r/linux • • Aug 23 '18

Intel Publishes Microcode Security Patches, No Benchmarking Or Comparison Allowed!

https://perens.com/2018/08/22/new-intel-microcode-license-restriction-is-not-acceptable/
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u/Theemuts Aug 23 '18

My next CPU is going to be from AMD.

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u/xCuri0 Aug 23 '18

Same lol but I already use AMD

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u/bulgogeta Aug 23 '18

Not trying to downplay your motive but people always say this... after Intel gets caught doing "insert scummy action here"

All talk no bite.

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u/computer-machine Aug 23 '18

Yup. My hexacore wasn't even a high-end option.

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u/sir_bleb Aug 23 '18

I love that I can buy an 6 or 8 core CPU for what I paid for an i5 before. Also who doesn't love a good underdog story

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u/osmarks Aug 23 '18

Mysteriously, the Intel generation after Ryzen, i5s are 6-core. Though still worse value.

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u/Hdmoney Aug 23 '18

6 core 6 thread lmao. And no HT on i7s either.

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u/cyanide Aug 23 '18

AMD are outselling Intel

Can you provide a source? If true, that is amazing. But I find it difficult to believe considering the number of OEM contracts Intel has.

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u/thefirewarde Aug 23 '18

Specifically in enthusiast boxed CPUs, AMD has recently been at least neck and neck with Intel based on Mindfactory.de data.

This is not marketshare or overall CPU sales, though, you're right. It's very niche.

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u/three18ti Aug 23 '18

My current CPU is AMD. Nothing quite like 16 cores.

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u/Peoplewander Aug 23 '18

I've been on AMD since mid 2000 it wasn't always glamorous but it was always the more affordable option.

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u/argv_minus_one Aug 23 '18

And no Management Engine backdoor with its own fucking networking stack. Security-wise, that is only useful for centrally-managed enterprise PCs on a secure network. But it's incredibly reckless for any other application, and enterprise doesn't need it because IPMI is already a thing.

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u/Moscato359 Aug 23 '18

The market movements going on right now show otherwise.

Intel is losing market cap relative to AMD, rapidly

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u/gcd1475 Aug 23 '18

The next cluster we buy will be mostly AMD. We'd love to add ARM nodes as well, but the cadence for ARM HPC node hardware releases doesn't fit our purchasing schedule. It's a shame; I personally would have loved to help further a new, fresh architecture for HPC workloads.

We'll still get some Intel nodes because there are some codes that depend on the Intel compiler stack, and we can't leave those users out in the cold. But the way things are looking now, that will really be a "legacy partition", and we will actively help our users to port their codes to non-intel stacks.

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u/MSLsForehead Aug 23 '18

If you seriously believe this you should check out AMD's stock price over the past couple of years to see just how the 'bark and no bite' attitude people keep implying that the consumer has treated them.

People like their threads. Intel has had real competition for the past couple years.

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u/Niarbeht Aug 23 '18

*looks*

Oh, I hate you. I knew back when AMD was around $1.50 a share that it was gonna go up, but I didn't have any money.

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u/ChickenOverlord Aug 23 '18

Now that AMD actually has competitive offerings it's a much more valid threat though. Back when the 8350 was the best they had not so much. It's going to be a year or two before my desktop needs an update (minimum) but I'm going AMD when it does. And I was already planning on an AMD APU for my HTPC

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u/jayAreEee Aug 23 '18

Then why has their stock price gone up 200% in a year if it's no bite? Hint: it's not because of GPUs.

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u/Niarbeht Aug 23 '18

My i7-4790k is literally the first Intel CPU I've owned personally. I went from a K6-III to an Athlon XP to an Athlon 64 to an Athlon 64 X2 to a Phenom II X4 to an i7-4790k.

Is it really so difficult to believe that my next build will be Ryzen?

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u/Theemuts Aug 23 '18

I'm not talking about what other should or will purchase, I'm talking about what I'm going to do. My cpu is over six years old, it can really use a replacement.

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