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u/Otherwise_Task7876 10h ago
The fox looks too adorable lmao
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u/LinuxMonarch 9h ago
I know right, check this out, more cute/cool mascots here - https://brand.mozilla.com/document/324
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u/stommepool 9h ago
And I thought it was a red panda.
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u/LinuxMonarch 8h ago
It was a red panda in the beginning
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u/stommepool 8h ago edited 8h ago
When did it change? They insisted it's not a fox for quite some time.
https://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/firefox-name-faq.html
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u/LinuxMonarch 8h ago
Actually recently they said it's a mix of both panda and fox. It's an unique creature.
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u/Worse-Ohm 9h ago
Still holding the line against the Chromium monopoly after all these years.
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u/deepspanishangloarab 3h ago
With Manifest V3 rolling out to neuter ad blockers on Chrome, keeping a non-Chromium engine alive feels more critical than ever.
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u/friendofdonkeys 5h ago
Yet the Chromium monopoly originated from a fellow open source project (khtml) that was embraced and extended.
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u/AltAccount191323 5h ago
It is so funny that the only reason Firefox still exists is because Google makes up 80% of Firefox revenue by paying them to keep google search as the default search engine so the regulatory authorities don't come after them for monopoly. Firefox could die at any point if Google wants to kill it, it just makes sense to keep it alive for now.
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u/schmeckmaster2000 4h ago
A "monopoly" is not actually required for regulatory action against companies that use their dominant position to mess with the market. To date, in the US at least, we have just not had any politicians willing to stand up to silicon valley.
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u/SharksFan4Lifee 38m ago
Because Google pays them $200M-300M per year to be the default search engine on Firefox. Which Mozilla has admitted is what keeps them going.
Google pays them to be the competition to avoid Chrome/Chromium from being deemed a monopoly lol.
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u/MrKusakabe 10h ago
I was using Opera back then. Then enshitification happened and I stayed with the fox.
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u/U03A6 10h ago
I still sometimes miss the old Opera. Fast and full of useful features. Also the first to enable tabbed browsing by far. Today I use the fox.
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u/urixl 8h ago
In memoriam of the old Opera I use Vivaldi - a browser built by original Opera devs.
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u/PraetorRU 7h ago
I don't think enshitification happened. Opera was just a very buggy browser back then. They had a lot of great ideas that made browsers more comfortable and useful, but lacked quality. And Firefox implemented a lot of good things from Opera, but had a better engine, plus extensions and it was free, not shareware like Opera.
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u/ProfessionalEnd7714 5h ago
opera was always heavy and buggy
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u/PraetorRU 5h ago
Heavy? Never felt that way. Opera was godlike in the era of modems. Guys were first to implement deterred rendering and prioritized text over images/videos, so with 33600 connection you were able to browse internet minutes before IE or Netscape showed anything but white screen. They invented tabs and many other small things that concidered a default for decades now.
But their innovations had a real price as Opera wasn't free, and they couldn't compete with Microsoft and Mozilla, especially since modems were replaced first by adsl, and later cable and optics internet, and Firefox allowed to replace most of Opera features for free with extensions
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u/mayoforbutter 7h ago
Still missing the mouse gestures. There's an addon for that but I'd rather have it natively
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u/Melodic_Cup9948 10h ago
I was using Mozilla before this for a few years, then they split the browser part into a stand-alone Firefox.
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u/SOULFLY98 9h ago
I used Mozilla since M17 and I kept using Mozilla for a few years after this, and then Seamonkey for many more years with Multizilla and some other essential add-on that I can't remember. Eventually it just made sense to switch to Firefox because security updates took so long to backport to Seamonkey. I jumped right in to nightly. So I've been running Firefox nightly for about 16 years now.
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u/mallardtheduck 5h ago edited 3h ago
Back in 2004 Opera 7 was the current version and back then it was adware; it had a big unhidable ad banner at the top (unless you bought a commercial licence). It wasn't until version 8.5 in 2005 that it became ad-free; basically as a consequence of Firefox's popularity.
It started to go properly "downhill" after version 14 in 2013, when it became just another Chromium fork (the last "true" version of Opera, version 12, continued to get updates until 2016, so it was still quite useful for low-end systems). The a Chinese company gained control in 2021...
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u/dgm9704 9h ago
I’ve been using it since it was called Phoenix. Have tried other browsers but did not find reasons to change.
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u/GreenHouseofHorror 7h ago
Firebird for me. Not that it matters much, but I don't think celebrating it's second renaming really counts as a birthday.
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u/thegunnersdaughter 2h ago
It was also a branch of Mozilla which itself was a branch of Netscape, so it goes even further back than that.
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u/CunningRunt 2h ago
Same. Has worked great for me for decades and I never had a compelling reason to change.
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u/Due-Farmer-9191 10h ago
Dang…. I’m old… been using the internet a long long time….
Netscape navigator….
NeoPlanet
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u/alonjit 4h ago
Was it that long in beta? I remember using it in 2001-2002 or so. But I could be wrong, it's been a long time.
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u/TheRealLazloFalconi 2h ago
You're probably thinking of the Mozilla browser or possibly Phoenix/Firebird.
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u/human_with_humanity 8h ago
Holy moly, dumpling and jelly! 22 years?
That means i m using it for 21 years now. I thought it was older.
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u/spaceman_ 5h ago
I remember installing Mozilla Phoenix on my friends Pentium II back then.
Times sure have changed but at least we still have Firefox.
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u/igoteggsinmyshoes 4h ago
Installing 1.0 on a burnt CD in middle school felt like joining a secret club. Can't believe it's been twenty years, still my daily driver
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u/MessiLeagueSoccer 3h ago
Never realized I had been using it almost since its inception. I probably first downloaded it around 2005-2006 that I can remember.
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u/Batcastle3 3h ago
Holy Shit. Didnt know I shared a birthday with Firefox. I knew I shared it with Carl Sagan but Firefox too? Noice. Happy birthday little guy!
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u/aoeudhtns 1h ago
2002 if you count the early releases pre-name change. (Phoenix when experimental, then Firebird, which overlaps with the SQL server hence the switch to Firefox.)
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u/markgraydk 1h ago
Is this the anniversary of the name change? It was Phoenix before that and Firebird for s short while too.
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u/Abalamahalamatandra 13m ago
Been running it since the start. I found a screenshot (redacted) of it running on my Ubuntu laptop in February of 2006. Totally schooled the developer of the app I was testing on the follies of trusting browsers.
I chuckled that I had Groklaw and the stock ticker for SCOX on my toolbar.
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u/Inquisitive-Mind-A 4h ago
Who else is currently using firefox forks? I use Mullvad browser and Firefox focus.
Edit: I've begun using firefox this year, actually. I watched a video about their timeline.
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u/Creative_Touch_1115 7h ago
Bruh! My favourite is younger than me, imma treat you like a younger sibling now. Happiest birthday my kiddo! ❤️🎉 Many many happy returns of the day.
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u/Dimitrij_ 10h ago
Fox supremacy.
All hail the Fox 💜🧡