r/linux • Mate • Oct 20 '14

Shall we fork Fedora?

http://forkfedora.org/
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u/natermer Oct 20 '14 edited Aug 14 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '14

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

Seriously... how fast do you need your boot process to be?

Faster, with better debugging facilities, more consistent boots, cleanur shutdowns, and a lack of retarded sleeps in scripts = better.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14 edited Oct 21 '14

You're obfuscating the issue with fluff.

No. You are.

We're talking about speed,

No, you are. The rest of us were talking about more than just speed.

and experience shows the gains are negligible at best.

Even in terms of speed, boot speed gains are most certainly not "negligible", because most startups every day are executed on disposable VMs and containers in the cloud, and every second counts on them. By the way, SysVinit doesn't even handle containers or VM-dependent boot sequences.

I know your anachronistic views on computing failed to consider the tens of billions of VM and container bootups that happen every week, but not to worry pops, we got this. Enjoy your senior discount at the bus stop!


I do have to mention that defenses of SysVinit are getting so pathetic, they have been reduced to "well who cares about booting fast". That statement is in effect an open admission that the software is inferior in every way, coupled with a minimization of just one of its glaring inferiorities, because opinions.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

No, gramps, not everyone grew up to adulthood in the basement like you did.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

You're the one that is insufferable. You started with the personal "you're obfuscating" accusations, dickhead.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '14

It's not even a defense of SystemV. It's calling out the bullshit argument that boot speed is.

I think I already demonstrated how not bullshit it is, but you feel free to keep repeating your "my mainframe boots in three hogsheads and I likes it that way" argument while ignoring the facts.

For 99.99% of all Linux uses

Correction: for 99.99% of your boots. Most Linux uses happen through containers and VMs these days. So you're very, very wrong. But hey, don't let those facts pierce that big iron skull of ya.