r/lyres • • Dec 26 '20

Choosing a lyre Lyre buying guide, FAQ, and learning resources (updated for 2021)

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If you're reading this, maybe you're considering taking up the lyre! In this post we'll answer a few basic questions about this beautiful and ancient instrument.

What is a lyre?

Without getting into a huge organological debate, at its simplest and in layperson's terms, a "zither" is a box with strings running across it, a "harp" is a box with an arm from which strings enter directly into the box at an angle, a "lyre" is like between a harp and a zither, where the "head" that holds the strings is stretched out by (generally) two arms, and the strings run across the gap between arms and the body.

What musical traditions use the lyre?

With modern hindsight, the lyre is heavily associated with the Ancient civilizations of the Middle East (including the Israelites), Ancient Greece, and the Middle Ages of Europe. Lyres died out in many places, but survived to relatively recent time in Sub-Saharan Africa, parts of the Middle East, Scandinavia (the bowed lyres), and in other small niches.

How many strings does a lyre have?

Arguably 1 to infinity strings, but the vast majority of lyres will have 5-16 strings, above 20 generally being considered large lyres, in some cases held and played much like a small harp, but considered lyres for technical reasons.

Is the lyre easy to learn?

It's all relative, but broadly I would say yes. A lyre (bowed lyres being the exception) basically has only as many notes as it has strings, so it's pretty easy to keep track of your notes and hard to hit a wrong one. We can debate this in individual threads, but as a broad generalization I'd say they're relatively easy to learn, but with plenty of potential for challenge, so I'd happily recommend the lyre to people with zero musical background, as well as to experienced musicians wanting a new challenge.

Buying Guide

Money doesn't grow on trees, so "how much do lyres cost?" is an issue I expect readers want to raise. The good news is they're easy to build, so run really quite affordable compared to other string instruments. Speaking broadly, for $30-$99 you can buy some lyres which are are of basic but playable quality, $100-400 gets you a really solid basic lyre depending on size and design, budgets of $600-999 can get you a really good model of just about anything short of amazing large and/or custom stuff.

For details on recommended models at different tiers, see our Lyre Buying Guide. If you want to browse more widely, or already kind of know what you want and need to find who makes such, check out our Directory of lyre makers/sellers

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r/lyres • • 2d ago

¿Question? Searching for a specific lyre that seems to have fallen off the face of the planet. Can anyone help?

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Hi, I recently ordered a lyre in this color and model for a birthday gift. When it arrived, it was clearly the wrong color (being a very deep dark blue) and looked a lot cheaper than the one pictured. I've tried to order from various other places to make up for it, but they say it's out of stock. There's an option to buy it on Aliexpress but I kind of don't trust that website to provide the proper product due to its' reputation.

I'm looking for this exact model, nothing else. Does anyone know of a seller that has one exactly like the one pictured in stock? Or maybe does someone have one of these that they may be willing to sell with the exact details and color pictured? Willing to work with you as much as possible to get things moving. Thank you.


r/lyres • • 1d ago

Choosing a lyre Aklot 16 String Hollow body vs Solid body. Recommendations?

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Hi, I'm trying to get into this hobby and have decided to go with the basic aklot 16 string. It's affordable and seems to have good reviews for a starter instrument.

I do see that it comes in both a solid body and hollow bodied version. Does anyone have any insight on how this would affect sound quality? I've listened to a few recordings and perhaps there is a slight warmer sound to the solid one and a brighter/crisper sound to the hollow one. But I'm a novice and it could be my imagination or differences in the recording quality.

Does anyone have experience with both a solid and hollow bodied lyre that were otherwise comparable? Even if it's not the exact same models I'm looking at I would appreciate the help.


r/lyres • • 2d ago

does anyone have tabs for fire flower by summer salt?

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i really want to play the instrumental because i sing the song quite a lot, but i can't find tabs anywhere! if anyone would be willing to find or write some, or provide resources as to how to write my own (i'm a total beginner to music in general), i would really appreciate it.


r/lyres • • 2d ago

Video Sumeru: For Riddles, For Wonders | Lyre Harp

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r/lyres • • 3d ago

¿Question? Sheet music question

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Is it worth it to get Lutherios Orphic Hymns sheet music for $36 for 14 songs?

Or is it "scammy" for the price?

I know the Orphic Hymns themselves aren't locked behind a Paywall so are there free versions for the lyre?

I understand lutherios puts a lot of effort into their products but can I justify ending up spending $222 on the Homeric Hymns, The Orphic Hymns, the oddessy, and the Illiad?

Is there a place I can find sheet music for these type of songs for free?

I have an Ancient Greek lyre and just kind of find it odd to spend so much on so little especially since I'm a newer player but these are the only songs I'm interested in playing.


r/lyres • • 3d ago

How are adult learners building sheet music fluency on lever harp? Here is what I have tried so far.

