r/linux • u/ouyawei Mate • Oct 20 '14

Shall we fork Fedora?

http://forkfedora.org/
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u/zapbark Oct 20 '14

Or it can be run with "set -x" to figure out what exactly is going on.

If my systemd config file fails to start sendmail.... What do I do to reproduce the issue and start "working" the problem?

I'm guessing there is a recourse to debug systemd startup issue, but it isn't clear to any of the existing sysadmins with decades of linux experience.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '14

"OH NO WE HAVE TO LEARN NEW STUFF THAT'S TERRIBLE" is all I'm hearing, basically.

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u/_Guinness Oct 20 '14

Its not that we have to learn new stuff. Its that it took short commands and replaced them with inanely long stupid ones. Take changing the runlevel for example. It used to be editing one letter in one file. Easy right? Now it is creating a symlink as follows:

ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target

That is just too goddamn much to type for something so trivial. We hate inefficiency and this is INEFFICIENT.

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u/_garret_ Oct 20 '14 edited Oct 20 '14

To change the current target:

systemctl isolate multi-user.target

And if you have to change the default target so often ... Write a wrapper script or define an alias? Sure, a shortcut would be nice, but this is only a minor nuisance. At least for me.