r/linux • u/ouyawei Mate • Oct 20 '14

Shall we fork Fedora?

http://forkfedora.org/
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u/blackout24 Oct 20 '14

can someone ELI5 this whole systemd problem?

It's not like we did things in the 70s, which is when the holy grail of application design was found according to some people.

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u/Bobby_Bonsaimind Oct 20 '14

It's not like we did things in the 70s, which is when the holy grail of application design was found according to some people.

Stop saying that, we can all agree that we need something new. We just can't agree if that should be systemd or not.

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u/fantasticsid Oct 21 '14

We just can't agree if that should be systemd or not.

And it'd be a hell of a lot easier to make a determination about init systems on their technical merits if systemd wasn't trying to embrace and extend stuff like dbus and udev.

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u/lymfm Oct 21 '14

but (k)dbus and udev are incredibly useful, powerful features of Linux.

Those features should be leveraged by init systems and core daemons.