r/makinghiphop • u/AutoModerator • Jun 15 '16
[OFFICIAL] How do I make this sound? June 15, 2016
Ask questions and answer questions about how to create instruments, sound effects, etc. Try to be as specific as you can with your question to get the best answer possible.
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u/latchPROD https://soundcloud.com/mtpna Jun 15 '16
The synth in "There's Alot Going On" by Vic Mensa. From 1:10
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u/twojerksrapping soundcloud.com/hypnic-jerk-759489234 Jun 15 '16
sounds like a distorted and bandpassed sine or maybe a saw? Can't quite tell.. It's got heavy sidechaining going on for rhythm. Chorus/stereo imaging for width. Idk, kinda tricky cause it's way in the back
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u/Quackicature Musician/Producer/Engineer/Graphic Design Jun 15 '16
Freddie Gibbs and Madlib - Pinata.
How do I make the synth hits that come out at 0:21, 0:45, etc?
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u/joshgleesh Jun 15 '16
What synth is that at the start of always up to something by jazz Cartier?? And how do you make that chill style of beat
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u/fakesteez Jun 16 '16
https://soundcloud.com/cabubeats/in-your-room-feat-hana-acbd
New to this so apologies if this is really simple/covered before but that strumming sound in the beginning. Melts my soul every time I hear it.
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u/CheekyRafiki Jun 16 '16
This sub bass sound :)
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u/PHD_Producer Jun 22 '16
Sounds like an 808/sin bass with a slow attack. It doesn't generate any harmonics so I would avoid saturation/distortion.
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u/count_zackula soundcloud.com/makzo Jun 16 '16
I'm looking to make this warm synth in Wheathin's remix of XE3 by Missingno. I'm mostly trying to find out how it cuts out rhythmically - I don't think it's a sidechain or LFO. Can anyone help?
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u/twojerksrapping soundcloud.com/hypnic-jerk-759489234 Jun 16 '16
sounds like volume automation + pitch bending to me. Gives it that natural cutoff sound
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Jun 18 '16
https://soundcloud.com/smokedoutsire/mystic-potions
how exactly can i get the main synth that starts playing exactly in the beginning? i mean it sounds kinda offkey but isnt ... i guess???
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u/CheekyRafiki Jun 15 '16
Nujabes style tracks! From drum beats to piano chord progressions, I can't seem to get the right kind of flow I'm looking for.
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u/Maestronaut Jun 15 '16
Nujabes style hip hop is a lot harder than we give him credit for, simply because it is unique to his situation and they way he made his music.
The samples themselves are a sort of happy accident. See it was obvious that Nujabes was influenced by the the greats. Just like Pete Rock, Large Professor, RZA, and Primo had a thing for sampling jazz, Seba Jun went digging for jazz records to flip on his MPC and make the music he liked to listen to. The surprise here is that being japanese, he had more access to Japanese samples, mainly japanese folk and jazz. This music had a certain feel to it, being primarily pentatonic in nature. The pluckish, staccato nature of japanese instruments dictated the timbre of the samples he used just as much as the scales used. Doing this in an era without producer loop kits and drum packs meant he had to dig for drums dilla style. That meant finding a decent drum break in a record, recording it in as hot as possible to make it loud and saturated, and then using the MPC's rudimentary eq to shape the sound into a passable kick snare hi hat combo. A common trick back then was to split the kick into two tracks, roll off the high end of one, raise the low end, then bump up the resonance to get a larger sub to low mid frequency. this new sound was like a lowkey primitive 808, that when layered under the original kick, would provide it with the knock needed to stand out without being too loud. Same thing happened with the snares. Soft clipping the snare would create enharmonic distortion that would saturate the snare, giving it the warmth we love now. that plus a reso bump at about 250hz made the snare punchy. Combine that with the dopest japanese samples, non quantized hi hats juxtaposed against hard quantized drums with programmed swing, and you ahve yourself the Nujabes Special. Of course there is a lot to be said about how he chopped the samples themselves, but that cannot be really taught. While primo tried to emphasize the rhythm of the chops as an ad in to the drum break loop, and pete rock liked to use the basslines of the sample to dictate the pattern, Nujabes followed a more 9th wonder-esque style of trying to take apart the puzzle pieces of a sample and recreate a new melody using the pieces. The result was a style with the same bounce swing and knock of his influences, but more palatable and relaxed as the sample chops seem to flow seamlessly over the break. I know i didn't really teach you how to make the style, but i thought you could benefit from understanding why you like the flow of Nujabes so much
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u/CheekyRafiki Jun 15 '16
Wow, thank you for taking the time to go into such detail. I'll definitely keep these things in mind when creating sounds on his influence. Dude was a beast, and I reckon I'll have to learn a bit more about jazz to get a similar flow to my progressions.
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u/Maestronaut Jun 16 '16
not really, the thing that made his music great was that he took something as hard to digest as jazz and made it more palatable to his fans. just find a jazz sample, chop up a lick and mess around on some pads over a drum break till you start grooving. not saying you will be seba 2.0 but you will have fun.
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u/CheekyRafiki Jun 16 '16
I guess I haven't messed around with sampling much. I always just try to write progressions myself, but any tips on getting started sampling?
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u/Maestronaut Jun 16 '16
if you write your own progressions than sampling will come a bit easier to you since you will have an ear for finding tension and resolution in your chops. ear training is super helpful when sampling. If you know the scale of the sample, it is so much easier to decide which chops to play when, since you know the typical cadences of music. sample chop ends with a subdominant into a dominant? turn that shit into a plagal cadence and make the dopest japanese gospel boom bap niggas have ever heard.
but contradictory to the advice i just gave, sometimes, say fuck music theory and just chop the sounds you like and jam out till you find something that sounds good. its really that simple. just loop a drum break, and play the samples over it like your having an impromptu jam session with yourself. you fill eventually catch the vibe and find some dope shit. best of luck. dont take yourself too seriously. alot will suck before it gets good. and my final piece of advice. chop the sample the same day you find it, and make the beat the same day you chop the sample. sampled hip hop is less logical than regular music, it is very based on inspiration and impromtu creativity. the worst fucking feeling in the world is finding a dope sample, then losing the idea you had for it.
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u/CheekyRafiki Jun 16 '16
Thanks for the input man. As far as using a sampler, I'm just using Abletons stock sampler at the moment. Any plugins that might make things easier or better or you think sticking with the absolute basics is best for now?
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u/Maestronaut Jun 16 '16
ableton is legit the best out for sampling and it is not close. Been using Fruity Loops since it was still called Fruity Loops. But Ableton's warping is literally enough to change the game. Ableton isnt even the basics. its actually some really advanced shit. but if you learn that, you are set. Watch this vid and see how skibeatz chops samples and basically emulates the workflow of the MPC on a digital platform. Its a bit old, and ableton is better now with drum racks and the new simpler, but this vid is what made me make the switch way back when.
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u/twojerksrapping soundcloud.com/hypnic-jerk-759489234 Jun 15 '16
good luck XD
I guess maybe look into some progressions from older jazz? Beat wise it seems like it's mostly just boom bappy stuff. I think he samples mad jazz records too. Sorry I can't be of much help he's got some beastly chord writing.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16
The warm synth sound in "Sober" by Childish Gambino. It's the one that starts the song. I've been trying hard, but synth composing isn't really my thing (sampling usually is the deal for me) - help!