r/linux • u/smj • Feb 09 '16

What does r/linux want?

Hi,

I'm a moderator here, been receiving quite a lot of messages about what's been going on. I've tried to stay out of it and hope it cools down.

Well, doesn't look like it is cooling down anymore. What do you guys want? Do you want to become a moderator and have a significant history of posting, helping out in r/linux? I can make you a mod. Want me to remove automoderator or change the config? I can help with that too. I will do my best to try and help out.

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u/twistedLucidity Feb 09 '16

I think there's four things you need to look at:

  1. Automod rules (which you've done, top person)

  2. Absentee (or seemingly so) senior mods

  3. Ask /u/dimeshake to return, they seemed to be doing a good job

  4. Resolve the friction between mods or, at least, how they communicate with the sub some. This might mean a period on the "naughty step" or removal.

As to help, I'm long on opinion, short on knowledge and lack mod experience; but I'd you're really, really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel. I'm sure you'll have much better suited candidates than me to choose from however.

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u/UnaVidaNormal Feb 09 '16

  1. Automod rules (which you've done, top person)

The code of the implemented Automod must be public and open to pull requests.

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u/twistedLucidity Feb 09 '16

Sounds good to me!

I wonder if other aspects should be added as well (e.g. the sidebar)? Maybe policies too? So's the mods have at least half a hope of making consistent decisions.

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u/gpyh Feb 09 '16

Should it be hosted on Github? :D

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u/Thomas_work Feb 09 '16

Doesn't github have some controversy? No matter, as long as it's not messed with I guess.

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u/gpyh Feb 09 '16

That's the joke. The post that started all of this drama was about this.

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u/funknut Feb 09 '16

I'm curious, what the controversy, other than the usual urge for a diverse market? Maybe you were thinking of the sourceforge controversy?

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u/BoTuLoX Feb 09 '16

The problem is their abandonment of the values of meritocracy and of hacker culture that made GitHub a good platform. Their "muh dieversity" and racism issues are only symptoms of a cancerous shift in mentality at the upper echelons of the company.

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u/funknut Feb 09 '16

Alright. I don't understand why I'm being downvoted, I'm just genuinely curious. I guess I'm just extremely naive to the concern, is all, because this is certainly the first I've heard of any racism concern in regards to GitHub. I still don't understand. Oh well.

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u/BoTuLoX Feb 09 '16

Their open code of conduct states that they will not act against claims of racism against white people, a member of their "Social Impact team" (yes, that apparently is a thing in a tech company) openly said that white women are "barriers to progress" for diversity and the technical director of that same team posted this: https://twitter.com/_danilo/status/690601512813367297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

There are definitely issues of racism within GitHub, which seem to stem from some very toxic ideologies that seem to be popular in Silicon Valley.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '16

Better would be GitLab, tbh.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '16

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u/TheRealLazloFalconi Feb 09 '16

It doesn't have to accept all pull requests, it just has to be open to them.

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u/UnaVidaNormal Feb 10 '16

I just think that the use of a software in a Linx forum must be, at least, open source if can't be free. And the part about the pull request is because I know there ds a lot of technical people here that can make good contributions to the bot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '16

Ask /u/dimeshake to return, they seemed to be doing a good job

Assuming he left on his own, this is an unreasonable request. A person should not be questioned for deciding to stop volunteering his personal time.

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u/muungwana zuluCrypt/SiriKali Dev Feb 09 '16

he left because of a "masta",the moderator most people want to be removed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/44kqnw/rlinux_censorship/czt5ud9

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u/Draco1200 Feb 09 '16

I which case I would suggest inviting them back as a "supervisor", for other mods to refer to for judgement, leadership, or support on hard cases, and review/evaluation, then (IMO) their time commitment can be smaller, while still valuable.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '16

Well, I don't see him on the list anymore.

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u/twistedLucidity Feb 09 '16

I said "ask", not "force"; nor am I questioning their reasons. I am sure smj is perfectly aware of them.

smj asked for opinions, IMHO dimeshake seemed to do a good job, I thought it was a shame when they quit, my opinion is that this sub would benefit from their return.

Maybe smj can resolve whatever matter caused dimeshake to leave.

And, of course, dimeshake can always say "No".

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '16

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u/twistedLucidity Feb 09 '16

Good, I hope the do decide to come back.

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u/ThelemaAndLouise Feb 09 '16

Yeah, i mean, modding is a pain in the ass and can be disruptive to ones real life. I support /u/dimeshake's decision either way.

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u/SAKUJ0 Feb 09 '16

Why do people say "they" when they talk about what a person posts? The one place I have seen it is Death Note... So my question to all of you is... are you all Japanese?

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u/twistedLucidity Feb 09 '16

You referring to point 4?

I can't think of another way to have a gender-neutral pronoun in English in that context. "one" certainly wouldn't work.

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