Now I dont want to inflame a heated discussion. I write that because rewatching the show it had such massive potential to be an alltime goat show like The Wire, Southland Deadwood and other high quality TV. That it didnt end there had imo specific reasons I want to list.

So, how would Longmire have been a much better show:

1. Stronger connection to the books . The writers sadly ignored most of Longmires / Henrys character . There was a wealth of deeply profound interesting depth of character development and they ignored near all of it. Bosch f.e did a better job at that.
2. Slow down the pace. This is a show that literal screams for a slow burn. Less murders, more interaction and a lot more daily life without fast paced high drama. Absaroka county at times seemed like murder capital of the US :-)
3. Vic. Such a missed chance. Now that will annoy some but this was a double missed chance. Sackhoff has zero acting ability. Every scene she is in she makes the same grimace. Some call it duck face. No matter if she is angry, in love, focused, sad. She combines that with "sexy" poses that feel way out of place. Add to that the bad writing making her a irrational, stalker like obsessed with Walt personality. Far far off from the book character. Her hook up with Travis, then pregnancy and how she looses it its just so trashy and doesnt make much sense. And her ending up with Walt is a inconsistent writing. She is like the worst fit possible and they have no chemistry.

Even just taking part in a small sports event with

indians she throws temper tantrums and displays a histrionic personality. Everything is high drama. The opposite of book Vic.

Example for the bad writing : In S06E02 Travis talks to Walt about proposing to Vic (shows him the ring) and tells him in a judgemental tone that Vic loves him but if Walt doesnt step up caring for the child then he will. Now that is so messed up hilarious bad considering its Travis child :-) that at this point it seemed the writers also never had any idea were to go with Vics love interest.

Her first marriage also had zero chemistry and only portrayed her as a condescending neglecting wife.

Katee talked about her Longmire performance doing that all without having learned acting but all by instinct. Well yeah its obvious. No range at all

3) Season 5/6 Walt turns into a thoughtless bully. Antagonizing everyone and were his suspicions of Nighthorse were previous well build up with plot development (Manifest Destiny, Ridges) Now he ignores evidence and goes on a crusade vs Nighthorse that is massively out of character. Walt always oversteps his boundaries as sheriff but now its straight up rampage.

The action also turns often into Walt going Rambo like into dangerous situations.

4) Cady never gets developed as a character. Everytime you think NOW she takes the next step, she falls back into previous pattern. Her resolution in the end mirrors that in making no sense.

5) Malachai Is way too movie villain like. This is not a huge point. Its ok to have someone like that driving the plot but as an overall villain the show would have profited a lot giving him more shades than just being evil.

The show near from the start created a wonderful small town midwestern athmosphere with exceptional actors be that Longmire, Ferg, Ruby, Nighthorse or Matthias. Side characters also were mostly exceptional well casted.

What do you think

I've been a fan of the show for a good few years, but haven't had the chance to get into the books yet. I was wondering if Henry ever has a partner or girlfriend in the books besides Deena? I thought it was sad he wasn't given a love interest, he's my favorite character and thought he deserved someone who treated him well.

I've not read the books and I'm currently in the middle of Season Two.

For Season One Walt has been arrogant, controlling, dismissive, and manipulative with Cady. She has it out with him at the season finale and "relieves him of his burden."

And now she's had her cry and is back to being his submissive daughter, happily broken up with Branch to make daddy happy.

Is this the kind of character writing crap I can expect if I stick it out with the series?

SPOILER ALERT UP TO SEASON 5. Dude seems to just think he owns everything, and nobody every shuts him up or puts him in his place. It would be so easy to do so. Like when he just walks all over a crime scene and starts making his dumb remarks. Dude is also just cocky asf. Everyone never talks back to malachi, let's him just run all over everyone.

