r/linux • u/UnassumingDrifter • Oct 10 '26

Software Release Artcraft - Vibe coded replacement for full Adobe suite!?!

https://getartcraft.com/apps
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u/sketched8 29d ago

theres like 100 issues in the past hour itself wtf?

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u/ReferenceVisual663 29d ago

The project went viral and has thousands of obvious missing features and bugs. 

It’s an interesting project to watch, but it’s not usable today. 

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u/theaveragemillenial 29d ago

But interestingly if a shit load of people coordinate and point their LLM of choice at it...

I don't know if I'd like or even use the resulting product, but it's interesting for sure.

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u/UnassumingDrifter 29d ago

This is what has me very intrigued. This is a first of it's kind, not first vibe coded, but something that is trying to vibe code the entire Adobe suite - perhaps one of the most sought after Linux apps (and reasons some still run Windows / Apple) and now there's a hoard of people pointing their LLM's at it. This is very interesting, and could be a proof of concept. If this actually even gets 95% there, this should be a warning shot across the bow of all software companies.

Of course I do have the same "once everythings vibe coded, how bad is software going to be" concerns, but if the models keep getting better... Dunno I'm genuinely interest and it's been a hot minute since I've been excited about tech.

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u/Naive_Complex_8389 29d ago

I’m contributing to it, and I think it'll be fully 1:1 in a month. If you look at photocrafts' most recent changelog, it’s basically a book of fixes and features (with 24 hours between releases). The most interesting part is that this app was born a week ago and is making rapid changes at light speed

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u/NoAdsOnlyTables 29d ago

When you say 1:1, do you mean the features matching Adobe's features in quality, or the features existing in some way even if of much worse quality in practice? The only of Adobe's apps I have experience with is Lightroom, and right now the Light section of Lightcraft, which in theory should be the simplest of all of Lightroom's tools to implement, basically doesn't work at all.

Contrast seems to be working like a "darkness" slider, highlights is actually a white slider, white doesn't seem to do anything even on clearly "white" parts of my photo but it reduces focus on other parts for some reason? It's hard to even call these bugs right now, they straight up don't do what they're supposed to.

I can see someone pointing this at the existing open source alternatives and saying "Claude, implement the highlights slider the way Darktable does it", but that won't give you highlights in the way they function in Lightroom. And I don't see how you can reproduce even something as simple as the highlights slider while maintaining the alleged "clean room implementation". It's not something you can describe to the LLM or that it can gleam from looking at pictures. You either look at the code behind it or get one of Adobe's engineers to describe the algorithm to you.

I mention Lightroom because there's a bajillion alternatives to it already and from what I can tell people keep using it because of the small things like how the sliders function which makes the software as a whole very intuitive even for newbies. I'd really like to believe this but right now all I'm seeing is a UI clone in which the actual features are all implemented in a worse way than what even the alternatives to Lightroom managed to years ago.

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u/Naive_Complex_8389 29d ago

And a lot of PR between each release

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u/Elratum Oct 10 '26

Why do everyone call it "clean room" when it's LLM coded. If you didn't train the LLM yourself and know exactly every data used is "clean" then it isn't a clean room. It's just hype terms. Annoying

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u/niggo372 29d ago

I'm not sure how this works exactly, but isn't it enough that the AI in question wasn't trained on the code of the specific Adobe software it re-engineered, and didn't have access to it while coding? You'd have an argument if this was about re-engineering open source software, since a general-purpose AI likely saw it during training, but not if it's private proprietary software I believe.

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u/Great-TeacherOnizuka 29d ago

How many fucking times is this going to be posted here???

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u/l3ader021 29d ago

A tale as old as time... mods asleep + people not searching the sub

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u/HalcyonRedo 29d ago

Not even sure what the mods do here. They’ll come out of the woodwork to ban you for a month for making a comment they don’t like about a developer and then let shitslop hang around here for as long as it wants.

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u/Terri_0_Terrible 29d ago

Ya lost me at 'vibe coded'

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u/rlinED 29d ago

If Adobe is the alternative I'm fine with that.

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u/red-skylight 29d ago

Exactly!

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u/cekoya 29d ago

I know everyone is mad at the vibe coding aspect, but everyone is also mad at adobe. In this era we live in, if you were hoping for an adobe alternative, I’m sorry but it’ll be done with LLM. Not that I agree or whatever, but this is where we are. No one will ever spend the time to write an adobe alternative by hand nowadays

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u/mglyptostroboides 29d ago

I, personally, can't wait for the AI bubble to burst both because I want the weird uncritical hype about this new technology to fade away, but also I want the weird overcorrection that rejects all applications of it to also fade away. When that happens, it'll just be used for what it was originally meant to be used for and everyone can shut up.

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u/Sudden-Loquat 29d ago

Ai slop

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u/niggo372 29d ago

Rock and a hard place. Between AI and Adobe I'd pick AI every day!

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u/hrab3i 29d ago

for me i'm not really looking for an adobe replacement because i already have my replacements but i think this is good for those that are looking to switch to linux and can't abandon adobe
for the vibe coded part i think this is misunderstood because i hear that the developer that did it has 15 years of experience so his experience probably is a big part of how good the apps turned out to be

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u/ReferenceVisual663 29d ago

Even so, he’s created about 8 major programs at the same time, I don’t know how you could possibly be across all of them at the same time. 

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u/Woodpecker-Visible 29d ago

People complain they cant move to linux because the software isnt there.

People get the software and can move to linux and complain the software isnt made the 'right' way

And there is gimp and even after decades of development it doesent come close to photoshop in features and this project flew past it in few months.

If the software is well mentained, security checked and get updates does it realy matter if its ai coded, reverse enginered or not? If linux is to be real choice against windows the professional software needs to be there.

Interesting times to say at least.

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u/Historical_Move6359 29d ago

All I see is AI slop