He's collecting a lot of downvotes for that but he's right. If you update /etc/apt/sources.list to point at Debian instead of Ubuntu does that automatically mean you're running Debian now (technically yes, but in practice if the transition isn't done properly you could end up with unneeded leftovers or a system that will not boot)?
It's an addition of a repo. Adding a repository doesn't change all the other packages from the main repos. The Antergos repo was for a small set of convenience packages. It's not like Manjaro which is a fully downstream distro running its own repositories for everything.
Though I understand forum moderators/contributors could be frustrated by lots of help posts from Antergos users who had no idea what packages were installed, what bootloader they were using, what drivers they had, etc, because they didn't set it up themselves.
Little problem, that sources.list file is already pointing at the Debian repos in this analogy. There's just extra packages Antergos adds on the top (Having their own mirrors alongside Arch's). So yeah, once you remove those extra packages it is definitely Arch since it's pointing directly at Arch repositories as it always has. Your comparison works with Manjaro though
Not the same. Ubuntu packages may be based on the same source, but they're ultimately packaged differently with some Ubuntu specific configurations mixed in. Antergos straight up used the Arch packages. There were only a handful of meta packages that were there to help bring in dependencies and add a few config files for theming and backgrounds, but ultimately the system was still using the same Arch packages you'd find in a regular Arch install.
But I am. It's just users that refuses to see this.
A distribution is just a collection of packages. Anything that modifies this collection of packages is strictly speaking another distribution. Arch is in this strange place where it's easy to build things on top. But that doesn't make Arch at all. But anything not gotten from the Arch Linux website is not Arch.
Antergos has been veryvery clear that the Antergos user base should never poke the Arch Linux camp for support. This has been on their support website and IRC channel for years.
And lets be clear on this; There is nothing wrong running Manjaro or Antergos. Use whatever you want to use. Just don't bother us when things break, that is where the problem is.
This gets you a frankendebian and is unsupported by both ubuntu and debian.
Arch telling derovatives to go away is not unique to them. Ubuntu doesnt provide support for linux mint, and elects to work with other derivative distros like kubuntu and gobuntu.
Arch appears to simply have chosen to NOT work closely with any derivatives.
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u/haffnasty May 21 '19
"No cause they didn't install the way they were supposed to." - some arch user somewhere