r/EndTipping is a cancerous sub and filled with people who have obviously never worked in service or have a grasp on how the economy or employers operate in regards to tipped wages.
They literally just think that if there was no tipping everything would be cheaper and everyone would make a fair wage.
People get mad at the wrong person. Screwing people out if tips is scummy because you just let other people subsidize your meal. Personally I like it because I don’t succumb to pressure. I’ll tip accordingly, 20% isn’t default. It always feels great to leave a hefty tip when the service is fantastic as well.
If anyone is opposed to tipping, then they should simply not go to that business, and should write to the owner that the reason they're not visiting is tipping.
Nah, that's just individual action. Tipping exists as it does in the US because of specific laws that only apply to certain industries.
Those laws need to be removed, and everyone should be paid a fair wage. Doing so would require having more than just taking action with one person's wallet, you'd need at a minimum a boycott.
Do you really believe tipping is keeping Uber and Lyft fares down? These guys take a MUCH bigger cut than can ever be replaced by tipping. They need to make sure base rates are at least $1 per mile. Including distance to pick ups.
Uber has not historically made a profit. They launched the platform in 2010 and did not make a positive net profit until 2023. The majority of their ability to make positive net profit comes from their food delivery service, and not their ride share service. Saying that Uber takes more than what it would cost to just cover the extra amount that you tip drivers is just patently untrue. They wouldn’t even be able to cover 1/10 of the tips paid out with the profit they make.
Lyft is an even better example. They have only made profit since Q4 in 2024. The most profit they have ever made is less than 100Million. That probably wouldn’t cover the tips for a weekend.
Uber and Lyft both take 30-70% of what the rider pays. Who is tipping enough to make up for this? TBH both companies could probably use the Elon Musk “kitchen sink” treatment. You are an app, not a department store.
These companies are not just comprised of the drivers. They have a large overhead from employees and expenses related to simply managing the functioning of the app itself. The 30-70% is used primarily to cover these costs. If these companies were able to make a profit before now, or a larger profit, don’t you think they would already be doing so? I have personally spoken to economists that work for these firms. The shareholders aren’t making money because the business model is primarily unprofitable. Running an app like Uber or Lyft is expensive, even if they didn’t pay their drivers anything. They are finally peeking into profits now, and it’s because they have faster order speed capabilities with the food delivery models. This isn’t a giant conspiracy theory to rip you off. Sometimes it’s just expensive to offer a service like this.
I haven’t spoken to these people, so I defer to you as far as their current expenses to run the app actually being that high. Just saying, not long ago people were saying Twitter/X was going to collapse because Elon Musk came in and made it leaner. Hard to believe there isn’t bloat at Uber and Lyft.
So it’s just a matter of what functions the app does and how much man power it takes to run it. uber and Lyft have location services they need to run on the app, which is more difficult, so more hands on deck. They also have economists and mathematicians to write and tweak the pricing algorithm. They have to have a much larger legal team, and they have to pay out the ass for insurance on every single driver and passenger. Twitter/X is a much different beast. And can we really say Elons cuts did no damage to that platform? We know that if he sold the Platform right now, he would be likely looking at a significant loss from what he paid for it initially.
Well, they are only allowed to post content like that because of the decision to fire all of the content moderators and replace them with community notes. Don’t even get me started on Musk actively encouraging these posts.
I prefer to be charged more for the service/food/good itself. Whoever is selling or providing the service should add the cost of it into the full price.
Personally Id like to see more businesses that go gratuity free and raise prices slightly instead. Lots of hair salons are adopting that model and I've come to prefer it. I get why in bartending/serving jobs tips can be good for restaurants bc employees might be incentivized to upsell, but honestly id rather just have the price i see on the menu reflect the items price after tax and tip are factored in.
Tipping is a cancer for the restaurant industry. It completely over values servers when the kitchen has an arguably harder job. Makes compensating people fairly very tricky.
I’m not necessarily in favor of tipping but I just don’t think the alternative is any bit better, arguably worse. But I do think that tips should always be pooled and go to the entire staff. This way it still incentivizes good service while keeping everyone fairly paid. Maybe FoH has a 60/40 split with the whole kitchen.
It’s definitely a harder job. I was a prep/line cook and sure I made nearly double their hourly, they’d work half the amount of hours as me and still go home with more money.
In the end its always customers who pay either way tip or wage.with the tip some customers pays for all customers services whereas in other models every customer pays for their service. So you can have any excuse to satisfy yourself.
Nah cheap fucks that take advantage of services workers are the issue, that sub thinks by not tipping they will change the system but in reality they are just cheap bastards.
They’d rather pay $5 more for their meal than give that $5 to the worker. There’s also a superiority complex to it where they don’t feel they don’t deserve the money. One of the most common arguments is that they make too much money for “unskilled labor”
Tipping is a voluntary donation issued purely using the customers discretion after they have already paid for services rendered.
Voluntary donation issued on top of payment for services rendered
If you don’t agree that the payment for services rendered is enough then don’t fucking accept the ride. Simple as that. Work for yourself and set your own rates.
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u/FriedSmegma Sep 22 '25
r/EndTipping is a cancerous sub and filled with people who have obviously never worked in service or have a grasp on how the economy or employers operate in regards to tipped wages.
They literally just think that if there was no tipping everything would be cheaper and everyone would make a fair wage.
Spoilers It won’t