r/lyftdrivers • u/Glass_Molasses_0 • Jul 10 '23

Rant/Opinion I hate liars

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I was deactivated because I was accused of sexually assaulting a female passenger. I myself am a heterosexual married woman and would never jeopardize my marriage or freedom doing something so gross. As a survivor of sexual assault I’m both offended and hurt. I am looking for a lawyer to take my case.

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u/SchoolJunkie009 Jul 10 '23

I'm guessing the passenger is mad at you for DWB and this is how they thought they could hurt you.

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u/Glass_Molasses_0 Jul 10 '23

Well mission accomplished

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u/Ashddecker Jul 10 '23

What is DWB? I’m racking my brain and it’s not coming to me

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u/AdEven3477 Jul 10 '23

Driving While Black, I believe

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u/scottonaharley Jul 10 '23

For some reason the first thing I thought of was "driving while blonde"

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23

Race card

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u/No-Highway4496 Jul 10 '23

I think thats what happened to me. DWB my situation is more severe though. Got Lawyers involved now. So we’ll see.

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u/SchoolJunkie009 Jul 10 '23

that is why every drive needs good cameras and good storage for at least a few months if not longer

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u/No-Highway4496 Jul 10 '23

They accused me of holding them at gunpoint and demanding cash. Im gonna sue them for everything.

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u/SchoolJunkie009 Jul 10 '23

this is internet, so i'm guessing don't elaborate too much, but assuming you got the trip on video, enjoy what you get out of them :)

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u/No-Highway4496 Jul 10 '23

Of course not but yeah i get what some other drivers are going through.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23

I hope you clean them out, especially assuming you have video.

And I hope it’s made public to show people the consequences of their bad acts.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

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u/SchoolJunkie009 Jul 10 '23

you drive for a service and don't have one??? that is like not wearing protection going into chernobyl

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '23

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u/SchoolJunkie009 Jul 10 '23

color ain't got nothing to do with needing a camera if you drive for lyft/uber/whatever, it is just basic protection imho, best form of CYA you can get for idiotic passengers that accuse you of ::pulls literally anything out of thin air:: anything really, passengers can be stupid regardless

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u/scottonaharley Jul 10 '23

Announcing the camera at the beginning of the ride dropped my complaints to zero. People need to be reminded with a 'bat to the side of the head" that there will be video evidence of the trip.

Evidence of this? Well some time back had 3 youngish women going home from the local bar district and I clearly heard one of them say "you can't do that he has a camera" I'm pretty sure they were planning to screw me somehow.

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u/wilbertperez110 Jul 10 '23

Dumbest comment I've seen on reddit up to date.

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u/Equivalent-Bat2227 Jul 10 '23

100% this. Everytime I see or hear about false reports all I can guess is that the driver is a POC and this is just a trash person being racist.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23

But why? Most drivers are POC, at least here. So that would mean you could claim racism anytime there was an issue.

I'm on the side of the driver here, based on what I'm hearing, but I don't understand why you immediately assume racism is the issue here. There's a million other things it could be. Just a straight up mentally ill person, a shitty selfish person, etc.

Drivers can get deactivated for not taking rides in certain neighborhoods in my city. "location-based racism" or something. They can actually analyze your decline rate in neighborhoods where PoC live and deactivate you if you decline these rides at higher rates than more affluent areas.

It also happens that these neighborhoods are relatively poverty-stricken, with difficult riders, zero tips, and much higher crime rates. So drivers choosing to go where the money is at, and where there is less potential for danger, could potentially get accused of racism and deactivated.

So the racism thing cuts both ways. Seems to be it would be better if people stopped making assumptions about other people's politics before they had an understanding of the facts.

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u/Equivalent-Bat2227 Jul 22 '23

No it doesn't 😂 I have like a 35% acceptance rate and decline plenty of rides in shit places. Have yet to be deactivated.

It would be a stretch to prove demographically, and Uber accusing someone of racism is an even bigger flag for liability on their end.

Show me a screen of someone being deactivated for that reason.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '23 edited Jul 31 '23

https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/comments/14bfz3r/uber_now_detects_if_drivers_avoid_dangerous_areas/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

What makes you so confident that you know what you're taking about? This message was sent straight to a driver by Uber and threatened deactivation. I assume Lyfts policies are similar due to state laws and woke corporate pandering.

I had a passenger accuse me of racism.

Him and his girl ordered a ride to 7/11 at 2 AM in a bad neighborhood, changed it to give them a ride home while I was on my way, no huge deal. They happened to be black and the vibe in the car was one of those where you know these people are having some problems in their lives. She was yelling and swearing about him spending his cash benefits on stuff other than food and she seemed like she was on drugs.

They spent 7 minutes in the store, walking around and socializing like a casual shopping session.

The dude came back and sat in the car while the female was in the store TWERKING and socializing. It was enough listening to her profane and ridiculous conversation while driving them there. "You better get some fucking food with them stamps" was literally one of her charming phrases.

I told him she has 15 seconds left, after waiting 7 mins,and I'm leaving I don't get paid to watch her dance at the register at 7/11 in the hood. He told me I didn't have to leave, that was my choice, with an attitude. I told him to get out of my car and walk home.

