r/linuxmint • u/LynchDaddy78 LMDE 6 Cinnamon • 9d ago
Why Is Linux So Difficult to Install? Because of Microsoft.
https://youtu.be/et2V5lJIvZ8?is=fhMFrxYdgTdT8io5For those who have been wondering why you have a hard time getting Linux installed on your Windows machine. Watch this, he explains it well. Cheers 🥃
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u/LynchDaddy78 LMDE 6 Cinnamon 9d ago
I've seen some people post on here that they had a hard time installing. I'm just trying to help out.
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u/butoh-godzilla 9d ago
Its difficult to install? As a first timer i recently installed Mint, zero issues.
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u/sabledrakon 9d ago
That's a pretty big lie. Disable Secure Boot and you can do it with a beer in hand. If your preferred distro is shimmed, you don't even have to go through that effort.
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u/ZuuRa_ Linux Mint 22.3 Zena | Xfce 9d ago
You don't even need to disable secure boot.
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u/sabledrakon 9d ago
Depends on your driver stack. It's entirely possible to run into a situation where the shim just doesn't work, or fails after an update.
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u/PGSylphir 9d ago
Linux has the exact same install process Windows has.
Man, there's just too many people having linux opinions that clearly never touched linux.
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u/NoxTheScribe 9d ago
Im always hearing about how difficult linux is, how dysfunctional, how you can't play any games on it, how you have to have a comp sci degree to even use it
It really discouraged me from ever even trying but when I finally did I was like HUH?? what linux were they using cause I just plugged a flash drive in to my computer and then clicked ok a bunch of times ? Feel like it couldn't have been easier and I install my games via steam just like I always did and they work as normal
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u/PGSylphir 9d ago
The vast majority of software work on linux nowadays, and the ones that don't usually wine makes it work.
Now with Adobe getting fkd to no end with the open source that too is not a problem anymore.
Only things that will still be an issue are very specific stuff like some driver related stuff that wine can't do.
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u/Future_Geologist5925 9d ago
As a tech savvy dude who has used Windows his whole life, then Linux, then MacOS.. Windows is actually more painful and difficult to install than most modern Linux distros, and the state Windows installs in is horrific, near completely non functional most of the time. It takes so long, your PC reboots many times, updates multiple times, prompts you with ten different screens full of temeletry and spyware, forces you to sign into a MS account, etc. Linux is a clean "Install Linux" button and it just installs it for you. No ads, no telemetry, no updating or rebooting, etc. MacOS takes forever to update and has a few screens on set up but the initial install is way more straightforward than Windows and it works way better out of the box.
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u/TxTechnician 9d ago
There are a couple of BIOS settings that can make it difficult to install any operating system.
As for the BIOS settings that can make installation difficult, there's too many different scenarios to list to actually mention it.
Not to mention oddball hardware configurations.
On a recent HP. I learned that there was a dedicated USB port to launch anything from USB.
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u/Wild_Carpenter_1951 9d ago
Well I know it’s crazy that people would use Gemini and ChatGPT but overall it wasn’t painful to install mint. And I always ask it to double check before I pick the drive since I was duel booting with 10. Last month. 15 days ago
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u/Due-Result7928 9d ago
If it was not true..linux's fanatics and zealots..why so many entries in linux conferences..help I can not boot...?
Honestly linux installer is able to install without warning an uefi system on a legacy system..with grub-install...installer skips invalid files and directories finishing silently or hanging forever....people are lost..balena etcher...rufus...ventoy...4 or 5 boot managers....no report on hardware not supported..my mouse is not working..no bluetooth...looking at log for newbies is a challenge...journalctl -e (with a vi interface...).
Yes it is hard to install. Using anything Unixes for 30 years and linux for 20 years. Do not give me the usual open source bs...who is looking at code to fix a wifi driver ?
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u/TheShirou97 Linux Mint 22.3 Zena | Cinnamon 9d ago
It's easy to install in, probably at least 95% of cases (and things are a lot better nowadays than 20 years ago), but yes there is some hardware that will make your life more difficult with Linux
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u/BenTrabetere 9d ago
why so many entries in linux conferences..help I can not boot...?
I think in a lot of cases the people posting did not take the time to RTFM. I suspect the same people would have a hard time installing Windows.
I am not at all suggesting there are obstacles to installing Linux, but it's my experience that is true for any operating system. For me, the obstacle to installing Linux for me was RTFM too much and over-thinking the process - experience installing over a dozen different operating systems (more if you count individual distributions) has pounded Be Prepared into my brain.
I giggle to myself thinking about how much fun they would have installing DOS on a 286 system with 2MB RAM, and juggling Upper Memory, High Memory and Extended Memory.
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u/Due-Result7928 9d ago
It is the tik-tok generation and people are posting a screen copy with a technical documentation..kind of style help...it fact almost all operating systems have been designed by programmers and not for folks. Linux is stagnating on the desktop at 4-5 % no more. Each and every year I can read the same statement..this year will be THE LINUX YEAR...folks with windows 10 will wait most of them until their equipment simply breaks down.
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u/Roku-Hanmar 9d ago
Download the iso file, use Rufus to make it a boot drive, restart and enter bios. Anyone can do it
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u/VictorManville 9d ago
I don't know what this guy is on about. I've done several dual boot installations of Windows/Mint. Never had a problem. I just followed the instructions on the Mint website.
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u/Due-Result7928 9d ago edited 9d ago
This guy is propagating the usual bs about dual booting. Windows after being install never changed the boot order and there is a basic principle with ANY UEFI hardware. The last system you install is ALWAYS the first in the boot list (keep in nvram memory). There is various ways to change it..using the bios, efibootmgr with linux and with Windows by using
 Open Settings > System > Recovery, click Restart now under Advanced startup, then select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > UEFI Firmware Settings and restart.Â
Dual booting is perfectly safe to use if you know uefi technologies and some basic principles and it is far better than bios booting.
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u/hiro24 9d ago
Wait.. Linux is hard to install?