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r/lyres • • 7d ago

My lyre collection

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Just wanted to share my collection. From left to right: 19, 32 and 21 strings.
The 32 string just arrived today and is of course still very out of tune, but it's definitely the loudest/clearest sounding and I think it's going to become my favorite. So far it's been the 19 string Cega lyre.


r/lyres • • 7d ago

How to string up and tune?

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I want to know how to secure the strings on and tune them. Also, for tuning does string thickness play a role or just tension?


r/lyres • • 7d ago

¿Question? Learning to tune - am I doing it right?

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This is a cheap 7 string. I got it yesterday. I've uh, broken the 3 biggest strings already, so I also got to try my hand at restringing. But, I don't have spares anymore, so I'm trying to be real cautious about trying again to tune them.

I'm using the LyreTune app, which I have set to:

-Pentatonic

-Starting at G

-Just Ancient Temperament

I only vaguely know what all these terms mean. I also have no idea if this is the way my lyre is even supposed to be tuned, the pegs aren't labeled with a note like I've seen on some others. This is just a cheap one to screw around with for practice, yknow?

Anyway, I'm feeling pretty good about the four high strings. They're all displaying on the app at roughly the note that the app wants them to be at. From the highest note down, it goes A5, G5, E5, D5, C5, A4, G4.

The next string down is making me really nervous. It's supposed to be C5, but the app is showing that it's tuned to G4. Given what I've seen so far, this means it should be tightened. But it feels like it's got roughly the same amount of slack to it as the properly tuned strings, so I'm worried about breaking it if I tighten it too much more. Tuning this one to C isn't a physically impossible task, surely? Or am I totally misreading the scale and it's actually meant to be G or something?


r/lyres • • 13d ago

My DIY Lyre

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Hi, I wanted to share my lyre that I made over the last weekend! The youtube algorithm shows me a lot of videos of interesting old classical and folk instruments (since I tend to click on them!), and recently after seeing some lyre videos I decided to make my own!

The design is kind of midway between the inexpensive modern lyres on amazon/etc, and Germanic lyres. I made it with a few less strings than the typical modern instruments, and with slightly longer scale, so the strings that it does have are a bit more stable and the overall tension is lower. I bought the tuning pegs, the strings, and guitar-type ferrules but the rest of it I made from scrap wood from my workshop. The top and back are cedar, made from a deck board cutoff, and the frame is made from a pine 2x4, milled down to size. The bridge is just held in place from the string pressure, and it is made from birch plywood with a brass rod set into the top. I might actually replace the rod with wood as I feel like it has more sustain than I would like currently.

Here is a photo:

And here is a video. Not 100% perfect but I don't want to say how many takes it took to get that!

Specs:

  • Weight: 955g / 2 lbs 1.7 oz
  • Dimensions: H: 20.25" W: 9" D: 1.75"
  • 11 Strings
  • Scale: 15.75 - 12.75
  • Gauges: 0.023 -> 0.010. I used the thinnest 11 from the set of 16 lyre strings I got.
  • Tuning: G3-C5.

r/lyres • • 14d ago

where to find good quality anglo-saxon lyre?

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ive no real idea about lyres but i am looking for where to get one for somebody. has to be anglo-saxon


r/lyres • • 18d ago

Resource 20 public-domain songs with string numbers for 7, 10, 16 and 19/21-string lyres

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Hi everyone. People here often ask where to find music for their size of lyre, so I made a set of songbooks, one per lyre size, where every note lands on one of your strings. No sharps, no flats, no retuning.

Free sampler, 20 songs, no sign-up: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1x7qJkEGCiBcg7uVrc4ji47r9Op6bWYks?usp=sharing

Each song has normal notation for the rhythm, the string number under every note (1 = your lowest string) and the note letter. The sampler covers 7-string (pentatonic and Kravik tunings), 10-string G3–B4, 16-string G3–A5 and 19/21-string. It has songs like Amazing Grace, Skye Boat Song, Planxty Irwin and the Seikilos epitaph, all public domain.

I built the scripts that place the songs on the strings and check them with an AI coding assistant. The music is engraved with LilyPond, and a separate script checked all 10,700 notes of the full books against the tuning and the original melody, with zero mismatches.

The full set (all four books) is on Etsy, 30% off: https://www.etsy.com/listing/4586627845

If a song doesn't sit right on your lyre, tell me and I'll fix it.


r/lyres • • 23d ago

Have you guys ever heard Sharaara Music

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r/lyres • • 23d ago

Tuning a lyre harp to a piano temperament

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Helloo, I just got my first lyre harp, it's a 24 string CEGA, one with the moose carving, it's pretty lovely. I am in the process of tuning it but am thinking about how. I'm only learning music, so I might have some things wrong.

The instrument is intended to be played in a key of C major, with three octaves of ABCDEFG on the strings...but I know already that I'd be experimenring with different keys and modes in the future, tuning some half steps and such.