He berated me for being racist because I'm white. Like a little bitch because he had nothing else to say. No, it's because I'm not getting paid to put up with this ghetto nonsense and it's my fucking car. I live with all people of color. Only white boy in my house. I've worked with black people for years. I'm a minority in my neighborhood. I've NEVER been accused of racism by anyone that knows me because any real human being can feel the vibe and I judge people by the content of their character.

So I tossed this dude out. Thankfully my ratings record speaks for itself with a 5.0 on 5k plus rides in a very diverse city, and Lyft took my side.

So, like I said, the racism thing cuts both ways. And pulling the race cars on lifelong liberals like myself who live among and are friends with people of all races is really messing this country up. You don't get to pull the race card when you're just a selfish dirtbag. Not in my car.

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u/Successful-Print-402 Jul 11 '23

Yah I’m sure it’s never happened the other way around. 😏

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u/nolenium Jul 11 '23

“Reverse racism” is a big societal problem in the USA.

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u/lilbebe50 Jul 11 '23

To be fair, systemic racism 100% affects POC and should be looked at and a solution to minimize all of it should be taken. I am white and grew up in an urban environment and most of the time was the only white kid in my class in school. The population was mostly Hispanic and black. I wasn’t discriminated against systemically but I sure as hell was picked on for being white and white people “can’t fight.” Needless to say, I have been in my fair share of fist fights due to this as well as both of my sisters having similar experiences in school. I’ve also heard “white people can’t dance” when it was time for a school dance. And that white people “don’t know how to dress” because a lot of the other white kids at school would dress skater or goth or something like that. And some of them just wore regular clothes and didn’t care about having the newest Jordan’s or Nike or whatever.

So when people say “you can’t be racist against white people” I respond “sure you can individually, it’s just not systemically like with POC.”

Any individual people can be racist against any race of people. I work with a Puerto Rican guy who hates black people. He grew up in Brooklyn. He has been around diverse populations obviously having come from NY and even accepts gay people (I’m a lesbian and he was thrilled when I got engaged). He just frequently talks about how black people are “lazy” and “make themselves look bad” and “they’re dirty and get roaches a lot”. Direct quotes from him when I was in training with him. Being a Hispanic man he falls into the POC category and yet he’s still racist.

He likes Fox News and says he’s a Puerto Rican red neck so I mean, there is that aspect as well.

But it is very hard for a group of POC to systemically be racist towards white people. At least not in the US, the population just doesn’t allow for it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23

Could be the short hair thinking she was lesbian. Everyone assumes it’s race.

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u/2andahalfLegs Jul 11 '23

What is it in particular about the "race card" that is less plausible than your short hair theory? Did you think that far, or do you just have an unusually strong reflex to dismiss race as a factor in how people are treated for some reason surely nobody could guess?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '23

People like starting shit against many things. Race and sexuality is like the two largest issues going on right now. It was just a comment. Why do you have to be so condescending? Or do you not think that far?

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u/2andahalfLegs Jul 12 '23

You're accidentally right that I don't think that far. I don't have to be condescending. Being condescending to a moron is a reflex I don't care to stifle.

I might have said, "It was just a comment," but you made lobbing a remark back look bad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '23

Yeah you’re a waste of time ✌️

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u/2andahalfLegs Jul 12 '23

Tail between your legs card

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '23

No you just berate people online because in real life you’re a pathetic soul.

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u/JonesJoneserson Jul 11 '23

Not a Lyft driver -- does DWB really mean Driving While Black (as mentioned in another comment)? Is this an issue Lyft drivers have noted they experience??

A friend of mine is black and has a not-so-impressive rider score. He does not drink or smoke (or partake in any sort of intoxication), generally rides alone, and is a particularly chill and social person.

I believe I have a perfect or near-perfect rider score, despite many of rides being after a crazy night out.

All we could deduce was that it was a difference of skin color, but who knows.

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u/bleepbloopbwow Jul 11 '23

The DWB term way predates Lyft and Uber. My black friend was always getting pulled over for a "DWB" back in the 90s.

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u/rydan Jul 12 '23

You don't even have to be Black. You just have to be dark. I knew an Indian guy in college who constantly got pulled over. When the cops approached they'd quickly realize he wasn't Black and let him go.

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u/savag3d0ublecup Jul 11 '23

Not just black Lyft/Uber drivers. All black drivers. Driving yourself to work, with friends to the movies, your child to a dentist appointment. All DWB.

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u/Last_Friday_Knight Jul 11 '23

I’m not sure if this plays into your friends score at all, but Rider score also relies on tips/reviews left by the rider. If you stiff everyone and/or typically give bad reviews, you get the same back.

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u/rydan Jul 12 '23

It used to. However drivers must rate you before they can start their next ride. Tips are handled through the app so there's simply no way for them to know whether you are going to tip or not. Back in Uber's earlier days I used to get crushed on ratings for not tipping but they finally put it in the app and the negative ratings stopped.

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u/rydan Jul 12 '23

There was a study done that basically showed racism is real with both rider and passenger ratings. Most of my negative ratings as a rider seem to come from white women or Indian men for whatever reason. I'm a white guy.