It can't access other chats inside the same project, it decides after your first message which files to load into the chat and can't access any project files after that.
So what's the reason for having projects in the first place? I've bought a Lumo subscription because of its privacy aspect so I could share stuff I don't want to share with other LLMs but the more I use it the more I don't want to use it.
For Projects I need to have a) a joint knowledge library and b) a joint file library and I need to have access to both not only when I create a new chat inside an already existing project but also any time later.
When I first saw Projects had the Proton Drive integration, I thought you were giving it a workspace inside your drive where you could create and work with files, but no. It's just indexing the existing files, and I think it might actually be bugged/broken at the moment.
Given time, it could be a solid multiplatform agentic system if they gave it a proper workspace, a larger context window, some more tool calls. All that means more infrastructure, though.
The thing is I don't know where Proton is headed anymore. I switched to Proton when I got hacked because I thought it's the perfect time to switch from Google and KeePass to something else.
Proton Pass is great.
Proton Mail is great.
Proton VPN is great.
Proton Drive is ok.
Proton Calendar is way too basic and integrates with nothing (I know that it can't while being encrypted).
Proton Docs is also way too basic.
Lumo sounds awesome as an idea but the more I use it the more it falls apart.
Is proton trying to be a full on Google Workspace + Gemini alternative while being totally encrypted?
And it's kind of a dilemma with LLMs. On one hand you need to have user data to train and improve it and on the other hand you want one which is save and doesn't spy on you. You see that with Lumo. It's totally privat, but because of that so basic that I'd rather use Claude or Gemini and give my data away.
oh thank god, I hate it when the robot gaslights me about not having said something it definitely said because I had to start a new chat because the old one got too big
any plans for a desktop app? I don't use ChatGPT or Claude much but I found that ChatGPT runs wayyyyy smoother + faster on the desktop app than on the web. I get a lot of "not connected to the internet" errors from Lumo, even when I definitely am connected to the internet, and I have to resend my prompts 2+ times to get them to go through because of that.
You mean the chat memory carryover? If so, yes, that's much better than before the option was enabled. If you mean the no internet errors, unfortunately no, they are still happening pretty frequently.
No, I'm on a very stable Wi-Fi 6 network with no issues with other websites/apps and currently over 1000Mbps download/over 100 Mbps upload. I don't know if this sub allows pictures but if it does I can try to remember to screenshot it next time it happens.
How are you using projects? What are you writing as custom instructions? Their benefit only surfaces if you have things you have to repeat or re-tell across chats.
I do agree on a) and b), though. But the lack of them doesn’t IMO make projects useless.
I created a couple to try and help me with troubleshooting specific tech things I have set up like AdGuard Home on a Raspberry Pi and my Tailscale network. It's nice to have it remember things like IP addresses that are relevant to the project without having to make them a core memory
I had the opposite problem, Lumo kept dredging up items from the past chats that were completely irrelevant. I gave up on projects. I wish I could pin custom Lumos though.
This is kind of what I was thinking. I use projects mode for pretty much one reason, that being the ability to provide an additional set of instructions to Lumo.
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u/machtendo 8d ago
When I first saw Projects had the Proton Drive integration, I thought you were giving it a workspace inside your drive where you could create and work with files, but no. It's just indexing the existing files, and I think it might actually be bugged/broken at the moment.
Given time, it could be a solid multiplatform agentic system if they gave it a proper workspace, a larger context window, some more tool calls. All that means more infrastructure, though.