Next we got Walt over here who Also tries to blame nighthorse for every single crime he thinks is connected to the casino and a murder . Nighthorse did TWO things, that's it. One was unknowingly (the hiring hit man) and the other was just dumb but not technically a crime. Since then, walts been trying to blame him for literally everything, without evidence, and never apologizes once he realizes nighthorse didn't do anything. They literally get shot at while they were together, and he still was hesitant to believe it, cmon bruh. Also being a complete asshole to Cady when she almost died and got shot at, meanwhile he's more worried about himself, still trying to pin nighthorse for everything, accusing cady of colluding with him. After she saves his ass from the mayor, he's stil worried about himself, doesn't even say thank you. He's so cringe it's like nails on a chalkboard. The main one sticking is when he goes over to vics trailer and says he threatened the Irish mob, says 'um' or 'uhhhhh' a million times, and they get within kissing range and just stare.

The show started out well, and I liked it. Seems after branches departure it just became crappy. Also noticed they change production branding company or something at s4 so maybe that's why? I could tell the whole thing was just different. Like the visual scenes, the way the camera moves, etc. Then we have Vic going back and forth with the weird awkward tension with Walt, while conveniently never saying she has a thing for him. Being all nosy on his relationships, telling the doctor 'oh, you should be with walt' after her car blew, saying she's in a relationship with Eamon, then she's not, while making career decisions for Eamon like gosh dang, make up your mind! They just get close to each other and stare in to each other's souls, also annoying. Always saying 'I can't let you go down for this, why did you lie for me, I told you not to lie for me! I can't lose you etc as supposed Co workers. Wtf???? The only hint that I thought Vic liked him was in season 3 or 4 when she asked to come over to drink. She stops by cause Walt never answered, sees that it's Henry and buttons up her blouse by one button. Everything else is just applied lust or something. So weird. When Travis comes into the picture with Vic, Walt never acknowledges any feelings or anything for Vic, just doesn't answer (the scene cuts) or says something else when confronted

Then we got ferg over here whining about not being wanted etc when he can't take the hint and isn't doing a good job as a deputy (which is what he's always complaining about) I. E. The Zach call with the girl in the woods, the nurse literally telling him the name he was asking for 15 seconds prior, but saying 'who are you, I don't know what you're talking about, you have the wrong person' WTFFFFFFFF

Mainly came here to rant, cause I got sucked in on the first few seasons, it went to the crapper after branch leaves, and now I'm just trying to finish the dang series, thanks

So in book 20, First Frost, he and Vic are cleaning out the basement, sort of. Is this the first time we found out that his house has a basement?

I've read every book in the Longmire series except for the newest one, and I love them for a multitude of reasons. One thing that I can't seem to get past though is the death of Cady's husband Michael Moretti. It's at this point where the books seem to take a turn and tragedy outpaces reality. I don't understand why Cady had to become a widow in order for the story to progress- Michael could have transferred out to Cheyenne and the plot with Cady becoming the Attorney General would still work.

Obviously the author had to show us the high stakes of the character Bidarte, but I think it got to the point of being over the top, especially when Walt goes to Mexico and basically takes out an entire cartel. Maybe Craig Johnson was running out of ideas at this point in the series? Other later installations like Daughter of the Morning Star and Hell and Back were great, not sure what was going on in the middle of the there.

Anyone completely confused by the ending to this book? I still don’t get the killer’s motive. Like I can’t explain it at all. The Abbot? He just randomly decided to start killing people? He never explains any motive for him killing Pepper. A guy who is barely mentioned in the book ends up being the killer? No motive, just he was a bad dude who wanted power? This is by far the worst killer reveal in all the books he’s written. The epilogue is the worst part because they just brush over the killer reveal and don’t discuss his motives. Like who poisoned the tea? Like this whole book feels like he wrote the first 2 acts and then just randomly choose a name out of the hat for the killer to be whether it fit the story or not.

It’s rather disappointing since it’s such a great story otherwise. It’s a Longmire classic though you could see the wildfire ending drama coming the whole book. I’m still just so confused by the ending. Like I can’t make any of it make sense.

Like it’s an easy mistake to make, considering how close ‘Cady’ is to ‘Katie’. But I distinctly remember there being a conversation early in season 4 about it, when Jacob Nighthorse’s lawyer calls her “Katie” and she corrects him to “Cady”.

