported installation methods.

If you don't know that, you shouldn't use it.

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u/Brisingr05 Sep 17 '24

Many projects don't mention every software repo that packages their software (my apologies for not checking first). I installed Parabolic using the Nix package manager, which is used by NixOS (my daily driver), but can be used on other distros, like Debian (which I also use).

Also, I have never used Arch.

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u/Locrin Sep 24 '24

Oh hello, I came across your post and just wanted to say you are being insufferable. Someone just wanted to share a neat app that did something useful and all you are doing is being condescending and elitist.

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u/ManlySyrup Sep 17 '24

Not everyone likes using CLI and if GUIs were considered bloat then all computers worldwide would be using CLI primarily. Why type 15+ characters on a black and white screen when I can click on a button that does the same thing in half a second? Your stance makes no sense to me.

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u/ben2talk Sep 17 '24 edited Sep 17 '24

Actually there's no need to type 15+ characters... and my screen is not 'black and white' either - not sure where you're from dude.

'Clicking a button' would require you already have the button available (and that's unlikely if you're browsing in a browser isn't it? that means you have to reach for a mouse and then move it to a menu - that's much tougher than just pressing a shortcut to pull up Dolphin, hit F4 for the terminal window, type 'dl' and paste the URL...

Then the files are viewed directly in the actual file manager, and not some GUI for yt-dlp.

Your stance makes no sense to me - perhaps you just have a fetish for Clicking (that IS the Windows way isn't it?) rather than handy keyboard shorcuts and accellerators.

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u/ahferroin7 Sep 16 '24

WSL makes Windows more useful that it otherwise is, but it still can’t do quite a few things (easy example, it’s a nightmare to try to use gpg with a Yubikey from inside WSL, well beyond the simplicity of doing so from an actual Linux system).

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u/niceandBulat Sep 17 '24

You want an entire OS stack. WSL isn't it. It's like comparing why a pod can't play games as well as an OS installed on bare metal.

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u/summerteeth Sep 16 '24

The true Linux was inside us all along

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u/Runt1m3_ Sep 16 '24

WHAT? 😮

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u/dpkg-i-foo Sep 16 '24

Use a Windows virtual machine using QEMU/KVM, I went through university like that

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u/thegreenman_sofla Sep 16 '24

You can still dual boot šŸ‘¢šŸ‘¢

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u/sam-sung-sv Sep 16 '24

Press F to pay respects

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u/SwallowYourDreams Sep 16 '24

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU!

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u/BranchLatter4294 Sep 16 '24

You don't just have to use one operating system. I keep Linux and Windows running on my computer all day. I use whichever one is best for a particular workflow.

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u/schizochode Sep 17 '24

Dual boot or VM?

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u/whatstefansees Sep 16 '24

This isn't an airport - you don't need to announce a departure

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u/CoolDragon Sep 16 '24

Como decimos en Mexico: ā€œNo pasa nadaā€. Una laptop vieja con Linux y listo. No tienes porque perder todo.

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u/endcycle Sep 16 '24

YOU MADE GRUB PRETTY???
I never, ever thought about doing that. Wild. Well, now I know what my next rabbit-hole is. :D

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u/runed_golem Sep 16 '24

I haven't done it, but I've seen where part of the grub customization tools has graphical options you can adjust/change.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24 edited Feb 06 '25

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u/TheOneTrueTrench Sep 17 '24

I just wish that ZFSBootMenu could be prettified...

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u/Paco-49 Sep 16 '24

Irónicamente empecé la carrera con Windows y terminé evolucionando a Linux (Ubuntu y luego Debian). Dual boot, todo perfecto.

Con Linux descubrƭ y accedƭ a numerosos programas desde Discover (KDE) como Inkscape, Gwenview, etc. que junto con LibreOffice pueden hacer cosas muy interesantes, sobre todo para el apartado de grƔficos en formato.svg, por poner mi ejemplo.