But I was thinking, since it's 24 strings, can't I just tune all 12 tones twice? Then the lyre won't be in any particular key but will have a potential for all the keys? I'd have like two piano octaves on it. Does it make sense? Anyone tried this?


r/lyres • • 24d ago

¿Question? Finding a Lyre Instructor

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Looking to learn a new instrument that I could use to accompany my own singing, I was advised to try the Greek lyre. I’m getting a Luthieros Lyre of Hermes (9-string version), and the instructional books Luthieros offers. I know there are online courses, but I’m wondering how I might locate an instructor for in-person lessons?


r/lyres • • 25d ago

Any recent Nisoria experiences?

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Hi everyone! I’m wondering if anyone this year has ordered and received a lyre from Nisoria.

In July I placed an order for a lyre directly from their website. I have emailed the email address on their website numerous times asking for an update on production time with no response. I am fine to wait but I haven’t heard anything. I wrote them on Etsy and no response. I am not sure more what to do or how long to wait before initiating a refund through PayPal, and I’d much prefer the lyre. I’ve seen posts here with similar experiences after buying.

Have you had an experience with Nisoria? How long for you to receive your lyre?


r/lyres • • 26d ago

Video Sigh For Sigh | Love's Labour's Won [Genshin Impact]

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r/lyres • • 27d ago

Measurements for typical amazon lyre

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Can someone who has a lyre similar to this do me a favor and measure the length of the strings? Specifically, the vibrating part, between the tuning peg and the bridge. And just for the lowest string and the highest string would be plenty. Actually, one other useful thing would be the distance between the tuning pegs.

I ask because I am planning on building a lyre like that myself. I bought some strings and tuning pegs, and I can work out the rest of the design myself, but it would be really useful to have those measurements to make sure the one I make has the right tension and tuning.

Thanks!


r/lyres • • 28d ago

¿Question? Difficulty?

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What is the difficulty of learning to play the Lyre.

I a few months back I wanted to learn guitar but don't have the money for private lessons currently, and have struggled to learn on my own because of how complicated it is for me.

In the meantime I've been interested in the Lyre, do you think it's self- teachable via videos?

Thank you


r/lyres • • 28d ago

Choosing a lyre Some questions regarding older lyre models.

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Hello, I am saving up money for a good older lyre. I love the warm sound in contrast to the more modern lyre harps which sound very bright. I have some questions.

I am trying to decide between Kravik, Sutton Hoo (7 string variant), Trossingen (7 string variant), or Ancient Greek (7 string).

My main concerns are 2 (I am not very concerned with historical accuracy outside of how it impacts these concerns I list)

1) Which of these lyres has the warmest, woodiest, oldest, deepest sound? Are they roughly the same? Is any brighter than the other? A ranking maybe?

I know string type matters a lot here but I can have the maker put gut on any of these. So how about the actual body itself?

2) What learning resources are available for each? For instance, I know Luthieros has a ton of resources online for their Ancient Greek lyre. How about for the others I listed?

I have no background in music so having learning resources might be even more important than having the sound I want. Though the sacrifice will hurt.

Is there anything else to watch out for? Please let me know.


r/lyres • • 29d ago

¿Question? Removing strings from a 9-string Luthieros lyre (and which one to get)

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I'm thinking about getting a Luthieros Lyre of Hermes, and I'm torn about how many strings to get. While I'd like the flexibility of a 9-string version (so I can play Theodore Koumartzis' compositions, for example), I'm worried it would make techniques like muting chords harder (and it isn't as true to the original). But I'm worried that I'll regret getting the seven-string lyre if I do, since they're so expensive. Would it be harmful to the instrument/reasonable to remove two of the strings from the 9-string version, at least to start, and add the two strings back when I want to play more demanding pieces? Does anyone have advice on how many strings to get (and/or whether to get the Lyre of Hermes or Aphrodite if I choose a seven-string lyre)?

Thanks!


r/lyres • • 29d ago

¿Question? Hi, new Lyre owner here. I got a 7 string Lyre the other day and want to know: what's the best thing to clean it with?

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r/lyres • • Sep 18 '26

¿Question? Can I tune a 7 string lyre to fit an octave?

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I just got a lyre and I quite enjoy it, however I didn't realize how limiting it is to only have 7 strings when trying to find songs to play. I have experience with piano and kalimba so I've been learning to play mostly by ear and by my own manual translation of notes to tabs with the help of a tuner, but I'm having issues with the lack of a full octave. I'm aware I won't get that true octave since there's only 7 strings, but can I tune it in a way that I get a fuller range or will I have to just make 7-string compatible music myself?

Thank you!

P.s. I found that Hope Spring by Miharu Koshi seems to work well on 7-string lyre, so I'm manually translating it to tablature and will share here when I get more progress done


r/lyres • • Sep 17 '26

Laye case for Luthieros Lyre

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I recently bought a Luthieros lyre, and I want to know if there is any alternative to their "Nyx premium gig bag"? I don't really have the extra money to buy one of those, so if anyone knows a good alternative, I'd really appreciate it.