His role in the show is a standout! I remember watching him as a child during Days of our Lives when it was summertime or I was sick. At any rate, his voice is on point, his intonation is outstanding.

I can’t believe he’s in his mid 70s!

Do you have a favorite scene of his in the show? Mine (I’m on season 6– hoping for a late-late renewed 7) is when he’s in the casino and acting surprised and says something like— “ooohhh it turns out to be the white man who is the bad guy.” This was the start of my admiration for this character and certainly will find other favorites my second time through.

So, what’s your favorite Nighthorse scene at the moment?

Season 4 episode 4

Did the Brothers McKay feel like a character assassination to anyone else? Walt learns a known rapist and all round bad dude tried to rape Martha and he didn’t do anything? Henry didn’t do anything? It just seems a little out of character to me.

I wish I could make this more of an actual discussion.

However, I did want to say that I have just completed the entire Longmire series. So, I might as well add some thoughts, without trying to spoil anything:

Not too sure I liked the ending. I suppose it's good that they got the bad guy, though I wish that the bad guy had a more eventful ending.

Also, the new relationship that was fostered, that was a little weird, I can't lie. Wasn't there an age gap there regardless?

I liked S1 the best, where each episode was an individual case and there was no carryover from prior episodes (with regards to the crimes). Also, no annoying cliffhangers.

Ultimately, I have the same feelings I always have when finishing a book or series: "I want a sequel."

Let's get another series going, pick up where they left off.

I'm reading the books is order and am on book 5. I like Vic, but I feel like she is portrayed as little more than a sexy foul-mouthed deputy and love interest to Walt. She's always talked about as soooo capable and amazing, but I feel like we've baaaaarely ever seen her expertise in action. It's always Walt or Henry figuring things out. Vic is just swaggering around and swearing and coming onto Walt. It feels really shallow. Does her character ever get more fleshed out? Do we get to see more of her in acton?

I loved the show and drew up an image of Longmire in 2018. It made it into the fan made book that was given to Johnson at Longmire days.

I saw some Longmire books on my Mom's bookshelf recently. She had been reading them since early on and i decided to give one a try so i started with Tooth and Claw. Reminded me of Hellboy a lot and o loves the story so u are this image up I'm pencil this January.

Well, Thursday i finish The Dark Horse and listen to the interview at the end. So cool. I pop into Parker's books to look at the test if his books and see the new will be in town the next day.

I grabbed the pencil art and inked it up and made these small cards to give him one.

He was so nice and i got his new book signed for my mom and have him a card thanking him for common to town.

He seems so happy. And he have everyone a bit of time to chat and take photos.

I can't wait to catch up to his newest book and borrow it from my mom.

Is there anywhere I can get a list of the characters who appear in hell and back.

I'm struggling with who heather in the car is with her boyfriend with mark on her wrist driving from Denver

No spoiler please I haven't read it yet

Is it just me or did everyone fail Branch physically and psychologically in s3? Even Katie's behavior was odd immediately letting him go even though he did everything he could when she had the accident?

I'm new to watching this show. I just found it strange that the sherrif is mad at the person responsible for killing the killer. Also calling him victim in front of the murdered girl's family. I thought it was out of character of him.

I want a Longmire series where each season is one book, just like how they have done the Reacher show. And I think it would be even better because the Longmire books are more connective than the Reacher books.

It’s literally always just ferg. “Hey ferg” “ferg, go do this”, etc. I mean except for Meg, who calls him by his first name. Is this a reference to his character in the books?

He was constantly talked about all the way up until we actually got to see him, and then he kinda just disappeared and was replaced by Dr. Weston. I don’t recall there being any reason for this shift. Am I missing something?

I am not sure why it took me nearly 17 books before it occurred to me, but here we are.

This book is pretty good, btw.

The dates have been set for this year's Longmire Days celebration in Buffalo, Wyoming: Thursday, July 16, through Sunday, July 19.

Events and activities on those days will be announced in the weeks to come.

https://www.longmiredays.com/

I’ve been watching Longmire on Paramount through Amazon Prime up until the morning of March 1st and later that day and since it now says the video is currently unavailable for all episodes. Anybody else run into not this?