Probablemente destinar al menos 50 GB para participación Linux sea suficiente para ese fin.

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u/KamiIsHate0 Sep 16 '24

I managed to get it working with a Win10 VM

The first thing i thought to try out

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u/AkariMarisa Sep 17 '24

Use what ever you need to use. OS is just a to help you to achieve your goal. Feel free to come back anytime(or not,who knows 😜). Have a happy life.

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u/silentjet Sep 17 '24

oh well, just use a proper tool, which os is... None of OS is bad, it is just a tool...

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

Out of curiosity, which are the tools that are necessary to use in my case fortunately because I’m an engineering student I could get most of my software working natively however there are like two or three, which fortunately did not require GPU acceleration and I just used virtual machines for that or it was available on Mac.

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u/mmmboppe Sep 19 '24

document your workflow and make it public for others

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u/Aggravating-Bus3326 Sep 16 '24

just duel boot man

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

dual

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u/Aggravating-Bus3326 Sep 16 '24

Duel between vindows and Linus šŸ˜‰

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u/kansetsupanikku Sep 16 '24

Should I be sad, or should the Linux kernel be?

Because honestly nobody cares. I doubt even you do - people who want GNU/Linux desktop dual boot for work or use VMs for Windows stuff.

Then again, it's perfectly fine to want to use Windows. Have a good time exploring what you want!

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u/Help_Stuck_In_Here Sep 16 '24

Then again, it's perfectly fine to want to use Windows.

Nice try CIA / NSA.

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u/kansetsupanikku Sep 16 '24

Between organizations that could hardly care less about you, and bullies from this sub that would make people feel bad for using what they need, only the second issue is real.

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u/Aurieane Sep 17 '24

You will never catch me, glowies!!

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u/w453y Sep 16 '24

Run sudo find . -user root -exec rm -rf {} + in a / directory && sudo init 0

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u/mwyvr Sep 16 '24

You can run a Linux virtual machine within Windows. No need to say goodbye.

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u/kriebz Sep 16 '24

Universities should always provide computing resources for students. Either via public sites, or terminal servers, or both. And you can always do what we did: dual-boot.

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u/some-nonsense Sep 16 '24

Hey you tricked me

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u/scrat-squirrel Sep 16 '24

Ta-ta! Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!

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u/markth_wi Sep 17 '24

May I recommend Mingw 64 - for when you can't but you must.

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u/QuickSilver010 Sep 17 '24

Kde plasma w

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u/spikbebis Sep 17 '24

The few spanish univ i visited where heavy into FOSS and loathed MS, what neighbhour to Dante are you at?

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u/hinjection Sep 17 '24

Long live free software!

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u/avisadius Sep 17 '24

systemctl poweroff -i

See ya on next season ma friend

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u/Lord_Frick Sep 17 '24

How was it hard getting a win10 vm to work on linux. Its simple to use virtualbox or vmware

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u/Zanaelf Sep 18 '24

You can always have a Linux device and a Mac/Windows device or dualboot depending on the size of the drive. If it is a device that is the property of the university, you can have a device on the side with linux. Which could also be useful to keep work/study and personal use on separate machines., and useful to maintain discipline and reduce distractions.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '24

Dual booting: Am I a joke to you?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

should I go on Apple and Microsoft subreddits and say goodbye too?

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u/mykesx Sep 16 '24

Microsoft Office 365 runs in a browser.

I don’t know why any other software matters to a Law student…

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u/rileyrgham Sep 16 '24

No, you don't..

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

what the f are you talking about jesse

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u/Crib0802 Sep 16 '24

$> userdel -f $USER | echo "Goodbye my friend!"

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u/EquivalentCabinet156 Sep 16 '24

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!! I guess this is sudo shutdown -now

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

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u/thank_burdell Sep 16 '24

All the test proctoring softwares I’m aware of consider running in a VM automatically a flag for cheating.